My latest aguisition modern o/u

[shooter]

Rifled barrels in shotguns throw the shot in a ring shaped pattern, with little of the shot in the center of the pattern.

Live and learn.

thanks

[indigo_indo]

I COULD NOT SHOOT A PIGEON WITH MY GUN AFTER FIRING MORE THAN 24 SHOTS.


I discussed the problem with Mr. Yograjsinghji ( mr katana ) and according to his good self i need to do following modification sin my gun. they are as under.

1. The safety and the trigger of the gun are very hard . instead of a squeezed trigger of a rifle the trigger of the shot gun could and should be slapped immediately . S i have to get it reworked with a proper gunsmith. Mr Katana recommended mr boby siddhu of patiala for the work.

2. The barrel of the gun i bought is 24 " and i should have bought a 26 " or 28 " barrel for lesser recoil

3. The gun should be fitted with a proper recoil pad , he has recommended a pad made in usa.

4. the gun should be frequently operated without bullets and all the moving parts should be applied test running every third day .

5. rust should not be allowed to gather at any cost.

I plan to make a visit to mr boby in this week and get my gun reworked.

My hearty thanks to mr Singh.

rohit gupta

[denzilmatthew]

Hi,

I am also going to buy an Modern O/U in couple of days, but could not make up my mind as the gun which I saw is very hard in opening the barrel and closing it, also the lock lever which is there on he top which help to open the barrel part does not come in the line of the safety after closing the barrel. Some told me that after firing some shots say 5 to 10 the gun will work smoothly (is it true) even the shop owner also told me the same but some shop owner told me that it is not true.

Please help me out in this......?

Regards,

[Katana]

Indigo_indo,

Point No. 4: I did not mean you to dry fire the gun on a regular basis. If you do so, you will harm the springs, pins and the mechanicals inside. Believe me a shotgun has some minute parts in its innards that you will find difficult and cumbersome to repair. I also suggest you get yourself a pair of snap caps or dummy cartridges to keep in your gun whenever you open it during storage. I believe gsmith sells them, although they call them 'convectors', whatever that means.

What I meant is that one must be thoroughly familiar with any firearm that one owns in all respects, whether is is firearm and range safety, the mechanical aspect, your shooting requirements vis-a-vis the capability of the firearm in question. Treat it like your lady love and enjoy it responsibly.

About the Modern there is no point in flogging an old horse. Just about all of us know what it behaves like. The idea is to work around the gun to make it shooter friendly and likeable, which if given to the right person to do, could be a sweet shooter.

[TwoRivers]

Shorter barrels do not increase recoil. That depends solely on gun weight and the load being fired. Shorter barrels will increase muzzle blast, and bring the blast closer to your ears, increasing "perceived recoil". As will stock design.

On a new shotgun the top lever should not come into line when the gun is closed. It has been fitted that way so that it can wear in. Eventually, with prolonged use, it will line up, and then go beyond, at which time it is likely time for repair.

[The Doc]

I COULD NOT SHOOT A PIGEON WITH MY GUN AFTER FIRING MORE THAN 24 SHOTS.

How many more than 24 ? . There was no need actually .

Without stepping on your toes , how come are we conveniently presuming that the fault lies with the gun and not with the shooting technique of the novice shooter ? Presuming that your gun is factory fresh , you need to break it in at the range at the same time improving your technique/stance/trigger squeeze etc. If I were you , I would spend more time at the range under suitable guidance rather than taking it to a gunsmith as early as this because even after tuning up the firearm the way you have mentioned, the performance is not going to change dramatically. Also I would urge you to think on the same lines regarding your new IOF revolver.

best,
Rp.

[indigo_indo]

Hi,

I am also going to buy an Modern O/U in couple of days, but could not make up my mind as the gun which I saw is very hard in opening the barrel and closing it, also the lock lever which is there on he top which help to open the barrel part does not come in the line of the safety after closing the barrel. Some told me that after firing some shots say 5 to 10 the gun will work smoothly (is it true) even the shop owner also told me the same but some shop owner told me that it is not true.

Please help me out in this......?

Regards,

i have fired more than 24 shots and still the lock lever is there " thedha " than safety lock , i see no harm in it may be in more use after three forur months it may get in line or " theda in other direction ... but over all the gun is good value for money , the opeing and closing is not so tight , i think now am used to it... and there is no play or loose fitting so it is best for me i think... all the disadvantage it hink in modern o/u is absense of selective ejector and extractors... and nothing else.

rohit

-- Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:12 pm --

Indigo_indo,

Point No. 4: I did not mean you to dry fire the gun on a regular basis. If you do so, you will harm the springs, pins and the mechanicals inside. Believe me a shotgun has some minute parts in its innards that you will find difficult and cumbersome to repair. I also suggest you get yourself a pair of snap caps or dummy cartridges to keep in your gun whenever you open it during storage. I believe gsmith sells them, although they call them 'convectors', whatever that means.

