Rimfire

herb · Post by **herb** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:52 pm

Few days ago I shot my .22 after a very long time. When looked into my ammo bag I realized how ammo options have changed even for the little rimfire. When I was learning to shoot in Belgaum, Karnataka 28 years ago, I used only one kind of ammo, the soft lead . Every time I pick up my BRNO it reminds me of the days when as a boy I played with a rimfire and wish those days would come back.

Few I found in my bag.....

Herb

Post by **Sakobav** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:45 am

What a nice gun Herb

Yes I have pleasant memories of learning to shoot with my grandpas BSA .22 and then Punjab teams Brno's had to remove the wax from .22 KF bullets and for competition we were issued Elly...

Best

diskaon · Post by **diskaon** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:20 am

What is the third one from left called? and whats the advantage of this one.

Are all capable of being fired by the any 0.22 LR rifle??

diskaon.

herb · Post by **herb** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:21 pm

The third one from the left is a Remington Viper hyper velocity. Unlike the others this one is not a softpoint but solid and will not flatten out and fail to penetrate when it hits bone or skull of larger animals (larger for a rimfire).

Yes all of them can be fired from any gun capable of firing the .22 LR.

Herb

marksman · Post by **marksman** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:19 pm

Just some more info. The Remington hyper velocity in the same configuration with a hollow nose is called Yellow Jacket. It was made initially to compete with the then introduced CCI Stingers and later on the solid nose version shown above was introduced. Both happen to give satisfactory results on small game. The accuracy though is not at par with normal 40grn high velocity ammo IMHO.
Marksman.

TenX · Post by **TenX** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:41 am

marksman";p="56208 wrote: ...The accuracy though is not at par with normal 40grn high velocity ammo IMHO.
Marksman.

Maybe...
Matter of fact, in the ammo that I have tried, there is distinctly different grouping sizes between variations of rounds and its batches. I have this thought that there is a fine understanding between a gun's barrel and the ammo used. If they gel, and gel well, there is a nice constant recoil with good accuracy...
I have also noticed that one rifle's (ammo-) grouping is another rifle's (ammo-) spreading

Post by **TwoRivers** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:49 am

Two quick points: A "softpoint" is a jacketed bullet with exposed lead point. Since .22 RF bullets are not jacketed, they are not softpoints, but solids.
While the hyper-velocity .22 RF cartridge are considered less accurate, the can easily be the most accurate load in some rifles. .22 Rimfire rifles are quite particular as to the ammo they do best with. For best accuracy it definitely pays to try every available brand of cartridge . But clean the barrel before switching and don't forget a fouling shot. Cheers.

herb · Post by **herb** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:12 am

TwoRivers - I meant to say hollow point and not soft point, you are correct about the soft point. The viper is specifically referred to as truncated cone solid by Remington and the others as hollow points. There is also one referred to as yellow jacketed.

Remington rimfire specs.

I think the viper is copper plated ? There are jacketed .22 Rimfires (like this .22 WRF) but I have not seen any in .22 LR.

Herb

Post by **TwoRivers** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:24 pm

Herb: Remington also has/had a "Yellowjacket" (=wasp). Remington brass-plates its HV loads; everybody else copper-plates them. There was a genuine jacketed .22 RF load produced during WWII, for the survival gun issued to pilots, to comply with the Geneva convention. Cheer.

TenX · Post by **TenX** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:36 pm

TwoRivers";p="56376 wrote: ... to comply with the Geneva convention. Cheer.

I thought the Geneva convention was not applicable for .22 class of ammo. Only the bigger caliber was supposed to have a jacket... not sure though

Post by **TwoRivers** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:37 pm

TenX: It applies to any bullet used by the military during wartime. Has to be non-expanding in humans. Cheers.

Topgun · Post by **Topgun** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:48 am

hello herb hows life u hav a good collection of cartridges and a very nice weapon, even i m frm Belgaum , Karnataka i hav .22 n do the same wat u use to do were r u located now wud like to get in touch with u u can mail me on [email protected] r u interested in selling ur rounds plss let me know n ur email id or contact add or ph it was nice viewin ur page thanks.

Post by **dev** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:59 am

Topgun wrote:hello herb hows life u hav a good collection of cartridges and a very nice weapon, even i m frm Belgaum , Karnataka i hav .22 n do the same wat u use to do were r u located now wud like to get in touch with u u can mail me on [email protected] r u interested in selling ur rounds plss let me know n ur email id or contact add or ph it was nice viewin ur page thanks.

Please refrain from text speak. It is frowned upon on this board.

Dev

TenX · Post by **TenX** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:15 pm

dev wrote:
Topgun wrote:hello herb hows life u hav a good collection of cartridges and a very nice weapon, even i m frm Belgaum , Karnataka i hav .22 n do the same wat u use to do were r u located now wud like to get in touch with u u can mail me on [email protected] r u interested in selling ur rounds plss let me know n ur email id or contact add or ph it was nice viewin ur page thanks.
Please refrain from text speak. It is frowned upon on this board.

Dev

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herb · Post by **herb** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:54 am

Hi Topgun, I am currently living in Ontario, Canada. Please post pictures of your .22 when you have time.

Herb

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