The Casual Attitude Of The Indian Police!

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The Casual Attitude Of The Indian Police!

Post by pandeymitul » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:12 pm

Hi! everybody! I am visiting IFG after a long time (due to the fact that my father disconnected the internet connection as he disproves me of visiting sites that have anything to do with guns :D). I would like to share one of my personal experiences that i had with the Indian Police. It was Diwali and i was in a festive mood. I went to my local market with another friend. On the way we met some cops(5-6) carrying SMG's & rifles. My friend told that the rifles were INSAS where i vouched for SLR. A debate followed. I vouched that to finish the debate,we ask the cop himself what the rifle was. I asked the one cop about the rifle. his reply"pata nahi bhai bare sahab ne bandook ded di aur bole b block market me jana hai. ham bhi aa gaye". I asked another cop.He told me that it was an SLR.I asked him if he could let me handle it(of course maine makhan maara. bola i was in NCC(a Lie) & that it was diwali so he should let me handle it). He gave me the rifle without a word!!!(1ST MISTAKE NEVER TRUST A 14 YR OLD WITH A SEMI AUTOMATIC RIFLE). I lined up the sights . Then i checked that the safety was off(i.e. all I had to do was press the trigger!). The cop seemed more interested in sipping his tea. I examined the rifle to my heart's content. Then i returned it wished them a happy Diwali & went to buy my crackers. My Q.- I was in my right mind and just examined it. If it was some maniac then he would certainly have shot a few cops before returing the rifle!

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Re: The Casual Attitude Of The Indian Police!

Post by hamiclar01 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:29 pm

pandeymitul wrote: . Then i checked that the safety was off(i.e. all I had to do was press the trigger!
:shock:
you mean you checked the safety was off by pressing the trigger?
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Re: The Casual Attitude Of The Indian Police!

Post by pandeymitul » Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:29 pm

no! the safety latch was off!

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Re: The Casual Attitude Of The Indian Police!

Post by Subal das » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:05 pm

Indian policemen doing they job and sacrificing their life when it necessary, to protect you and me, they are underpaid, under equipped and understaffed, and facing daily treats from all sides, consider all that and it may appear to you that they are not so bad after all, and keep your mind in positive direction or I will tell your dad to disconnect you from Internet again.
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Post by goodboy_mentor » Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:27 pm

@pandeymitul
In which Sector of Noida this experience being narrated by you happened? Are you telling a true incident or is it some imaginary story? BTW it is very easy to differentiate between INSAS and SLR. In Noida I have seen the cops with SMLEs, SLRs, INSAS, AK 47s and Carbines. To avoid confusion and unnecessary debate, you can show the pictures of these to your friends at http://ofbindia.gov.in/index.php?wh=Weapons&lang=en
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Re: The Casual Attitude Of The Indian Police!

Post by pandeymitul » Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:53 am

Hi! Mr. Das , I have a great amount of respect for the Indian Police(one of my uncles is in the calcutta police).I hold them in high regard. After all they were the front-soldiers during 26/11. But the fact that they allowed a kid to handle a rifle can`t be dismissed. I know that they are working in poor circumstances but they should atleast have the commomsence to not let a kid touch their service rifle. Please correct me if i am wrong. Thank You



Hi good boy mentor..... The above incident is absolutely true. The rifle was an SLR all right. It took place on Diwali,in Sec-62 Noida. BTW do you also live in Noida?



Too all, the above incident is absolutely true. Please do not dismiss it as a prank just because i am a kid. Call me(EDITED ) & I will tell you all that happened or leave your ph.no. as a comment below,I will call.

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Post by Subal das » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:48 am

if gun do not have amo you can give to any body, have you seen live cartilages there - NO. This incident may be significant for you, but fact is that you are looking for shait and that is very bad attitude.
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Re: The Casual Attitude Of The Indian Police!

Post by pandeymitul » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:15 am

No,I didn`t see the catridges there :wink: . But it makes little sense to carry a rifle but no ammo. :)








Let`s see what the other members have to say about it.



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Re: The Casual Attitude Of The Indian Police!

Post by Subal das » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:28 am

pandeymitul wrote:No,I didn`t see the catridges there :wink: . But it makes little sense to carry a rifle but no ammo. :)
there was amo in a pouch
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Re: The Casual Attitude Of The Indian Police!

Post by vishu20_inin » Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:10 pm

pandeymitul wrote:
But the fact that they allowed a kid to handle a rifle can`t be dismissed. I know that they are working in poor circumstances but they should atleast have the commomsence to not let a kid touch their service rifle. Please correct me if i am wrong. Thank You
Hey Kid You are too young to understand all such things. Its trust one have on other as a human being. That cop might have a son/grandson of your age, who also has interest in guns and keep on putting such queries. After seeing your interest in guns he might got an image of his questions and he allowed u to have a look on weapon. This is all about trust, no matter you are 14 or 40. Do you confirm about age, previous experience of driver/pilot the time you buy train/air tickets, NO, because you have trust that they will take you to your destination and not betray.

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Re: The Casual Attitude Of The Indian Police!

Post by dr.jayakumar » Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:30 pm

hi friends,i have a feeling that the weapon wasn't loaded!!our cops are not fools.

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Re: The Casual Attitude Of The Indian Police!

Post by pandeymitul » Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:32 pm

@Mr.Das......... Yeah didn't occur to me .I am sorry. :oops: . the Indian police indeed are hardworking :agree: . No hard feelings okay? @vishu......... Thank you for your guidance.I guess it very well could be the case.

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Re: The Casual Attitude Of The Indian Police!

Post by xl_target » Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:34 pm

I will make no comment on pandeymitul's post as very likely the firearm he handled was not loaded. Most policemen are underpaid for the job that they do and it is a thankless job. I do appreciate the men and women who put their lives on the line to enforce the law.

However, I would like to relate a similar incident that happened to me. I was in the 11th standard in Bombay (yes it was still called Bombay then) and I too asked a policeman if I could handle his weapon. I was quite familiar with the SMLE as I, unlike pandeymitul, had actually been in the NCC. He handed me his No1 Mk 3 without a qualm. I assumed it was unloaded and so I looked it over, put it to my shoulder and sighted it at the sky and then after taking the safety off, operated the bolt handle. He then yelled at me and grabbed the rifle back. While the chamber was empty, the magazine was full! Looking back, I think it was quite irresponsible of him to have handed a total stranger a weapon in that condition. I would like to think that it was just one person and that they do not all have a casual attitude towards firearms safety

To this day, I do not let strangers handle any of my weapons. There have been occasions where a visitor to my home has asked to see one of my guns or someone at the range has asked to shoot one of my guns. In the case of a handgun, I will remove the magazine and lock the slide back. In the case of a rifle, I will open the bolt or lock the cocking handle back. I also always visually check for ammo and stick my finger in the chamber. They did teach us that in the NCC. Even if it was the instructor who asked for your rifle, you had to open the bolt, look in the chamber and then stick your finger in to verify that it was empty before handing it over.
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Re: The Casual Attitude Of The Indian Police!

Post by pandeymitul » Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:53 pm

:) hi5!

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Re: The Casual Attitude Of The Indian Police!

Post by Katana » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:20 pm

xl,

Thats exactly what I teach my son, who is about 10. Even with air rifles. We first visually check anything and everything before removing any arm from the arms cupboard, be extremely careful while shooting and check everything before and after cleaning the arms while putting them away. Safety first and foremeost. And yes, forget strangers, never ever, hand over your weapon to anyone. Another of my principles is to store ammo away from the arms. Never in the same cupboard.

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