IOF .32 revolver

winnie_the_pooh · Post by **winnie_the_pooh** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:16 pm

indiaone wrote:Dear Mr Winne,
The information given by you is based on totally incorrect facts. All the major components of the revolver and the pistol are
manufactured in different Ordinance Factories and the final assembly is made in SAF Kanpur. This does not include the cleaning kit,box etc. Please do not circulate information based on your assumptions. I do understand you may be unhappy with the lack of finish and sophestication of the product as well as its lack of snob value. However, before running down the institution of the IOF get your facts correct.
Given the prevailing security situation in the country, it is a fact that getting firearms licence is not and easy job, but one has to live with it.

Actually, you seem to be the one misinformed.These fellows advertise from time to time calling for tenders for making gun parts.

To preclude another ill tempered reply from you I am attaching this link.

http://tenders.gov.in/innerpage.asp?cho ... 020&work=1

Click on the Tech Document link and you will find that they only rifle the barrel,the rest is all made outside the factory by private manufacturers.And like I said,the bid going to the lowest bidder.

The Doc · Post by **The Doc** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:41 am

winnie_the_pooh wrote:http://tenders.gov.in/innerpage.asp?cho ... 020&work=1
Click on the Tech Document link and you will find that they only rifle the barrel,the rest is all made outside the factory by private manufacturers.And like I said,the bid going to the lowest bidder.

This came as a revelation to me . Thanks Winnie.

So I presume they do the same with the Ashani too ?

best,
Rp.

indiaone · Post by **indiaone** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:48 pm

The actual working of the Ordinance factories and the context in which the tender under ref was issued are matters which are highly sensative in nature.I am not in a position to get into public debate or give more information on the subject. Therefore, I accept your statement in its totality.Please accept my apologies for any illfeeling that my earlier response may have caused to you.

indigo_indo · Post by **indigo_indo** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:58 pm

Well outsoursing has been key feature for success of corporate world . If the delivery period of the revolver can get down from six to two months , claim the laurel to be given to the outsorcing . The invitation of tenders did not mean that all the plaves we have assholes like kalmadis and a rajas who just are worried abt filling their pockets and nothing else. hanky panky in govt affairs is always there but the govt officers have more chances of getting caught and landing in jail , they are not so lucky as kalmadies and rajas as there are no snia gadhies behind them...

Private players have more effeicient infrastructutre than govt players and their specialization can also not be ruled out. yes price factor and low biding is issue but i dn think a pvt person will jeopardize his production to produce less than permissible quality despite of kickbacks he may be giving to foolish fellas.

outsourcing is double edged sword and let us not be pessimistic and still there may be nation loving people in the band of so cll suppliers ofr pvt players who supply goods or parts to iof.....

winnie_the_pooh · Post by **winnie_the_pooh** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:13 pm

indiaone wrote:The actual working of the Ordinance factories and the context in which the tender under ref was issued are matters which are highly sensative in nature.I am not in a position to get into public debate or give more information on the subject.

A tender is a public document.What is so cloak and dagger about it?

Indigo_indo,

Very noble thoughts but not borne out by actual happenings.

Post by **cottage cheese** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:59 pm

winnie_the_pooh wrote: A tender is a public document.What is so cloak and dagger about it?

...Ah.. its sensitive because digging into it will open a can of worms...a huge one at that.

Regards,
cc

winnie_the_pooh · Post by **winnie_the_pooh** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:51 pm

cottage cheese wrote:
winnie_the_pooh wrote: A tender is a public document.What is so cloak and dagger about it?
...Ah.. its sensitive because digging into it will open a can of worms...a huge one at that.

Regards,
cc

You mean like the one that got the former DG of OFB sent to the slammer

grewal · Post by **grewal** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:57 pm

http://tenders.gov.in/viewtenddoc.asp?t ... no=1&td=TE From the tender detail we can see the actual cost of spares which are used to assemble/manufacture the revolver. One fact which i came to know is that the barrel is made of steel named BS 970.

winnie_the_pooh · Post by **winnie_the_pooh** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:37 pm

grewal wrote:http://tenders.gov.in/viewtenddoc.asp?t ... no=1&td=TE From the tender detail we can see the actual cost of spares which are used to assemble/manufacture the revolver. One fact which i came to know is that the barrel is made of steel named BS 970.

That is the earnest money and not the actual bid amount.

jaspreet · Post by **jaspreet** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:58 am

Respected seniors,
I have received date of delivery for the revolver from Fields gun factory. Just wanted some clarifications. As that letter states that I need a traveling license as my license is just for Haryana.
How long is that traveling license valid, as I am planning to stay overnight at Delhi while coming back from Kanpur. So will that traveling license be valid if I stay there with my arm and come to my home town next day?

Regards,
Jaspreet

grewal · Post by **grewal** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:02 am

jaspreet wrote:How long is that traveling license valid, as I am planning to stay overnight at Delhi while coming back from Kanpur. So will that traveling license be valid if I stay there with my arm and come to my home town next day?

As far as I remember The TL issued by kanpur is valid for 15 days . And you will have ample time to spend in the journey back home.

rohan262 · Post by **rohan262** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:45 pm

hi friends,

just help me as i am new to guns. i got a gun license a week back and it states that i am allowed to carry one N.P bore riffle and one smooth bore breech or muzzle loading gun. can u please guide me as to which gun to go for and also a site that gives me a glimpse of the above mentioned guns.

grewal · Post by **grewal** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:32 pm

rohan262 wrote:gives me a glimpse

Why only glimpse , you can even lay your hands on the beauties. You can touch them, feel them , hug them and even let them blossom if you have a virgin one. Dont get distracted. I mean the gun and the rifle for which you have got the license .

indiaone · Post by **indiaone** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:35 pm

Mr Rohan,
Did the license landed up on its own or you had applied for the same. In case, you had applied for a gun license you must have assessed your requirement before hand. Therefore, your question appears to be very strange and on top of it I am surprised at the generocity of the Government of Karnataka in distributing arms licenses as if they are for free ice cream.

thomast1 · Post by **thomast1** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:52 pm

indiaone wrote:Mr Rohan,
Did the license landed up on its own or you had applied for the same. In case, you had applied for a gun license you must have assessed your requirement before hand. Therefore, your question appears to be very strange and on top of it I am surprised at the generocity of the Government of Karnataka in distributing arms licenses as if they are for free ice cream.

he just asked a question. he might've assessed requirements, but you don't often get what you ask for around this place of the world! and what makes you feel that license is distributed like ice cream here? heard the bell?

Thomas

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