A Good Reason to Ban Hunting in India!!
-
- Almost at nirvana
- Posts: 216
- Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:33 pm
- Location: South Africa
A Good Reason to Ban Hunting in India!!
Dear Members,
I am sure that you are aware of the reasons behind the banning of hunting in India, wait..... one of the reason you may like to add to your list is:
"Wild life can go a long way eradicating terrorism"
Yes! if you don't believe me Read this:
http://www.earlytimes.in/earlytimes1/ne ... px?q=45701
cheers,
tingriman
I am sure that you are aware of the reasons behind the banning of hunting in India, wait..... one of the reason you may like to add to your list is:
"Wild life can go a long way eradicating terrorism"
Yes! if you don't believe me Read this:
http://www.earlytimes.in/earlytimes1/ne ... px?q=45701
cheers,
tingriman
-
- On the way to nirvana
- Posts: 93
- Joined: Sat May 23, 2009 1:17 pm
- Location: Ahmedabad
Re: A Good Reason to Ban Hunting in India!!
Yes..i do agree that hunting should be banned completely in India..to ensre protect wild life
- eternalme
- One of Us (Nirvana)
- Posts: 336
- Joined: Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:51 pm
- Location: Gurgaon
- Contact:
Re: A Good Reason to Ban Hunting in India!!
Hunting is banned already, except for occassional grants for shooting vermin like neel gai.
ll====lll lll====ll
lll Subs lll
lll Subs lll
- jonahpach
- Shooting true
- Posts: 872
- Joined: Tue May 23, 2006 10:25 pm
- Location: Aizawl
- Contact:
Re: A Good Reason to Ban Hunting in India!!
Hunting has been banned in India for how many years?? 2 decades?? 3 decades?? We are nowhere near anything that can be classified as a 'success story' in conversation. History hasnt taught us that when we come up with any draconian law that is 'supposed' to eradicate a problem, the very people who are employed to uphold the law are the ones who break them. So who is going to police the government officials and forest guards??eternalme wrote: Hunting is banned already, except for occassional grants for shooting vermin like neel gai.
Rampant deforestation leading to loss of habitat is driving away all the wildlife here in Mizoram. The supreme court has even banned logging and the forest department uses this law to create problems for teak plantation owners who were supported and subsidized by the same department anyway! (By the way in its attempts to 'afforest' Mizoram large tracks of evergreen tropical forests are being cut down and burned by the forest department and land owners to make way for teak )
Since hunting is totally banned in the state, I for one have no legal business to enter the 'forests' of our state and report these misgivings and misdeeds that are being committed under our very noses by the very people who are supposed to uphold the law. So who is going to do it?? A Judge from the supreme court?? Our President??
Jonah
Speak softly and carry a big gun!
-
- Almost at nirvana
- Posts: 216
- Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:33 pm
- Location: South Africa
Re: A Good Reason to Ban Hunting in India!!
I fully agree with you guys, I just wanted to attract your attention towards an incident reported in the local press wherein two hardcore militants (HM Commanders) were killed by a leopard in a forest. If I am not wrong, you guys did not had a look at the link mentioned in my previous post (at the top of this page).
cheers,
tingriman
cheers,
tingriman
-
- Veteran
- Posts: 1497
- Joined: Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:04 pm
- Location: Mumbai
Re: A Good Reason to Ban Hunting in India!!
jashwant
Hunting has been banned for a long time in India and has not helped one bit to protect wildlife. Thats because the poachers and local forest depts are hand in glove and also because of rampant unchecked habitat destruction with the blessings (unholy, I must say) of the system and its officials.
Its a grim situation.......
M.
Hunting has been banned for a long time in India and has not helped one bit to protect wildlife. Thats because the poachers and local forest depts are hand in glove and also because of rampant unchecked habitat destruction with the blessings (unholy, I must say) of the system and its officials.
Its a grim situation.......
M.
jashwantsinh wrote:Yes..i do agree that hunting should be banned completely in India..to ensre protect wild life
As an example of overcoming adversity, Karoly Takacs has few peers. He was part of Hungary’s world champion pistol-shooting team in 1938, when an army grenade exploded, crippling his right hand. Ten years later, having taught himself to shoot with his left, he won two gold medals in the rapid-fire class.
Darr ke aage jeet hai
Darr ke aage jeet hai
-
- Veteran
- Posts: 1427
- Joined: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:15 am
- Location: Shillong-Dimapur
Re: A Good Reason to Ban Hunting in India!!
Hey Jonah,
Long time no tippitytap...
Yaar...bans and the logic behind it is typical of the babu mentality. Anything that requires a little more extra work or thinking simply gets banned....simple as that... path of least resistance!
Its whats killing our country... think about it.
Ah Tingriman,
Poor hizbys.... destined to be leopard turd.
I'm surprised no babu has though up of raising a battalion of 'commando' leopards.
regards,
cc
Long time no tippitytap...
