Amico M300 Under lever

[amolpisal]

Sorry friends, yesterday (Sunday) I was not able to test my M300. I was busy polishing and refurbishing the swords I have. Guys I have a pair of original katana Samurai swords with me as an anchestral possesion. It was a great sunday spending time with these two beauties.
My M300 test will be published the moment I test it.

Raptor, were you able to check for the grooves of your M300. I dont understand how should i check it.

Amol

[Raptor]

Gentlemen!! the M300 as arrived and its a beauty!!!!! Amol its not a heavy as i thought it would be , the only thing missing is a sling . its gonna be a chore to lug it around. Everything said and done I am happppppppppppyyyyyyyyyyyy! Can't wait to test it. Oh another thing Aimco goofed up slightly I had asked for a can of pepper spray which was not included they sent me 10 boxes of .22 pellets instead

Congrats Raptor,
Welcome to the M300 family.

Thanks Amol

-- Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:36 pm --

Amol
I took the easy way out and asked Mr. Biswas he said it's 1 twist in 16. But i am not much of an expert on the technicalities.

-- Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:39 pm --

Amolpisal & Raptor Congrats both of you.

I am really impress with the photo of M300 & wants to know some more details

How is the barrel grooving? - 1:16
What is the weight of gun? 5 kgs approx
Barrel Length- 19 inches
& above all how is the grouping?

to be tested on 15th march

[Vassili Zaitsev]

Hey Amol.............Katana is a personal fav of mine...Do shed some light or may post few pics?offcourse M300 is a preference as well...
I love Katana for the ancient type preparation and the agility of the blade and the force it cuts through almost anything and offcourse the length of the impressive blade..

[nsudhakar]

Hello to all

Could some one provide information on Mastershot pellets (export quality only). Since i have read some posts on their quality and as I'm thinking of M300, whether these will work well with M300. Where in Delhi can I get them ?

Regards

Sudhakar

[amolpisal]

Hello to all

Could some one provide information on Mastershot pellets (export quality only). Since i have read some posts on their quality and as I'm thinking of M300, whether these will work well with M300. Where in Delhi can I get them ?

Regards

Sudhakar

Hello Sudhakar,
Master shot pellets are very good in indian brands. Which callibre you are looking for? I am not aware of 0.177 but regarding .22... flat head wadcutter and export quality round head are my choice. I think Master shot pellets are easily available anywhere, else you can check on master shot web site. I am yet to test but when i shot some 10-15 pellets through M300 i think Master shot export quality round head will work fine with M300 considering M300's loading facility and fit of the pellet in M300.
Thanks
Amol

[nsudhakar]

Thanks Amol

Yeah, I meant MasterShot (.22 Wadcutters and Round heads - export). You mean they can be procured from any Gun dealer in Delhi. If so thanks again for the quick response.

Sudhakar

[amolpisal]

Hello Friends,
Today I found some time to try my hands on my new M300 and tried to zero it. The pellets which I had were Master Shot hunt, Master shot round Head export, Gamo, G Smith flat head. And The distance I used for zeroing was 20 meters . Here are my results which I want to share:
1) The gun had enough power to pass through a tin box and the pellet was trapped inside. Tin box used was 6 inch tall round shaped, generally used for an insecticide.
2) When fired on a scaled, bulls eye target, it showed a grouping of 1.5 inches.
3) But the grouping was different for different pellets and it varied a lot. 8 inches in my case.
4) The sight is not of good quality and it was very difficult to zero the gun even after keeping one fixed pellets. If you try to set the elevation, the windage also got changed and vise versa. Finally I have removed the rear sight from gun to check for its fittings and found it to be of low quality. I think I have to fit a IHP sight to this gun, which thankfully I thing will match.
I will write back to you after I fit a new or worked rear sight on this gun and test it again.
At least I was satisfied with the power the gun has and also the grouping.
Thanks
Amol

[tirths]

Hello Friends,
Today I found some time to try my hands on my new M300 and tried to zero it. The pellets which I had were Master Shot hunt, Master shot round Head export, Gamo, G Smith flat head. And The distance I used for zeroing was 20 meters . Here are my results which I want to share:
1) The gun had enough power to pass through a tin box and the pellet was trapped inside. Tin box used was 6 inch tall round shaped, generally used for an insecticide.
2) When fired on a scaled, bulls eye target, it showed a grouping of 1.5 inches.
3) But the grouping was different for different pellets and it varied a lot. 8 inches in my case.
4) The sight is not of good quality and it was very difficult to zero the gun even after keeping one fixed pellets. If you try to set the elevation, the windage also got changed and vise versa. Finally I have removed the rear sight from gun to check for its fittings and found it to be of low quality. I think I have to fit a IHP sight to this gun, which thankfully I thing will match.
I will write back to you after I fit a new or worked rear sight on this gun and test it again.
At least I was satisfied with the power the gun has and also the grouping.
Thanks
Amol

Where are you aiming at? Will it be 1ft high or below than the target before pulling the trigger? I am sure you cannot hit the object if you are aiming at it with the kind of trigger it has.

[Raptor]

Hello Friends,
Today I found some time to try my hands on my new M300 and tried to zero it. The pellets which I had were Master Shot hunt, Master shot round Head export, Gamo, G Smith flat head. And The distance I used for zeroing was 20 meters . Here are my results which I want to share:
1) The gun had enough power to pass through a tin box and the pellet was trapped inside. Tin box used was 6 inch tall round shaped, generally used for an insecticide.
2) When fired on a scaled, bulls eye target, it showed a grouping of 1.5 inches.
3) But the grouping was different for different pellets and it varied a lot. 8 inches in my case.
4) The sight is not of good quality and it was very difficult to zero the gun even after keeping one fixed pellets. If you try to set the elevation, the windage also got changed and vise versa. Finally I have removed the rear sight from gun to check for its fittings and found it to be of low quality. I think I have to fit a IHP sight to this gun, which thankfully I thing will match.
I will write back to you after I fit a new or worked rear sight on this gun and test it again.
At least I was satisfied with the power the gun has and also the grouping.
Thanks
Amol

Where are you aiming at? Will it be 1ft high or below than the target before pulling the trigger? I am sure you cannot hit the object if you are aiming at it with the kind of trigger it has.

