Short Pump action of good make

[grewal]

only pump action automatic (with side loading), (where u can load upto 7-8 shots)

How can a pump action be automatic ?

R Automatic shotguns are legal, in delhi, specially ?

Why will Delhi be governed by separate law police ?

(where u can load upto 7-8 shots)

No pump actin can be loaded with 7 to 8 rounds unless modified. A normal pump can be loaded with 4 rounds unless 5th one is chambered. And it is not necessary that all pump action guns are side loading , some are under loading also .

Pls guide me how this question is incomplete, as side loading can be more than 2 rounds, which is normal for any SBBL, or DBBL

And I still do not understand this quote

[MoA]

A pump action by definition is manually actuated. You could have a semi-auto shotgun, but that wouldnt be a pump action. I believe Benelli does make a few, as do Saiga. Though the designs do differ radically.

There are automatic shotguns in existence, however I do not believe these are sold on the market anywhere in the world.

You can buy several pump action shotguns with a capacity of 5 or more shots. My Mossberg is 5+1. Good luck on finding one in India though.

[TwoRivers]

There are far more semi-automatic/self-loading shotguns models on the market than there a pump action ones, since the pump was until recently an American phenomenon. Benelli became famous for its autoloader, as are other Italian makers.
As to pumps, Chinese and Philippine clones of US designs are also on the market.
Generally, I'm not overly fond of them; though a Russian one with the magazine tube on top intrigues me.
Cheers.

[carbine]

semiautomatic shotgun are PB in india.go for pump action .i have seen remington ,winchester and savage pump action shotgun in varanasi, meerut ,allahabad all were available above 2lakh price tag.

[amit888_2000]

How can a pump action be automatic ?

grewal, dont catch words, i asked a question, pump action, automatic ?, just forgot to put a (comma), and u started discussion....

Why will Delhi be governed by separate law police ?

Now, here, let me give u a small example, .38 special is NPB in delhi, and PB in mumbai....., grewal, my friend, what will u call this ?, a seprate law ?....

No pump actin can be loaded with 7 to 8 rounds unless modified. A normal pump can be loaded with 4 rounds unless 5th one is chambered. And it is not necessary that all pump action guns are side loading , some are under loading also .

here, i dont, know, that's why i am asking....so insted of nickpicking my words, just answer....
Dear grewal, thankx for ur answer, i appreciate ur effort, nice answer, ok...)))cheers!!!

-- Thu Jun 03, 2010 13:41 --

Thankx carbine, u have a PM

[grewal]

Now, here, let me give u a small example, .38 special is NPB in delhi, and PB in mumbai....., grewal, my friend, what will u call this ?, a seprate law ?....

Its the other way round in mumbai 9mm is NP bore ( but only within mumbai ). Well this variation is because certain laws in mumbai are governed by " Bombay school of law " .
Well I will advice you to go in for pump action type of shotgun. The Winchester model 12 will be very good or you can even search Ithaca , that is also a good pump action shotgun. A semi auto is a P bore gun . And you mixed certain words in your query that's why I pointed out . , but one thing more you can only use imported amno to get smooth operation of the gun. Indian amno ( even astram ) tend to swell .I also want to buy a pump action.

[amit888_2000]

in mumbai 9mm is NP bore ( but only within mumbai ).

Little correction here, and pls correct me if i am wrong, I think, in mumbai they treat only 1911 as NPB, not 9mm, and the same law in Gujrat as well....

Thankx for ur advice dear, if i find 2 i'll Pm u....for sure ....

one more clerification - full butt or pistol grip (I think full butt is better) ?

how abt Remington 870, have a look, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_870

imported amno not a problem ....

)))cheers!!!

[grewal]

Amit 1911 is a colt .32 bore pistol available extensively. where as 9mm is NP bore in mumbai and else where it is p bore . Full size butt is always better for a shotgun.

[amit888_2000]

Amit 1911 is a colt .32 bore pistol available extensively. where as 9mm is NP bore in mumbai and else where it is p bore . Full size butt is always better for a shotgun.

no dear, 1911 (.45), is NP Bore in mumbai, which is P bore in delhi...& as 9mm is PB in delhi and mumbai both.. ( I would request mundir to clerify this, as he is a proud owner of 1911 himself).

have a look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1911_pistol

[grewal]

1911 comes in various bores, my brother in law has a 1911 us property in .32

[mundaire]

This is going OT, but I'll bite:

Amit is right on this, in the "Republic of Mumbai" the .45 ACP is entered on NPB licenses, but they treat the .38 Spl & .357 as PB. Why they should do so is beyond my comprehension, but I have to admit I have benefited somewhat as a fallout of this strange Mumbai policy as now fresh ammo for .45 ACP has become easier to find (since dealers are importing .45 ammo to service the Mumbai market).

Talking about strange interpretations, I hear that in Punjab it has become almost impossible to get a .450 revolver entered on an NPB license, even though the .450 Adams is a NPB cartridge... incidentally it also happens to be an obsolete cartridge.

As to the 1911's, they were originally chambered for .45 ACP, though one does get them in other calibres as well, but I haven't yet heard of one in .32 ACP. Perhaps you are confusing it with the Colt 1903?

HTH

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[amit888_2000]

I my self own a .32 ACP US property, Model- automatic ----still little doubt, no where it is written 1911

have a look dear ngrewal - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Model ... Hammerless

I request mod's to pls clerify, both issues.....?

[winnie_the_pooh]

I have come across these calibres in India .45 ACP,.455 and .38 Super

[cottage cheese]

I my self own a .32 ACP US property, Model- automatic ----still little doubt, no where it is written 1911

have a look dear ngrewal - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Model ... Hammerless

I request mod's to pls clerify, both issues.....?

Not intentionally adding to the OT goulash, but one often notices a common misuse of nomenclature.

"US Property" is not a model or any particularly make of pistol or any gun there of. The "United States Property" marking also appears in all M1911's that were manufactured for US Government(Military) contracts. You'll also typically find this marking in all Rifles/Sub Machine Guns/Machine guns/Shotguns etc. that were destined for US Government contracts dating to WWII and before that.

...why, a large proportion of our Lee-Enfield No. IV Mk1's have "US Property" markings on them. These were manufactured by Savage and a number of other US companies, on instructions of the US government as a way to help ease the manufacturing work load of the then beleaguered British and commonwealth manufacturing units....er Lend lease.

Check this excellent contribution by M24 : http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=9696


anyway back to the topic...and sorry for the butt in.

regards,
cc

[shooter]

have a look dear ngrewal

Ihope you wont call this nitpicking but we have two mwmbers here with similar names.

"ngrewal" is a senior member here based in the US and "grewal" is Prabhdeep paaji who is a recent member but posts a lot and is becoming quite popular due to his sense of humour.

I just wanted to clarify this because the 2 members have diff backgrounds esp when it comes to firearms laws and availability and there shouldnt be any doubt amongst the writers as to whom they are addressing.