Yaar...bans and the logic behind it is typical of the babu mentality. Anything that requires a little more extra work or thinking simply gets banned....simple as that... path of least resistance!
Its whats killing our country... think about it.
Ah Tingriman,
Poor hizbys.... destined to be leopard turd.
I'm surprised no babu has though up of raising a battalion of 'commando' leopards.
regards,
cc
He who can not think, is a fool; he who will not, a bigot; he who dare not - a slave!
-
- Veteran
- Posts: 1089
- Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:57 pm
- Location: New Delhi
Re: A Good Reason to Ban Hunting in India!!
cottage cheese wrote:
Poor hizbys.... destined to be leopard turd.
I'm surprised no babu has though up of raising a battalion of 'commando' leopards.
Jeff Cooper advocated four basic rules of gun safety:
1) All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.
2) Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
3) Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target.
4) Identify your target, and what is behind it.
1) All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.
2) Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
3) Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target.
4) Identify your target, and what is behind it.
-
- Almost at nirvana
- Posts: 216
- Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:33 pm
- Location: South Africa
Re: A Good Reason to Ban Hunting in India!!
CC, You have a nice point there, might have read a few days ago, that Central Govt. has decided to ban Pre-paid cellphones in J&K with effect from Nov 01, 2009, the reason- Securitycottage cheese wrote:Yaar...bans and the logic behind it is typical of the babu mentality. Anything that requires a little more extra work or thinking simply gets banned....simple as that... path of least resistance!
regards,
tingriman
- tirths
- Shooting true
- Posts: 645
- Joined: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:43 pm
- Location: Ashok Nahar, Chennai
- Vikram
- We post a lot
- Posts: 5109
- Joined: Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:14 am
- Location: Tbilisi,Georgia
Re: A Good Reason to Ban Hunting in India!!
Tingriman, Good one.
Best-
Vikram
As others have noted, hunting is already banned in India.Could you please share with us your views on how far that helped in conserving wildlife and its habitat in India?I am sure quite a few of us are interested.In the rest of the world people say that India's record of failure in conservation is the sorriest in the world.How did that happen?How come countries like Tanzania,Botswana,Namibia or even Zimbabwe have better track record than us?Thank you.jashwantsinh wrote:Yes..i do agree that hunting should be banned completely in India..to ensre protect wild life
Best-
Vikram
It ain’t over ’til it’s over! "Rocky,Rocky,Rocky....."
- timmy
- Old Timer
- Posts: 3030
- Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:03 am
- Location: home on the range
Re: A Good Reason to Ban Hunting in India!!
I believe that saving animals and species is the highest priority, over any other ideological line of thought.
Maintaining the biodiversity of the planet is nothing less than proper stewardship of our own living space, along with everyone else's. Problems can arise from over hunting, as we see with the whaling practices of some nations and over fishing of fishing grounds. There is an environmental limit to how many animals can be harvested from an area.
What I have a problem with is how gun owners and hunters are made the "whipping boys" for our vanishing wildlife. This sort of ban on hunting is nothing more than an ideological "back door" to taking away gun ownership rights.
The fact is, that if gun owners and hunters are going to have to "give" on this issue to meet a crisis, it must be recognized that NO simple minded approach like this will be successful. Other factors that must be taken into account are deforestation (which means that the land developer is going to have to sacrifice) and pollution of the environment (which means that Mr Industrialist and Mr Filthy Liver will have to change their modes of operation).
The point I'm making here is that simply restricting or outright banning of hunting is not going to be a workable solution in the end. Many people who are ideologically opposed to gun ownership like to sell hunting bans and hitch their wagon to the environmental movement -- and make gun owners the bogeyman. However, the effective approach from an environmental perspective is to address the entire range of issues related to a bio zone: range, soil, water, flora, air quality, etc. All of these issues and more must be considered along with how much game is harvested -- if it is not, you can be sure that people posing as environmentalists while advocating only a hunting ban are insincere demagogues, whipping up emotion with shallow appeals. The crime here is that the animals who are supposedly being protected are the real victims.
Here in the USA, sportsmen hunters often have an excellent record on this matter. For instance, the great bulk of conservation and environmental costs related to waterfowl populations is borne by hunters. Great tracts of wetlands in the USA and Canada have been purchased by groups like Ducks Unlimited --- it seems a shame to me that these hunters, who contribute more than their fair share toward environmental health that all enjoy, are not recognized for their contributions because short-sighted ideologues are constantly beating the dead horse of gun control from every possible angle.
Maintaining the biodiversity of the planet is nothing less than proper stewardship of our own living space, along with everyone else's. Problems can arise from over hunting, as we see with the whaling practices of some nations and over fishing of fishing grounds. There is an environmental limit to how many animals can be harvested from an area.
What I have a problem with is how gun owners and hunters are made the "whipping boys" for our vanishing wildlife. This sort of ban on hunting is nothing more than an ideological "back door" to taking away gun ownership rights.
