When I lived in Nigeria in 1980-81, armed robbery was common. They had so many stolen cars that the police would often set up road blocks and check people's registration and drivers licences. Cars would be backed up for miles. While the police would check cars in front, armed robbers would rob the people stopped in traffic in the back of the line. My father was the victim of such an attack. As Big Daddy says, they were actually quite polite. They took his car. He wasn't upset about the car, however. He was on his way to play golf and he was really upset that they took his golf clubs!Big Daddy wrote:Armed robbers (popularly known as highway robbers) in Nigeria are quiet descent . They have this habit of jacking you, mostly at night, and giving you taxi fare to the nearest town. More of a tradition. Has happened to a couple of friends. When driving down on a lonely stretch, we do not even stop to help a breakdown car as this might be a trap. Has happened a lot of time to many people.
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Car jacking: What defence?
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“Never give in, never give in, never; never; never; never – in nothing, great or small, large or petty – never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense” — Winston Churchill, Oct 29, 1941
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Re: Car jacking: What defence?
This is what I recently got for anti HiJack !!
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Re: Car jacking: What defence?
install magnetic relish tear gas under the car, flame thrower from the exhaust, electrify the door handles. if possible mini gun in front and a missile luncher would come handy. tubless tires or track instated.
heck man just buy a tank
heck man just buy a tank
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Re: Car jacking: What defence?
My two cents:god forbid but if something like that happens,I'de use all seven bullets in my Arminius(reload and pump in another 7 if need be),and speed the hell away!!!!Nags by the way a tank won't be really helpful,the bad guys in my neck of the woods are armed even with RPS!!!Maybe an ICBM would come in handy
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Re: Car jacking: What defence?
the point is, in a cramped driving seat, with a wheel in front, how practical will it be to find a gun, point it sideways and shoot without aiming..........all the time with a guy holding a katta to your head.vrohan59 wrote:My two cents:god forbid but if something like that happens,I'de use all seven bullets in my Arminius(reload and pump in another 7 if need be),and speed the hell away!!!!Nags by the way a tank won't be really helpful,the bad guys in my neck of the woods are armed even with RPS!!!Maybe an ICBM would come in handy
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in any defence, proper planing and preparation prevents a dead body. this means one must think for all occison and situations. like wise make preparation for keeping the arms in right place with right thinking and acting is the major difference in staying alive.
when in cars etc. do not have the arms on your person as its hard to get to. have it nearby under cover but ready for instant use. always do the unexpected. (get on your knees and pray )
when in cars etc. do not have the arms on your person as its hard to get to. have it nearby under cover but ready for instant use. always do the unexpected. (get on your knees and pray )
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Re: Car jacking: What defence?
Shoot first. Shoot accurately, and shoot again more accurately.
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Following applies to right-handed people only, apologies to left-handed folks!
In US and other countries, you have left-hand drive cars, so a right handed driver, with the gun to his head, can shoot with his gun arm across his body, also will be easier to find a handgun kept say, somewhere near the hand (mechanical) brake / gear shift stick. In India / UK, where you have right-hand drive cars, it is very difficult to use right hand for such shots, unless you can shoot with your thumb . I tried to practice quick-draw with uncapped pepper spray (kept in the door magazine holder), found it very tough to flex the right arm rapidly enough to surprise the chap with the gun / knife to my head. Extremely good chances of getting pepper in my own face!
Can any gun owner in such a situation confirm how he would tackle this? Left-handed practice (well, in India, you won't get enough cartridges for normal practice!)? Thumb shooting (same comment)?
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In US and other countries, you have left-hand drive cars, so a right handed driver, with the gun to his head, can shoot with his gun arm across his body, also will be easier to find a handgun kept say, somewhere near the hand (mechanical) brake / gear shift stick. In India / UK, where you have right-hand drive cars, it is very difficult to use right hand for such shots, unless you can shoot with your thumb . I tried to practice quick-draw with uncapped pepper spray (kept in the door magazine holder), found it very tough to flex the right arm rapidly enough to surprise the chap with the gun / knife to my head. Extremely good chances of getting pepper in my own face!
