Does national make pneumatic air pistol (not PCP or CO2)

[gverma]

Hi
Is anyone aware if National creates pneumatic air pistol (I know they make 10 m pneumatic air rifles) and they also make Co2 and pre charged pneumatic air pistols....

The reason for this question is I wanna explore the option of remaining simple...the whoe filling the cylender idea may not work out practically... and the fact that pneumatic air rifle which is self sufficient is rathe lucrative to me...

Thanks
Regards
Gaurav Verma

[fantumfan2003]

gverma

No, National do not have a Single Stroke Pneumatic 10mtr air pistol in their product range. Its not like filling cylinder etc. is a big chore. All target shooters do it, pistol and rifle...they do it from a HPA tank at the range.

I am with you on your take on a self contained powerplant system, unfortunately thats not how the manufacturers see it.

M.

[Nilkanth]

Dear Gaurav,
You have raised the very query I had in mind.
This is the latest product/price list I got from IHP.

Is anyone aware of an Indian/Foreign made good pneumatic pistol which does'nt cost a bomb.

Price list
Sr. Name of Product Qty. Rate Value 10% 2% 1% Sub 12.5% 2.5% Total
No. Cenvat Ecess Ecess Total CST Add.Tax Amount

1 0.177 Pneumatic Air Rifle (Open Sight) 1 7000 7000 700 14 7 7721 965 193 8879
2 0.177 Pneumatic Air Rifle (Peep Sight) 1 10000 10000 1000 20 10 11030 1379 276 12685
3 0.177 Co2 Pistol 1 5250 5250 525 11 5 5791 724 145 6660
4 0.177 Compressed Air Rifle 1 20000 20000 2000 40 20 22060 2758 552 25370
5 0.177 Compressed Air Pistol 1 7000 7000 700 14 7 7721 965 193 8879
6 0.177 National-25 B/T Air Rifle 1 2400 2400 240 5 2 2647 331 66 3044
7 0.177 B/T Air Pistol 1 1625 1625 163 3 2 1793 224 45 2062
8 P-10 Pellet Box 1 250 250 0 0 0 250 31 6 287
9 Target Catcher, String etc. 1 990 990 0 0 0 990 124 25 1139
Target Carrier Stand 1 990 990 99 2 1 1092 137 27 1256
10 Brass Adapter 1 242 242 24 1 1 268 34 7 309
11 300gram M.S. Eco.Container 1 550 550 0 0 0 550 69 14 633
12 Refilling device with gauge 1 2000 2000 0 0 0 2000 250 50 2300

[gverma]

Is there a latest brochure of national. The site is quite out of sync

[Nilkanth]

Is there a latest brochure of national. The site is quite out of sync

I got this mail from [email protected] today.
Am scourging the net.
I am sure knowledgeble & senior members will help out.

[fantumfan2003]

No brochure as far as I know....

Tried to put the infor here in a more readable format



Are this prices to end user ?

M.

Is there a latest brochure of national. The site is quite out of sync

I got this mail from [email protected] today.
Am scourging the net.
I am sure knowledgeble & senior members will help out.

[Nilkanth]

No brochure as far as I know....

Tried to put the infor here in a more readable format

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Are this prices to end user ?

M.

Is there a latest brochure of national. The site is quite out of sync

I got this mail from [email protected] today.
Am scourging the net.
I am sure knowledgeble & senior members will help out.

Thanks a lot fantumfan2003.
I have sent query regarding pueumatic air pistol to IHP.I don't think they make though.

-- Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:39 pm --

No brochure as far as I know....

Tried to put the infor here in a more readable format

[ Image ]

Are this prices to end user ?
These are prices at user end.

M.

Is there a latest brochure of national. The site is quite out of sync

I got this mail from [email protected] today.
Am scourging the net.
I am sure knowledgeble & senior members will help out.

[gverma]

Cool this is really great it will help many people in future

[fantumfan2003]

The compressed air pistol is quite a good deal and it performs well too....we can sort you out on that one....

M.

[hvj1]

Hello Gverma
I would sincerely advise you to change your mindset regarding PCP, a pneumatic pistol has its plus points as you are aware, however, the velocity of pneumatic pistols is lower than a compressed air pistol. So how does this make a difference?
The magnitude of difference is a bit larger for a novice shooter, who does not fully understand or has not fully mastered the aspect of 'follow through'. When the shooter HEARS the shot, the pellet is just emerging from the barrel. This holds true for all air pistols, the difference in velocities in the pneumatic (slower) and the compressed air (quicker) necessitates the shooter to be a master in folow through, diametrically opposite is the reaction of the novice, who switches of mentally when he hears the shot, as a result, his 'arc of movement' suddenly becomes larger. It is precisely here that a higher velocity gun is slightly more forgiving than the slower velocity gun, because the pellet emerges out of the barrel just as the arc of movement is increasing, unlike the pnematic, where the pellet leaves the barrel when the arc of movement has widened even further.
This makes a big difference to the shot placement on the target. A bad shot from the pneumatic, in the hands of a novice can be a 'flyer' (in the white), whereas with the compressed air the same shot could still hit the 7th ring (outer circumference of the black).
So forget convenience and think of long term performance and all technical aspects that lead to it.
Regards

[gverma]

Hi hvj1
This was a great piece of info. I didnt know any of this.

Now that I have found with my resserch te ability to charge a PCP gun. The PCP gun is also on my wish list as adviced by you.

I do intend to collect a bunch of guns though use PCP for practice.... and if possible if I travel purchase some nice imported guns with more bells and whisles....

[hvj1]

All the very Best

[prasen123]

what is IHP Refilling device with gauge?