winnie_the_pooh wrote:Bespoke wrote:How much do you know about H&H's and London gun trade of 19th and 20th century?
Zilch,nada,zero.....Kindly educate me O great one.
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Then that is a good reason reconsider twice before making tall claims like poor quality.
winnie_the_pooh wrote:O great one, can you tell me something about the Dominion shotguns, rifles built on military surplus P 1914 actions with aluminium bottom metals and the time line for the 'Golden Era' of best London made guns.
Lets us see,
"Dominion" shotguns were called grade "C" no "3" and got name Dominion in 1934 and as name suggests it was made to be used in the Dominion's of the empire.It is a back action rounded sidelock and has much more strength than bar action sidelocks ,It was not ornate like Royals but was still made to order with top of the line materials,some people regard it as one of the strongest action from Holland and Holland and they still command and deserves good respect and price.
David Winks, who worked for Holland & Holland for many decades regarded the Dominion back lock models as “robust, simple and well-balanced, one of my favourite guns”. ( Donald Dallas )
You dont even know what was "Golden Era" and what was "Wartime",The Military surplus p 1914 you mentioned was to help the war effort for Military use.
Contracts Place for P1914 on 23 June 1939 are follows
J. Purdey 34,847
Skimin & Wood 41,331
Westley Richards 36,196
W W Greener 39,418
Holland & Holland 42,408
Holland & Holland 136,760
Cogswell & Harrison 14,323
Boss & Co. 20,344
Parker Hale 21,264
J. Purdey 433
Now you will say Oh Boss& Co and J.Purdey made rifles on P1914 during war time and so they are poor quality gunmakers!
Quoted from Internet
During both World Wars and the Korean War, a number of Lee-Enfield rifles were also modified as sniper rifles. During the later war, the result was the No. 4 Mk I (T). Standard No. 4 rifles, selected for their accuracy during factory tests, were modified by the addition of a wooden cheek-piece, and telescopic sight mounts designed to accept a No. 32 3.5x telescopic sight. This particular sight progressed through three marks with the Mk 1 introduced in 1942, the Mk 2 in 1943 and finally the Mk 3 in 1944 (later re-designated the L1A1).[2] Holland and Holland, the famous British sporting gun manufacturers, converted many of these sniper rifles, along with BSA and Long Branch in Canada. These rifles were extensively employed in various conflicts until the late 1960s. An updated 7.62x51mm NATO version was in use as late as the Falklands War of 1982.
For your better understanding and for sake of not misleading people on the forum in future.I would like to recommend a book called "An Armourer's Perspective: .303 No.4 (T) Sniper Rifle and the Holland and Holland Connection" - Written by Peter Laidler with Ian Skennerton.
winnie_the_pooh wrote:Bespoke wrote:"Shot and Regulated by H&H"
Ah yes,right from BSA made Lee Speeds to Winchester rifles and a whole lot of other makers in between.Probably a good way to make money at the cost of just putting those words on the firearm.
Why not they earned those words!
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but even there looks like you screwed up..... in trying to give it an authentic touch you have actually done a very poor copy-cut- paste job....