The fact is, that if gun owners and hunters are going to have to "give" on this issue to meet a crisis, it must be recognized that NO simple minded approach like this will be successful. Other factors that must be taken into account are deforestation (which means that the land developer is going to have to sacrifice) and pollution of the environment (which means that Mr Industrialist and Mr Filthy Liver will have to change their modes of operation).
The point I'm making here is that simply restricting or outright banning of hunting is not going to be a workable solution in the end. Many people who are ideologically opposed to gun ownership like to sell hunting bans and hitch their wagon to the environmental movement -- and make gun owners the bogeyman. However, the effective approach from an environmental perspective is to address the entire range of issues related to a bio zone: range, soil, water, flora, air quality, etc. All of these issues and more must be considered along with how much game is harvested -- if it is not, you can be sure that people posing as environmentalists while advocating only a hunting ban are insincere demagogues, whipping up emotion with shallow appeals. The crime here is that the animals who are supposedly being protected are the real victims.
Here in the USA, sportsmen hunters often have an excellent record on this matter. For instance, the great bulk of conservation and environmental costs related to waterfowl populations is borne by hunters. Great tracts of wetlands in the USA and Canada have been purchased by groups like Ducks Unlimited --- it seems a shame to me that these hunters, who contribute more than their fair share toward environmental health that all enjoy, are not recognized for their contributions because short-sighted ideologues are constantly beating the dead horse of gun control from every possible angle.
“Fanaticism consists of redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim.”
saying in the British Royal Navy
saying in the British Royal Navy
-
- Old Timer
- Posts: 2973
- Joined: Wed May 31, 2006 7:28 pm
- Location: US
Re: A Good Reason to Ban Hunting in India!!
tman
Nice one I read the BBC story and you pulled the trigger regarding this Bear or Leapord or maybe Yeti attack. Guess every one missed the pun LOL
cc
maybe they have raised Bear Commondoes a Smokey Bear with bad attitude if US can teach Dolphins remember then why not those 'Madari' guys with bear and monkey maybe they should apply
and for once I agree with hunting ban.
So would a bear attack three guys with AKs per stories knew they can be nasty but againts armed honchos thats a first? Remember that saying never kick a sleeping dog -- stay away from a sleeping Bear too even when its freezing.
And they forgot the cardinal rule that bears are attracted to smell of food and that too Kheer.. "The militants had assault rifles but were taken by surprise - police found the remains of pudding they had made to eat when the bear attacked."
Man this Bear deserves Ashok Chakra or at the least Kirti Chakra..
It aint going good for these HM guys up there in freezing mountain going by the news first that young lady who took as many on and now da Bears. I didnt mean Chicago bears they are having a bad season
Cheers
Nice one I read the BBC story and you pulled the trigger regarding this Bear or Leapord or maybe Yeti attack. Guess every one missed the pun LOL
cc
maybe they have raised Bear Commondoes a Smokey Bear with bad attitude if US can teach Dolphins remember then why not those 'Madari' guys with bear and monkey maybe they should apply
and for once I agree with hunting ban.
So would a bear attack three guys with AKs per stories knew they can be nasty but againts armed honchos thats a first? Remember that saying never kick a sleeping dog -- stay away from a sleeping Bear too even when its freezing.
And they forgot the cardinal rule that bears are attracted to smell of food and that too Kheer.. "The militants had assault rifles but were taken by surprise - police found the remains of pudding they had made to eat when the bear attacked."
Man this Bear deserves Ashok Chakra or at the least Kirti Chakra..
It aint going good for these HM guys up there in freezing mountain going by the news first that young lady who took as many on and now da Bears. I didnt mean Chicago bears they are having a bad season
Cheers
-
- Almost at nirvana
- Posts: 216
- Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:33 pm
- Location: South Africa
Re: A Good Reason to Ban Hunting in India!!
timmy wrote:The point I'm making here is that simply restricting or outright banning of hunting is not going to be a workable solution in the end. Many people who are ideologically opposed to gun ownership like to sell hunting bans and hitch their wagon to the environmental movement -- and make gun owners the bogeyman. However, the effective approach from an environmental perspective is to address the entire range of issues related to a bio zone: range, soil, water, flora, air quality, etc.
Solid point, the most important thing in our context is that until the nexus between the poachers and corrupt forest officials is not checked or put to an end, nothing is going to improve the status of wildlife.
regards,
tingriman
-
- Veteran
- Posts: 1427
- Joined: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:15 am
- Location: Shillong-Dimapur
Re: A Good Reason to Ban Hunting in India!!
That's only for the blue eyed boys.ngrewal wrote: Man this Bear deserves Ashok Chakra or at the least Kirti Chakra..
The bear will probably be provided a job as a SPO at 1500quid a month... seeing how much food can be procured with that much money, it'll be better off in the wild feeding off hizbys....
He who can not think, is a fool; he who will not, a bigot; he who dare not - a slave!