What I meant is that one must be thoroughly familiar with any firearm that one owns in all respects, whether is is firearm and range safety, the mechanical aspect, your shooting requirements vis-a-vis the capability of the firearm in question. Treat it like your lady love and enjoy it responsibly.

About the Modern there is no point in flogging an old horse. Just about all of us know what it behaves like. The idea is to work around the gun to make it shooter friendly and likeable, which if given to the right person to do, could be a sweet shooter.

i think you are right sir , getting familiar with gun is more important , " haathh pe chadhne main bhi waqt lagta hai " . ok i will look out for dummy cartiges or convectors but in ferozpur no one sells them , or even know about such things...

i totally agree that a right person can make a bad gun produce results, lets hope for the best...

regards..

-- Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:23 pm --

I COULD NOT SHOOT A PIGEON WITH MY GUN AFTER FIRING MORE THAN 24 SHOTS.

How many more than 24 ? . There was no need actually .

Without stepping on your toes , how come are we conveniently presuming that the fault lies with the gun and not with the shooting technique of the novice shooter ? Presuming that your gun is factory fresh , you need to break it in at the range at the same time improving your technique/stance/trigger squeeze etc. If I were you , I would spend more time at the range under suitable guidance rather than taking it to a gunsmith as early as this because even after tuning up the firearm the way you have mentioned, the performance is not going to change dramatically. Also I would urge you to think on the same lines regarding your new IOF revolver.

best,
Rp.

I was thinking the same that " anaari " ka khelna khel ka satyanash " and bad name to a gun... , i am making a shooting range at my own place under advice from a army friend and start shooting practice on stationary targets, get familiar about the behavior of the gun and pattern of my sight and actual hit . then only i should go to a gunsmith and not before.

mr katana has also advised me not to go for mazor change in iof revolver as the guns we elite people use to conceal carry and not to show off in public and a glossy chrome plated gun will catch fancy very soon rather than dull black gun... ...

let it come in first week of march and after field practice and getting familiar with gun only i will decide after advice from expert and not before that am gonna do any modification in brand new gun....

regards mr doc.

[indigo_indo]

Good news : made convectors or retainers or dummy cartridges by own ...

i made out convectors for dry firing the shot gun and used a tight spring inside a hollow brass cartridge type profile and it dry fires extremely well , the force to press the pin on the dummy cartridge is more than 1.5 kg per sq inch ( adjustable ) and i think it is more than enough . this way i can dry fire and still not dmage delicate parts of the shotgun and i do it more than 4 or five times the alternate day and the working of the gun has smoothed to a much extend . I have also ordered for a ventilated recoil pad and a cheek pad from gunaccessory.com and may get in a day or two . one of my friend and after the recoil pad installed the gun is much easy to handle.

[Katana]

indigo,

I suppose you may have received and fitted your recoil pad from gunaccessory.com. Any chance of us getting to see it? Do post some pics of the snap caps and the recoil pad.

[indigo_indo]

yes sir , i have received the pad but it is slightly wider than the gun butt , nearly 5 mm bigger . i have ordered for a very fine rubber sander flap wheel which will rub away the excess rubber without damaging the profile , the problem is that i may need to repolish the stock and i am not fnding any suitable method to fix the cheek pad , whether i should fix it up with screws or should paste it up with sum rubber solution. please any of the senior member let me know how to do it.

regards

Rohit gupta

[Katana]

indigo,

When you gave me the measurements on the butt profile, I had some reservations. In fact, they were about 5mm short on both planes, considering the smallest size pad measurements. The best option is to grind the pad pad itself than to fool around with the butt. As concerns the cheek pad can you post pics? Maybe I can help you out with some idea? Is is leather or vinyl? Repolish the stock only after you have tried to fit everything first. Try Birchwood Casey's Tru Oil kit. I have just got one for my IOF .30-06 stock project.

Also look up the IHP National air gun thread were I have posted some pics of my done up air rifle recently. Have added a white line spacer for visual appeal.

[indigo_indo]

dear sir

am ready with the pics of the stock with newly fixed cheek pad and a ventilated recoil pad , i have grinded the pad with electric sander and it perfectly fits to the profile of the gun and still i have to taste the result . i will do it in the morning. In no case the stock or the butt was to be tampered . but do not know how to post the pic in the reply . give me your email id so that i can post the pic and you can post it in the thread on my behalf . regards

[highlander9999]

who makes u/o in india if they are good and maker can be approached acustom make can be had iam sure of that please inform me about the maker iwant to buy one by the way what is the price pl let it be known on the forum a12 bore is the best option in home defence . i own a side by side walter locke of english make very reasonable wieght to carry here is difference of england make . pl inform of o/u regards highlander9999

[shooter]

dear indigo, one of the most visited threads here is the "how to post pics" thread. Read it and learn.
You have done quite a bit of DIY on your gun. Im sure you will learn how to post pics in to time.

[Katana]

highlander,

Modern, khairuddin and rex, all make o/u shotguns. Check the shotgunning threads and all your queries will be sorted out.