Tirths I will post some targets I prctised on . I don't feel that the trigger is the problem.

[tirths]

Will be happy to see your target Raptor.

[Raptor]

Will be happy to see your target Raptor.

Tirths the screw sceuring the butt to the barell/action flew off While I was firing at the range almost cost me my fingers . Aimco has said they will supply new screws but my question is can the gun be trusted? Request urgent advice . Will post pictures as soon asfigure out how to connect the damned phone to the goddamnned computer

[tirths]

Thank god you are safe! Yes the gun is trusted If it is a good copy of jimmy! Always good to check engine before take-off

[amolpisal]

Hello Friends,
Hey I removed the rear sight of my Aimco 300 and cleaned and refitted it with tight fitting and no plays. But still guys I am not able to zero it. Some how I was able to pass light through the barrel and check the grooves... I found out that the grooves are not so deep, may be that I am not able to see them properly as the barrel was not at all clean. I think I have to clean it with brass brush first and check it again.
One more problem I want to discuss with you, may be Tirths can give me a explaination for this.... When I shot pellets on paper target, it was hitting sideways on the target. I have attached a image to explain what is happening actually. Hope someone can guid me the reason for it and a remedy also.
Thanks
Amol

[amolpisal]

Hey Guys,
I managed to clean the bore of my m300 and threw some light in it to check the grooves... They are really bakwas.... thats the culprit for the pellets hitting sideways. I dont understant, is it the same case with other guns also or mine is a faulty one....
I tried to check out the specifications of grooves on m300 from Aimco and here are our exchange of words with Aimco.... below...

microns



From: Amol A. Pisal [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 26 March 2010 15:24
To: AIMCO ENTERPRISE
Subject: RE: Little Clarification Needed.



Sir,

What does 3000 to 4000 means?... is it microns?

Else specify depth in mm...

Thanks

Amol Pisal

--- On Fri, 26/3/10, AIMCO ENTERPRISE <[email protected]> wrote:


From: AIMCO ENTERPRISE <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Little Clarification Needed.
To: "'Amol A. Pisal'" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, 26 March, 2010, 3:02 PM

Dear sir,

We have sent you the information we have the the depth of grooves are 3,000 to 4,000.

Regards,

Aimco



From: Amol A. Pisal [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 26 March 2010 14:18
To: AIMCO ENTERPRISE
Subject: RE: Little Clarification Needed.



Hello Sir,

Thanks for prompt reply. But still the most important question remains unanswered .. whats is the depth of grooves...? Please reply at the earliest.. so that I can check for the same on my gun..

Amol Pisal

--- On Fri, 26/3/10, AIMCO ENTERPRISE <[email protected]> wrote:


From: AIMCO ENTERPRISE <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Little Clarification Needed.
To: "'Amol A. Pisal'" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, 26 March, 2010, 1:28 PM

Dear sir,

The m300 has 12 groove rifling, twist is 1 ¼’ .

Regards,

Aimco



From: Amol A. Pisal [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 26 March 2010 13:10
To: AIMCO ENTERPRISE
Subject: RE: Little Clarification Needed.



Hello Sir,

I tried flat heads also, but its hitting sideways only... Please clarify me the queries regarding the grooves....

thanks

Amol Pisal

--- On Fri, 26/3/10, AIMCO ENTERPRISE <[email protected]> wrote:


From: AIMCO ENTERPRISE <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Little Clarification Needed.
To: "'Amol A. Pisal'" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, 26 March, 2010, 11:34 AM

Dear sir,

Grouping will change for different pellets hence we advise shooters to stick to one particular type of pellets. If you use flat head pellets that should give you the desired results as shown in the diagram.

Regards,

Aimco



From: Amol A. Pisal [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 26 March 2010 10:45
To: AIMCO ENTERPRISE
Subject: Little Clarification Needed.



Hello Sir,

Its been one month now that I have purchased my Aimco M300, but still I am not able to zero it. The grouping is also wide and changes drastically for different different pellet types. Also the pellet is hitting the target side wise and not head on. I have attached a diagram to explain it. I tried to have a look at the grooves and found it very very shallow. This is the main culprit for no accuracy of the gun. I hope you had tested the gun before dispatch. My other gun Aimco m75 has good depth grooves and the gun has very good accuracy.Will you please provide me following data for M300..1) no of grooves. 2) twist rate. 3) Groove depth ( (OD-ID)/2)..

Please provide me with some clarification as I am not at all happy with the gun's accuracy. The power of the gun is excellent, and also the range. We are also discussing this issue on forum Indiansforguns.com, you can check it out

http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8871



Thanks,


Amol Pisal

[tirths]

Amol, sometime back you have told us that you are getting a group of 1.5" and later you told you failed to do zeoring. If you can group that means you are successful with zeroing isn't it?

You have also told us about the huge power now it is hitting by a 90degree turn (usually by lack of power). What went wrong? Have you cocked the gun for a long time or the heavy leakage of air from pellet insert point?

If the gun is from gimmy factory (re-branded by amico) then rest assured the rifling is good. Could you please tell us which all pellets giving this 90d turn result also are you getting more piston hitting sound then before?

-Tirtha