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Airgun with scope mounted on.

Post by mannvikram » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:59 am

Hi everyone,
A question to everyone who has scope mounted on the air
gun. How does it work? I mean.... I worked hard to zero my gun, just like
everyone else, now I can hit one inch diameter target from ten meters
distance, again and again. If the target is 10ft away or 25ft or 10
meters, I don't touch the settings, just shoot away without worrying
about where the pellets will go, and hit the target. Now the question
is, IS THIS THE WAY IT WORKS WITH THE SCOPE? Once its zero, shoot
targets at 10ft or 25ft or 10mtrs without playing with the settings?
And what should be the minimum distance one can shoot at with the
scope?

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Re: Airgun with scope mounted on.

Post by tirths » Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:24 am

Someone already posted this before. http://www.velocitypress.com/air_rifle_ballistics.shtml

This will give your answer.
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Re: Airgun with scope mounted on.

Post by dev » Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:37 pm

Normally if you zero it to shoot about an inch low at ten meters, you should be dead on at 20meters.
Yes it is like the way you have described it, but it will shoot low again at a certain distance and high when you are at 5m or so. The best thing to do is place targets at 5m distances and then shoot one pellet per card and write down where the rifle shoots. You can tape this piece of paper to your rifle scope for future reference.

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Re: Airgun with scope mounted on.

Post by mannvikram » Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:38 pm

Hi
Thanks for reply Tirtha, the link you have posted has all the information about ballistics and pellets but doesn’t answer my question (or at least I couldn’t find what I was supposed to be looking at) thank you.

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Post by snIPer » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:55 pm

The answer to your questions -

Now the question
is, IS THIS THE WAY IT WORKS WITH THE SCOPE?
Once its zero, shoot
targets at 10ft or 25ft or 10mtrs without playing with the settings?

-- Once the scope is zero to a particular range it does not mean that the zero will shift up or down in a matter of a little distance - now this distance can be anything from 5 yards to 15 yards depending on the velocity your airgun is producing - if it is a higher velocity then presumably the trajectory is flatter and your zero can be the same for different distances but if it is a low powered airgun then the pellet will arc sooner and thus a change in zero


And what should be the minimum distance one can shoot at with the
scope?

depends on parallax of the scope you are using.
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Re: Airgun with scope mounted on.

Post by tirths » Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:23 am

mannvikram wrote:Hi
Thanks for reply Tirtha, the link you have posted has all the information about ballistics and pellets but doesn’t answer my question (or at least I couldn’t find what I was supposed to be looking at) thank you.
It didn't? I am surprised!

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Re: Airgun with scope mounted on.

Post by mannvikram » Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:46 pm

Hi
Please forgive my ignorance Tirtha, I guess the answer is not as simple as I was expecting. I will go through the link again, this time will read carefully. Thank you.

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Re: Airgun with scope mounted on.

Post by mannvikram » Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:28 pm

Hi all
Some where along these threads I found a link http://www.straightshooters.com/navagat ... tures.html, under optics, very detailed information about scopes, explained in simple words, makes a lot of sense, to someone new like me. Thanks Tirtha, Dev, and sniper, now its making sense

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Re: Airgun with scope mounted on.

Post by Olly » Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:36 pm

Can you tell us which gun you are firing from... w.r.t. its make and model... you might get a more definite answer if this is known...

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Re: Airgun with scope mounted on.

Post by mannvikram » Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:15 am

Hi Olly
It's an INDIAN made air gun. The brand and model is ESA 95, but as I have mentioned, it shoots pretty straight up to 10 mtrs. The reason behind my query is, I am planning an overseas trip, may be to DUBAI, and buy myself a TX200 with a medium powered spring (and maybe a spare high-powered as well :wink: ), and a nice scope to go with it. Will I be allowed? That’s another question; I am searching the answer for, in these threads. And I have never shot any gun with the scope on. So just trying to find out how it works.

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Re: Airgun with scope mounted on.

Post by Olly » Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:52 pm

A TX200 is a very good powerful gun but I wonder why you consider a medium powered spring ? Usually everybody is looking at enhancing power....

A 'nice scope' would mean a springer rated scope which can take the kick of the spring airgun. You would need to be specific when you buy one...

If you are in Delhi anytime, you are welcome to try out my gun with a scope on, anytime. If this helps you to decide and get one for yourself, it would be well worth the effort ! If you are lucky, you might also be able to try out the TX200 itself...
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Re: Airgun with scope mounted on.

Post by tirths » Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:55 pm

If you decided to for for mid power TX, I am with you. I like shot placement more than energy killing and I found in low power TX or slimier gun, it is much easy to place shot than high power.

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Re: Airgun with scope mounted on.

Post by mannvikram » Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:45 pm

Hi Olly
If I can get away with high powered spring, then no no to medium powered one. It's just because I want to get out of Delhi airport without much trouble. And A spare high powered spring :wink: will do the job later on. I'm not sure about the scope though, I guess I'll need someone to spoon feed me.
Thankx for offer Olly, I'll love to see the gun and scope. what sort of gun and scope do have anyway?

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Re: Airgun with scope mounted on.

Post by Olly » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:25 pm

2 at the moment... a HW-77K Weihrauch and a Benjamin Sheridan Crossman Discovery both in .177

Scope is presently sitting on the Discovery and is a 4x40 Bushmaster...

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Re: Airgun with scope mounted on.

Post by hamiclar01 » Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:02 pm

Eh ? Just where IS this thread heading?

if i may dare to go back to the original topic, i might hesitatingly add that an airgun zero is highly affected by the scope mounting, wind, pellets themselves, shooter's grip (for springers), and shooting position, among other things. As Dev suggests, it will be trial and error with a tinful of pellets before you find out the zeroes for your combo. even they might change if you change any of the variables above.

mannvikram, we are simple people, unable to read between lines much. may i respectfully suggest, that if the real reason for your query is airgun import from dubai, you frame your question accordingly.
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