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Re: New Purchase 458 Win Mag

Post by HydNawab » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:15 pm

Oh sorry will put them up soon.

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Re: New Purchase 458 Win Mag

Post by shooter50 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:05 am

Good buy Ashar, but the 458 win mag is everything which the Americans wanted in a dangerous game rifle but could not achieve it. With a 22 inch barrel it rarely attains the velocity advertised. If u have an option sell it and try for a 416 Righby or a 404 Jeffrey. Personally i prefer the 404 --- it is fun to shoot with its mild recoil.

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Re: New Purchase 458 Win Mag

Post by Sakobav » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:30 am

shooter50

Aside from your advice. Recently a tiger was shot in UP using Winchester 458 check the link, Ashar had met this gentleman

http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6152

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Re: New Purchase 458 Win Mag

Post by winnie_the_pooh » Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:02 am

Is there any ammo for these rifles in the market that is not 20-40 years old?

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Re: New Purchase 458 Win Mag

Post by HydNawab » Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:17 am

There is new ammo available for this rifle in New Delhi and Mumbai but expensive. The price is 550 bucks a piece for a 500 grain cartridge by Hornady. 510 grains 400 grains, 350 grains ammo by Federal are also available with an option of soft noses or solids.

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Re: New Purchase 458 Win Mag

Post by indianhunter » Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:14 am

HydNawab wrote:There is new ammo available for this rifle in New Delhi and Mumbai but expensive. The price is 550 bucks a piece for a 500 grain cartridge by Hornady. 510 grains 400 grains, 350 grains ammo by Federal are also available with an option of soft noses or solids.

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Hi Ashar,

I am new to this forum. I am thrilled to see so many shooting enthusiasts in India. I had to leave India to pursue my interest in firearm ownership, shooting and hunting. Your entry on 458 Win Mag caught my attention. I agree with shooter50 comments. 458 Win is no doubt fun to shoot but few are taken to Africa, because of its performance. 416 Rigby would be an ideal substitute if you plan to hunt big game in either India or Africa. 404 Jeffrey is another classic that has proved itself all over the world. Because of the proprietary nature the ammo is very dear. 416 Rem is a best compromise. I have rifles from .22LR to 416 Rigby and take them to hunt all over the world where ever hunting is legally available. Because I reload the ammo, I have the luxury of choosing any projectile of my choice. I am so glad I found this forum. Would any one arrange a hunt for me in India? Have great fun.

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Re: New Purchase 458 Win Mag

Post by marksman » Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:59 am

Only animals that are officially allowed to be hunted in India are certain varmints loke Crow, Rats and Terrorists. :wink: Anyways, welcome to the forum indianhunter.
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Re: New Purchase 458 Win Mag

Post by HydNawab » Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:40 am

marksman wrote:Only animals that are officially allowed to be hunted in India are certain varmints loke Crow, Rats and Terrorists. :wink: Anyways, welcome to the forum indianhunter.
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Or you can carry it to Africa and back with a prior permission from the Commissioner of Police.

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Re: New Purchase 458 Win Mag

Post by winnie_the_pooh » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:57 pm

HydNawab wrote:There is new ammo available for this rifle in New Delhi and Mumbai but expensive. The price is 550 bucks a piece for a 500 grain cartridge by Hornady. 510 grains 400 grains, 350 grains ammo by Federal are also available with an option of soft noses or solids.

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A very expensive way to punch holes in a paper target.

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Re: New Purchase 458 Win Mag

Post by shooter50 » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:44 pm

I posted that with Asars Africa trip in mind. If you are going to use the 458 mag in India then target shooting is all you can do, but it is not all that expensive because one or 2 shots with a 458 mag is a group !!!!

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Re: New Purchase 458 Win Mag

Post by HydNawab » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:23 pm

I would not think of taking the 458 to Africa. Reason: They have very nice guns in calibers like the 416 Rigby, 458 Win Mag, 375 Mag and the 470NE.

The gun I want to take is a Jeffery's 450/400 double. Will post pictures in December.

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Re: New Purchase 458 Win Mag

Post by abir » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:51 pm

WHAT IS THE PRICE?

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Re: New Purchase 458 Win Mag

Post by HydNawab » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:56 pm

Price???

For What?
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Re: New Purchase 458 Win Mag

Post by MoA » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:00 am

The Africa trip I guess. Where are you going? And what are you going after?

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Re: New Purchase 458 Win Mag

Post by HydNawab » Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:35 pm

MoA wrote:The Africa trip I guess. Where are you going? And what are you going after?
I recently got a quote from Die Keiler in Namibia. 1 Kudu, 1 Zebra, 1 Steinbuck, 1 Gemsbok, 1 Blesbuck, 1 Warthog and 1 Blue Wilderbeest for a total price of $10500 including the trophy fees. This is a 10 Day safari.I want to add 2 cape buffalos to my license but someone here suggested that Tanzania is the place for CBs.

I also got a quote for 3 Cape buffalos 10 Day safari for $24450 in Selous,Tanzania with Jack Brittingham's Tanzania Adventures. I think this is too expensive for just 3 buffalos. There is no point in taking a double for a plains game safari so I was thinking of just getting 2 Buffalos, 1 Sable, 1 Gemsbok and a Zebra. Still waiting for the quote from other PHs.

The trophy fee is not that much but the problem is the daily rate.

This is the email I received from Classic Safaris.

"Dear Ashar Raoof,



Thank you for your interest and contacting us. We apologise for the late reply, we returned Friday evening from our hunting areas.



Currently we have a moratorium on leopard hunting in Namibia for 2009 but we will only have clarity on the 2010 season during November. I will include the leopard just for your figures and budgeting purposes.



We recommend 21 days simply on the number of species that you would like to hunt as well as a few of them can be time consuming and very single minded type hunts like the Leopard and crocodile for instance and then also to spend time concentrating on trophy quality.



21 days 1x1 @ $1,250.00 per day and your wife is at no charge.

Buffalo $ 3,125.00 each

Hippo $ 2,800.00

Crocodile $ 2,200.00

Impala $375.00

Zebra $ 675.00

Sable $ 4,000.00

Leopard $3,500.00



Daily Rates Include



Accommodation



3 full meals per day



Beverages/refreshments (in moderation)



Daily laundry service



Services of a licensed professional hunter with support staff



Hunting vehicles



Field preparation



Road transfers to and from Katima Mulilo's Mpacha airport



Hunting licenses

Other Costs not Included



Flights to and from Katima Mulilo's Mpacha airstrip. Air Namibia has regular scheduled flights from Windhoek at very reasonable costs.



15% VAT (government charge) on daily rates only

Accommodation/s prior to and after safari





Thank you once again for your interest and contacting us, we welcome any questions that you may have and look forward to your reply.





Respectfully,



Vaughan Fulton

Classic Safaris"

Thats $42925 + taxidermy fee. Have to decide if I want to spend that kind of money.


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