Car jacking: What defence?

[miss_3006]

There is no one fixed answer as this is a situation which needs to be dealt then and there. In quite a few cases the car jackers are all new timers or some of them are. If you are not confident about handling your weapon (handgun, pepper spray, stick, knife), better hand over the keys clamly as any action on your part can make the goons fidgety and they may fire their weapon in nervousness. Make them feel comfortable and back out slowly from the car to give them space.

Methods like anti-hijack and GPS are dirt cheap now and come for 2K INR so do get them installed.

[Rajat]

There is no one fixed answer as this is a situation which needs to be dealt then and there. In quite a few cases the car jackers are all new timers or some of them are. If you are not confident about handling your weapon (handgun, pepper spray, stick, knife), better hand over the keys clamly as any action on your part can make the goons fidgety and they may fire their weapon in nervousness. Make them feel comfortable and back out slowly from the car to give them space.

Methods like anti-hijack and GPS are dirt cheap now and come for 2K INR so do get them installed.

I mostly agree with the above.

Basically if you have a gun / weapon and know how to defend yourself and the situation allows it then you know what to do. If not, do not forget that your car itself offers you protection and can be used as a weapon.

However no amount of advice will be useful here. It all depends on the individual and the situation.

[hunterjack]

mostly agree with the post here. the are anti theft systems available in the market which you can in your your car.
these system help you track down your vehicle also there are systems available were you can remotely disable the engine(autocop or piranha security systems are a few which i have heard of).
but safety comes first. better to lose a car than a life.

[Subal das]

sky is the limit one can learn, but any attempt to resist require training. in normal live there no such opportunity to train any of such technique, for example most driving tricks which you need to escape in normal live would be considered totally crazy thing to do. what a hell for some one will train for such thing, like come to U turn of speed and turn without stopping. such thing simply impossible to do without training and that can be very useful thing in case of pursuit .

another simple thing any one can do called accident simulator or evasive maneuver.

here how it look



if somebody drive in normal live like that from one lane to another, that is suicidal but in case of hijack that can save your live. that is most useful evasive maneuver, find empty road and try to go through such patter on different speed.

picture from book Police and Pursuit driving.

[Devrishi]

There is no one fixed answer as this is a situation which needs to be dealt then and there. In quite a few cases the car jackers are all new timers or some of them are. If you are not confident about handling your weapon (handgun, pepper spray, stick, knife), better hand over the keys clamly as any action on your part can make the goons fidgety and they may fire their weapon in nervousness. Make them feel comfortable and back out slowly from the car to give them space.

Methods like anti-hijack and GPS are dirt cheap now and come for 2K INR so do get them installed.

100%. They are physically & mentally prepared in every way with weapons in hand, which in all probability are Guns. One wrong / suspicious / quick move on our part and the head is blown right away. I say, even if you have a loaded handgun, make a move only if the timing is correct else surrender the keys, hands up, and move out right away - slowly. You should feel lucky, with a feeling of gratitude , if he leaves you - on spot - alive.

[Subal das]

few more tips

-some one approached you and ask something, NEVER roll down you window and talk without opening door. If you have your door locked and windows security film installed you are safe to talk. Buy auto lock system so you never forget to lock doors. Thing is that in 8 cases from 10 when very suspiciously looking man approach and ask something people will roll the window down, carjacker can open lock and pull you out. Some people may feel offended, so let them be offended, your live is more important.

- On petrol pump (especially at dark time of the day) never open door and roll window down very minimally just to pass money.

- If slightly bumped from behind never stop car and never go out of car to see what damage is. Once you leave car, another gang member will jump into your car and drive away.

- When packing car near shop (especially at dark) before leaving a car take a very good look around, or you can step out and here they are.

- When coming back check that no body suspicious near the car, and ALWAYS check rear sit of your car. To get inside of most cars in India much more easy then drive it away, so they can wait for you inside.

- When driving if possible always watch position on next traffic light if visible. What reason to rush and become a victim, better drive slow and approach traffic light when green light about to get on.

- If you see some one on road and it look like accident happen, like bike in side and man near by, especially at night, NEVER stop. Drive away and call police later.

- Do not stop your can close to the car in front and leave some room to escape. Also Indian scenario that space in most cases fill be filled by bikers. But still in a lot cases it will stay free.

- If possible do not drive at night

- Do not park your car near objects that may limit your vision, like track or big van. Such object best place for assailant to wait for you.

[timmy]

I can add a couple of things to this from a long ago life in a nasty urban area:

Stay on streets that are two lanes in each direction. Never drive in the outer lane -- stay in the inner lane. The inner lane means that several cars can box one in. By staying in the inner lane, one might have an avenue escape by pulling into the opposite lanes.

This is perhaps for older cars, but never let pedestrians walk in front of the car and start opening the hood. If this is attempted, it's time to step on the throttle.

In many inner cities, there is never any reason to think that cross street traffic will stop on a red light.

[fantumfan2003]

Or maybe not.

It will incapacitate only one or two carkackers immediately on the sides. What if there are multiple guys (away from this device ?) as it happened with us. Probably scare them for a few seconds but then they will just spray you or your car with gunfire. Had also heard that carjackers in SA were more innovative and aggressive. They used sharpened sparkplug ends to strike on and break rolled up glass windows on cars. That makes you vulnerable.

