How much 'Suvidha fees' for getting an arms license

[eternalme]

Greetings,

Recetnly I wanted to apply for arm license in Lucknow, in sports / target shooting quota.
I hold NRA member ship, have travelled widely around the world, and pay very handsome Income tax.
Yet I can't get a license straight ,for, the "suvidha shulk" department doesn't give any shit for my professional standings, Arms act 1959 and ammendments there of.

In short the expenses will be 5k - 10k for rifle license alone, not even talking about a CCW.
The breakup was explained as follows -
2-3 K for the police report,
2K for other "Tahseel reports"
2-4K for presenting the case to the collector.
All this when I am a person of good character , with no crime record what-so-ever, and pay my taxed religiously.

Now this could be my wicked laywer but when I enquired with other fellows they said "don't pay if you want to get the license in a years or forget about the application alltogether."

Has anyone else undergone a similar experience ? Please share.

Regards

[Ticky]

If you are shedding only 5k - 10k to get your license, please!, please!, Consider yourself very lucky.

[eternalme]

Ticky ???

Are you serious ?

I was thinking that its a loot , why should I pay a single penny to some stupid cop and SOB clerk?

If you say it must be right then, 10k for having my rightful license , British would have done something similar, I hope, but in that case it would go to their treasury and not in deep pockets of "baboos" and "B**** jee" .

[Ticky]

Welcome to INDIA 2009! This is what we have made out of our India after the British raaj.

[Sakobav]

Folks

I am locking this thread because we dont condone or support any means to circumvent rules to secure permits. This "suvidha shulk" discussion being locked and under review by the moderators

[mundaire]

Thread is being unlocked, discussing the sorry state of affairs is not against the laws of the land....

Just a note of caution: Members should not get carried away and cross the invisible line here. We cannot allow anyone advising/ assisting someone in contravening the laws of the land, this includes bribery/ corruption, which unfortunately has gotten to be such a daily occurrence that many of us tend to forget that offering/ accepting/ demanding bribes is not only unethical but a crime.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[eternalme]

Many thanks moderators !!
I was only expressing my frustrations about the working of system and was questioning why I have to pay someone and was not pushing the practice.
Its legal to pay one's lawyer no matter how he explains the heads .
I am loving IFG more and more at least we have a place where freedom of speech is respected.
Cheers to all

[goodboy_mentor]

Many thanks to Moderators for unlocking the thread. Yes it is very depressing to hear about such incidences of corruption. Only practical solution what I can think of, if we can some how get rid of/ minimize this "License" raj for arms.

[Olly]

Many thanks to the Moderators for reviewing earlier decisions to block unlawful talk about bribery etc. !

A case in point is the discussion of payment of 'promptness' fee to the babus in DM's Office in Kanpur (for SAF & FGK), which was immediately deleted...

[eternalme]

Update -

My lawyer called me today for getting other informations today to support license thing, so I gave my NRA membership card though i have no idea if NRA is considered or recognized in India or not, though they have presence in ISSF events.
Along with that I attached my professional references, my work experiences, my passport copy, my visas etc.

If still i don't get a license it would be a nightmare.Should I include my tax returns as well ?

Regards

[amk]

Update -

If still i don't get a license it would be a nightmare.Should I include my tax returns as well ?

Regards

Yes.

AMK

[Ticky]

Sorry Moderators for over boarding on this thread (got carried away). If at all something can be done, I personally feel its best to delete this thread.

Regards,
Ticky

[hamiclar01]

Sorry Moderators for over boarding on this thread (got carried away). If at all something can be done, I personally feel its best to delete this thread.

Regards,
Ticky

no no let's carry on and see what people's views/experiences on this are.

[eternalme]

Update :

I am told that income tax return won't do any good, though I thought it would be a significant part of my application as the income tax I pay directly counts towards my contribution in nations wealth.

Anyways that is how its going for now.

Another update is that CCW is straight no to majority of applications, I wonder why is this so, the arms act doesn't mandate a separate handling for CCW applications.

Regards

[mundaire]

Update :

I am told that income tax return won't do any good, though I thought it would be a significant part of my application as the income tax I pay directly counts towards my contribution in nations wealth.

Anyways that is how its going for now.

Another update is that CCW is straight no to majority of applications, I wonder why is this so, the arms act doesn't mandate a separate handling for CCW applications.

Regards

CCW? There is no separate provision/ permission required for concealed carry in India, an arms license is all you require. Someone has misled you...

Cheers!
Abhijeet