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Post by siddu_2u » Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:56 am

after getting the suggestions from abhijeet & prabhat in the other threads
i have changed my mind not 2 go with the remington guns instead i want to buy a diana panther 350 magnum or a panther 31 . which one do u think would be better for me . & which one would suit the conditions we shoot here .
& can some one say whats the maximum velocity ( fps ) to pass the wood test .
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Re: Which airgun should I buy?

Post by pkjeetesh » Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:02 am

Panther31/34 with the straight stock hunting style in .177cal in my opinion is better. I found the gun to be evenly balanced and a dream to shoot at even 80m.On the other hand the 350magnum in same caliber is too powerful and difficult to shoot accurately. The 350mag would fail the deal wood test. That is for sure. At 5m it ripped through a 100mm thick telephone directory and dented a wooden board kept behind the book when we first tested the gun.The panther could manage up to the last few pages of the book.

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Re: Which airgun should I buy?

Post by tirths » Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:38 am

pkjeetesh wrote:. The 350mag would fail the deal wood test. .
25ftlbs fails deal wood test?

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Re: Which airgun should I buy?

Post by pkjeetesh » Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:08 pm

Im not sure then Thirths...but assuming that I use an 8.9gr pointed head pellet and the gun shoots at 1100fps then it would be 23.92ftlbs...the 350 magnum is capable of shooting at that velocity....

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Post by tirths » Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:38 pm

pkjeetesh wrote:Im not sure then Thirths...but assuming that I use an 8.9gr pointed head pellet and the gun shoots at 1100fps then it would be 23.92ftlbs...the 350 magnum is capable of shooting at that velocity....
Do gun makers say, what gr of pellet gives 1100 fps?

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Post by pkjeetesh » Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:19 pm

:D good one thirths...im getting old...maybe i should learn to shut up more on this forum...yet,... one good quizzer that you have always been..irony is that Im not too sure that you know the answers yourself...

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Post by tirths » Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:14 pm

pkjeetesh wrote::D good one thirths...im getting old...maybe i should learn to shut up more on this forum...yet,... one good quizzer that you have always been..irony is that Im not too sure that you know the answers yourself...
He he he. Frankly I don't know the answer. However I know .177 can penetrate more than .22. I have tried 20ftlb .177 on 1" pinewood. It traveled well inside and I have measured and it was little less than 1/4" But when I have shoot on 1/4" wood and passed through it.

The idea here, even if a pellet pass through 1/2" wood that doesn't mean it can pass through 1" due to surface tension, friction..etc.

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Re: Which airgun should I buy?

Post by fantumfan2003 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:27 pm

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Forget the wood deal test. The Police and Customs blokes know the D350 is a magnum air rifle and the person who brings it will face trouble. Besides its a difficult gun to shoot. A D34 is a much better choice.

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pkjeetesh wrote:. The 350mag would fail the deal wood test. .
25ftlbs fails deal wood test?
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Re: Which airgun should I buy?

Post by fantumfan2003 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:30 pm

No they dont but they are most certainly the lighter ones, 6.9 grains or there about.

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pkjeetesh wrote:Im not sure then Thirths...but assuming that I use an 8.9gr pointed head pellet and the gun shoots at 1100fps then it would be 23.92ftlbs...the 350 magnum is capable of shooting at that velocity....
Do gun makers say, what gr of pellet gives 1100 fps?
As an example of overcoming adversity, Karoly Takacs has few peers. He was part of Hungary’s world champion pistol-shooting team in 1938, when an army grenade exploded, crippling his right hand. Ten years later, having taught himself to shoot with his left, he won two gold medals in the rapid-fire class.

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Post by tirths » Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:32 pm

fantumfan2003 wrote:tirths

Forget the wood deal test. The Police and Customs blokes know the D350 is a magnum air rifle and the person who brings it will face trouble. Besides its a difficult gun to shoot. A D34 is a much better choice.

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pkjeetesh wrote:. The 350mag would fail the deal wood test. .
25ftlbs fails deal wood test?
Law is certainly not person based!

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Post by yash3_great » Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:36 pm

What is the standard wood (if any) for the deal-wood test? A lot depends on this factor. Some woods are harder, some are softer, a fresh block of wood would provide more resistance than a seasoned, dry block etc. etc.

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Re: Which airgun should I buy?

Post by fantumfan2003 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:38 pm

Tirths

I don't intend to hijack the good chaps thread.

:agree: Yes, Law should not be person based. But ask that to those who have brought in (personal baggage) a D350 or similar, without "knowing" someone in the P or C and I am sure you will hear a nice fireside tale or two. If you dont, give me a call, I definitely have one for you :D

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Re: Which airgun should I buy?

Post by pkjeetesh » Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:58 pm

the advertised velocity for 350mag .177cal is 1250fps with pba (performance ballistic alloy) pellets...old pine wood 1'' thick would be a sitting duck for this gun at 5m...this gun is being sold at a premium 65K in Hyderabad...I asked him why...he said ....because it is BANNED ?????...I leave the rest to your imagination...

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Re: Which airgun should I buy?

Post by siddu_2u » Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:59 pm

ok guys i want no trouble so i ve decided 2 go with panther 31 , with 1000 fps i cant caliculate the rest i think it would deal the with the wood test .
& i im thinking to go with synthetic stock or but wat ever cause it gives the gun a real hitman or an assassin look .
& i even want 2 know if the stand or bipod & the silencer r allowed ?
& does any one know whats the price in saudi cause it would be more confident for me ask my uncle
thank u all .
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