We should interview Abhinav Bindra for RKBA

[Yaj]

in a country where most doctors only run after money.

I just happened to check out this topic and i would have taken you up on this but as i read through the thread I realised that you repeatedly admit that you do not know much.Most of your comments seemed to be based on stereotypes and cliches that you have been conditioned to believe in so i will let this pass.
Regards,
Yaj.

[TenX]

Yaj... Did not mean to offend anyone personally.
Matter of fact, I will always admit that I dont know much... thats the best way to learn

Regarding docs, I owe a lot of my perception to actual happenings that I have experienced and/or witnessed.

I still have an extremely good family doctor, some very good doctor friends, and also know several doctors who have given up a life of luxury for humanitarian causes. But equally well, I have been cheated, mis-guided and so often observed certain happenings that may have borne the statement I made.

Its more like this. There are several good cops, but one too many is into corruption and this given the entire police cadre a bad name. Its something like that. I completely agree that "Nothing in this world can be generalized; not even this sentence", and should not have made any remark as such. But in the matter of discussion, some thoughts do go out

Thanks for understanding...

[Yaj]

Anand, what upset me was taking a potshot at my profession in a topic that had nothing to do with it whatsoever.Of late the medical profession seems to be a favourite "whipping boy" even in the media with lapses being hyped while all the good done being totally ignored.
As you said there are bad apples in every profession so generalisations are extremely unfair.
Thanks for the clarification We're
Regards,
Yaj.

[warthog]

hi nice to see so many guys debating.
I want to know the source you say that it was originally meant to be the part of the constitution and what other fundamental rights were to be enacted and were our rights originally meant to be absolute.

But we have a golden opportunity with abhinav bindra.dont miss this golden egg.
i had emailed you back in aug about interviewing but got no reply.

Warthog, have had a long day... but if you go through/ search some of the older posts in the RKBA forum here. You should be able to find one by me which details the debate in the constituent assembly of the Indian parliament... all details are there.

As to answering my personal e-mails - well, I must apologise. But I get no less than 20 e-mails a day from people (related to guns) asking all types of questions and if I sat down to answer each one in detail I may as well forget about earning a living (I'm a middle class chappie and I do need to bring home the bacon you know). What I do is redirect people to this forum... I hope you understand.

Cheers!
abhijeet

well i searched the site but i couldn't find it and rather than debating here about RKBA we should contact abhinav bindira

[TenX]

...well i searched the site but i couldn't find it and rather than debating here about RKBA we should contact abhinav bindira

Yes, we should. But who will bell the cat
I can surely ask him during the coming NSCC if he comes there. I dont have his personal contact to go ahead, and I am sure that is the bottleneck with everyone here ...

Can anyone lead the brigade?

[mundaire]

OUP, you have mistaken the point I was trying to make. I am no where advocating even "stricter" checks and balances. Our current system already has plenty of those... and they are followed over zealously for any normal applicant, the minute pressure/ money is applied those checks & balances disappear! I am all for a "free" regime with mere check to determine if the applicant has a previous criminal record or history of mental illness. This is the only a clear and objective measure, everything else makes the process "subjective" which is what it is now.

The minute we make the decision to issue or not to issue (arms licenses) subjective, we open the door to corruption. A clear objective measure combined with the landmark RTI Act is a sure shot method of eliminating corruption from this entire process and paving the way towards a freer and fairer society.

Furthermore, a whole bunch of people with arms licenses but no guns or ammo to buy, is the best way to ensure that the import ban is lifted...

well i searched the site but i couldn't find it and rather than debating here about RKBA we should contact abhinav bindira

What terms did you search on? I got this on my first search - http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?t=1625

The enumeration of the fundamental rights of free Indian citizens was made at the Karachi session of the Indian National Congress (March 29-31, 1931), where they adopted a resolution on fundamental rights.

Debates/ discussions are what forums are all about... like I said earlier, I do not know Mr. Bindra but if any of you here know him I'd be happy to extend an invitation to join us for an online "interview"...

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[OverUnderPump]

A clear objective measure combined with the landmark RTI Act is a sure shot method of eliminating corruption from this entire process and paving the way towards a freer and fairer society.

I'm all for having the increased transparency that RTI brings to the table.

I also went through the historical parliament debate and found this;

It is all right. Sir,for Ministers of Government to say, "We are here to protect you". But, with security guards outside their bungalows, it is very well for them to put forward this plea. But the ordinary citizen has no armed guard about him, no guards standing outside his house. If the Government wishes to convey the impression to the people that the Government has no faith in them, that it is afraid of them, if that is the attitude of the Government, then it is welcome to say so.

Very little has changed from back then.

regards

OUP

[nagarifle]

having followed this post , without doubt there are few to say the least, irregularity with RKBA and licensing.

i am lead to believe that the Arms Act etc is based in British law/rule. ( or replaced by the same )

i want to introduce a slight change in the topic if i may? i want to mention that in the UK you can have your Arms license within 6 weeks max.without making more then one trip to the police sta and delivered to your door mat.Without having being connected with politicians etc. as long as you have the four basic requirement met.

our nation being as it is and we are all aware how hard it is to go past the first hurdle of obtaining an application form without being asked/interrogated by some one who could not tell the different between a pistol and a shotgun.

i believe that in India the Conssituation is good one but the producers are somewhat lacking. we live in a society where if you are being attacked the police would stand by and watch until its all over(i am speaking in my area) while on duty the police are obliged to protect any citizen under visible threat. However this as we all are too aware is not happening. of course unless you are connected.

In my experience the police is NEVER there when you need them and if they are on the spot they wait after the harm is done.

if the government can not or able not to provide protection to all its citizens then i believe that the public should be encouraged to RKBA.

[TenX]

...by some one who could not tell the different between a pistol and a shotgun...

How true...

[TenX]

FLASH NEWS ...
Abhinav is landing in Bangalore today, to carry on later to inaugurate the Dusshera festival at Mysore. I have just been asked to represent the state committee in welcoming him... Let me see if I can get some positive response from him to join us/lend an interview...
Keeping my fingers crossed

[TenX]

What a day.. travelled 3 hours to shake his hand and hand him a bouquet for 3 seconds ....

Dude was just too busy and with crowded people, there was no way I could have picked up a conversation lasting more than a quarter syllable!

On the bright side, I have his direct contact number, including that of his manager. I will PM this to Abhijeet, and see if anyone can take it from there. His planned schedule is supposedly extremely busy till monday afternoon when he will be returning home. In any rare chance, if there is some tea party or whatever that I can be part of, I will push again from my end

On the lighter side, and while on the way, we had to pick up the head of the State Youth Service and Sports Association, and stopped at the state sports headquarters. Some guys assumed me to be some sort of VIP and ushered me as one of the Chief Guests for the Kabaddi Association Award ceremony Spent a good half hour there being photographed and video-taped

[warthog]

omg great job,abhijit dont miss this golden opportunity and plz interview him and also tell him about right to bear arms as a fundamental right that was rejected.

once again a thank you tenx,without you this board would be the same ifg but you have made history!!

if abhinav joins us that the possibility of having a fundamental right increased million fold

[MoA]

Get him to be a regular on the forum and that will really make this place take off.

[TenX]

Abhijeet...
Did you get my PM? Any progress

[mundaire]

Abhijeet...
Did you get my PM? Any progress

Got the PM, but am out of town till friday, so will only be able to action this early next week...