Can any gun owner in such a situation confirm how he would tackle this? Left-handed practice (well, in India, you won't get enough cartridges for normal practice!)? Thumb shooting (same comment)?
Cheers!
EssDee
Cheers!
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Re: Car jacking: What defence?
Dear fantumfan2003,
I would have started crying for sure, man you must be made of steel. Pls narrate the full story with all details it would be interesting and surely helps others, how did uyou guys react and things like that.
reg,
drifter.
I would have started crying for sure, man you must be made of steel. Pls narrate the full story with all details it would be interesting and surely helps others, how did uyou guys react and things like that.
reg,
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Re: Car jacking: What defence?
have been thinking of the situation,i feel right hand driven right hander doesnot have much option.unless he is strong enough to push the door along with the assailant and maybe a quickdraw or might have to practice using the gun with left hand.or if your co-driver is smart enough to handle a gun would help.seems no other choice???essdee1972 wrote:Following applies to right-handed people only, apologies to left-handed folks!
In US and other countries, you have left-hand drive cars, so a right handed driver, with the gun to his head, can shoot with his gun arm across his body, also will be easier to find a handgun kept say, somewhere near the hand (mechanical) brake / gear shift stick. In India / UK, where you have right-hand drive cars, it is very difficult to use right hand for such shots, unless you can shoot with your thumb . I tried to practice quick-draw with uncapped pepper spray (kept in the door magazine holder), found it very tough to flex the right arm rapidly enough to surprise the chap with the gun / knife to my head. Extremely good chances of getting pepper in my own face!
Can any gun owner in such a situation confirm how he would tackle this? Left-handed practice (well, in India, you won't get enough cartridges for normal practice!)? Thumb shooting (same comment)?
Cheers!
EssDee
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Re: Car jacking: What defence?
if your co-driver is smart enough to handle a gun would help.
Doctor, that would require the co driver to shoot across the driver's body, I for one might trust the tender mercies of the daku than the skill of the person next to me . More seriously, I find myself fumbling and getting caught with even a small pepper can, which fits snugly in the hand; so with a gun, with barrel sticking out, it's going to be much more difficult. Unless you have a gun you can shoot through the door, hitting the perp in the leg or somewhere. Rather tough with an IOF .32, i believe?
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yes i agree.may be a 9mm can go through?essdee1972 wrote:if your co-driver is smart enough to handle a gun would help.
Doctor, that would require the co driver to shoot across the driver's body, I for one might trust the tender mercies of the daku than the skill of the person next to me . More seriously, I find myself fumbling and getting caught with even a small pepper can, which fits snugly in the hand; so with a gun, with barrel sticking out, it's going to be much more difficult. Unless you have a gun you can shoot through the door, hitting the perp in the leg or somewhere. Rather tough with an IOF .32, i believe?
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Re: Car jacking: What defence?
No idea! Anyway, for us poor Indians, reaching for the sky and giving up the car seems to be the best idea! Of course, if the guy leaves you unharmed, you can always try to jump him as he is getting into the car...may be a 9mm can go through?
Or hit the gas, and hope his shot will go wild...
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Re: Car jacking: What defence?
if he is close, grab his hand (in case door/window open) pull down as much as you can and drive. you cant run with your hands down , ain't you.
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Re: Car jacking: What defence?
Dear Subal,Subal das wrote:if he is close, grab his hand (in case door/window open) pull down as much as you can and drive. you cant run with your hands down , ain't you.
What if someone like say, the wife is sitting in the passenger's seat ? Pulling down the assailant's hand and driving on is surely an invitation to fire at least one shot off ? Hmmm, that is if the shot does not take the driver's on-the-gear left hand/ wrist off first. What say ?
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