M.

Carjacking is a big thing in South Africa. Here is a device, apparently available there, which will set a potential carjacker hotfooting it ways from the scene (literally).
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[Subal das]

in case of armed ambush most important to protect back seats of your car, half inch aluminum plates on back of each sit, can protect from .32 and cheap compare to special products.
aluminum plates bolted with fiberglass even much better.

if you see car blocking the way, just drive on reverse and make J turn, just in few secs and you will be driving in opposite direction, most useful evasive maneuver. till they get out of car and be ready to shot, you will be increasing distance from shooters and driving to safety.

another thing is that people considers as safe mostly Jeeps like Scorpio, Ford Edevoure, from point of evasive driving it is less suitable cars. It is impossible to make J turn on Scorpio or TATA Safary/Sumo, Toyota Qualice/ Innova,

J turn when you drive on reverse about 25 km/h and then fast moving steering wheel counter clock wise, then car will turn in opposite direction without stopping and retain some moving momentum.

-- Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:31 pm --

I think from technical point of view most suitable can in India is Audi A4 Quattro 3.2. Full wheel drive and powerful engine, but costly and flashy, attract some much attention, just for that last reason bad choice already.

Skoda Laura RS looks great with 200bhp, but also quite flashy car. Kizashi with 185 bhp looks good too.

in smaller cars maybe Fiat Bravo with 150bhp for such size, not so bad, should be able to go over 200km/h

[indiaone]

Great idea indeed. How about having a straight confrontation with a IOF .32 in one hand or a colt hammerless 1903 or its Kolkata version. Shri Das may like to give the idea some thought, as very few car hijakers at present may have given a thought as what they will do in such a situation .

[Subal das]

Great idea indeed. How about having a straight confrontation with a IOF .32 in one hand or a colt hammerless 1903 or its Kolkata version. Shri Das may like to give the idea some thought, as very few car hijakers at present may have given a thought as what they will do in such a situation .

you are under estimating Indian carjackers Sir, they will never take on some one like me ... they can read people very well. why take a risk, when there is a lot of soft targets for them.

personally, I would do everything possible to avoid straight confrontation. I cant say much about confrontation with guns, as I do not carry one. and believe me I have a lot of practical experience driving in India everywhere, mostly alone and at night. Driving at night may need some experience and skills, but it is fastest methods to get from point A to point B. Because at day time roads are full of trucks, buses, autos, bikes, cows, buffalo, goats ect Best time would be night from Sunday to Monday, much less trucks on roads, compare to any other days of a week.

my previous messages maybe written in authoritarian way, well sorry ... just cant see any other way how to do that.

[Subal das]

just found interesting facts about India's law situation, that may prove that confrontation with criminals is not in interest of common citizens, it is lose lose situation, because criminals almost always get dry out of water. or till he got stolen some politician's car.

India’s criminal courts acquitted over a million defendants in 1999, more than the next 48 surveyed countries combined.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_a ... -acquitted

so better drive maruti alto, and be ready to donate it to any one who ask.

[Subal das]

Rahul's Gandhi car was recently stopped in UP by agree mobs - TV source.

Not for first time and with success as before.

not only police is under trained, but driver of top congress figure do not have anidea about SOP in such situation. First their car, bullet prove Safari, (made by one company in Delhi) - absolutely unsuitable car for evasive driving.

Second, how that happens that Safari drove faster then following security car Ambassador and the moment when Safary was approaching road block there was no security car in vicinity . Then driver drove car into crowd and it stop completely. that is totally unacceptable situation as bullet prove car is only last for 30-60 seconds, it bullet prove to provide possibility to escape.

How that should be handled : principal car should never speed away from security car.

once such road block detected, principal car slowing down, security car should give signal, then overtake principal car and then both cars moving on reverse and synchronously performing J turn and getting away. Then, call police to clean road and drive.

I suggest, Rahul should seriously reconsider his driving routine and hire some professionals to train his drivers and develop adopted for India proceedings.

[Big Daddy]

Armed robbers (popularly known as highway robbers) in Nigeria are quiet descent . They have this habit of jacking you, mostly at night, and giving you taxi fare to the nearest town. More of a tradition. Has happened to a couple of friends. When driving down on a lonely stretch, we do not even stop to help a breakdown car as this might be a trap. Has happened a lot of time to many people.

One thing though, if you have stopped say at a red light and you see some one suspicious approaching, start hooting your horn endlessly. This might irritate others but might discourage the robber as most probably some one is looking in your direction.

BD

[Subal das]

be prepared, expect and know what to do and in 99% case you get out unharmed. J turn is most useful thing to learn, it will take your adversary a lot of time to make U turn, till that time you can get far away from them, in case of pursuit throw on road some thing like Road Stars Tire Puncturing devices.

http://www.dealsonlywebstore.com/road-s ... -4-c4.html

Many more option available: get your type filled with drive flat foam, install smoke generator. for those who drive in urban areas at night at least to learn J turn and road spikes are minimum.