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the ultimate pistol

Post by adidestroy » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:52 pm

The Ultimate Pistol.
It’s not an official title, but it perfectly describes the Beretta 92FS.
Selected by a multi-national roster of defense and law enforcement organizations, each pistol must pass a battery of more then 3,000 quality control check and measure that includes complete interchangeability of parts before leaving the factory... and proven in the field in countless defensive confrontations, the 92FS is in all respects the “ultimate”.
92 FS. A legendary Firearm.
The most tested and trusted personal defense weapon in history.
The 92FS, designated M9 by the U.S. Military, not only meets or exceeds all U.S. Military testing guidelines, it totally rewrites them.



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Beretta U.S.A. Reliability and Durability Statistics for the Beretta 9mm Pistol
• The average reliability of all M9 pistols tested at Beretta U.S.A. is 17,500 rounds without a stoppage.
• During one test of twelve pistols fired at Beretta U.S.A. before Army supervision, Beretta-made M9 pistols shot 168,000 rounds without a single malfunction.
• The Beretta 9mm pistol was the most reliable of all pistols tested in the 1984 competition which resulted in the award of the M9 contract to Beretta.
• Two-thirds of all M9 pistols endurance tested at Beretta U.S.A. fired 5,000 rounds without a single mal function or, at most, with only one malfunction.
• The average durability of Beretta M9 slides is over 35,000 rounds, the point at which U.S. Army testing ceases.
• The average durability of M9 frames is over 30,000 rounds. The average durability of M9 locking blocks is 22,000 rounds.



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Precise, Safe, Reliable.
92 Series Pistols are semi-automatics and operate on the short recoil, delayed locking block system, which yields a faster cycle time and delivers exceptional accuracy and reliability.
Each features a lightweight, forged frame made form aircraft-quality aluminum alloy.
All 92 series pistols feature unique safety refinements.
On FS models, the manual safety also functions as a decocking lever.
A firing pin block secures the firing pin.
The chamber loaded indicator is visible or can be felt by touch.
Four Operating Systems.
Beretta offers a choice of four operating systems, each with specific safety options:
FS - Double/single action, external ambidextrous manual safety, decocking lever, trigger bar disconnect, rotating firing pin striker, firing pin block device.
DS - Double/single action, external ambidextrous manual safety, trigger bar disconnect, rotating firing pin striker, firing pin block device.
D - Double action only with no safety lever (“slick slide”), firing pin block device.
G - Double/single action, external ambidextrous decocking lever, rotating firing pin striker, trigger bar disconnect, firing pin block device.
All models feature a “chamber loaded” indicator.
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1) Open Slide Design. Open top slide virtually eliminates jamming or stovepiping. Allows the user to load the chamber one cartridge at a time should the magazine be lost or damaged.
2) No Glare Finish. Beretta’s exclusive Bruniton non-reflective matte black finish is a superior corrosion resistant coating.
3) Automatic Firing Pin Block. The front part of the firing pin is blocked from any forward movement until the trigger is pulled completely back. Even if the pistols falls and strikes the ground, muzzle-down, the firing pin will not strike the primer.
4) Ambidextrous Manual Safety. Easily accessible by the thumb of a right- or left-handed shooter, it is spring loaded so it’s either positively “on” or positively “off.” The safety lever on the slide also functions as the pistol’s decocking lever. When pushed down, the rear part of the firing pin (striker) is rotated out of alignment with the front part of the firing pin. (Does not apply to D or G Models).
5) Sure, Firm Grip. The front and back of the grip are grooved, and the grip frame is flared slightly at the base to enhance pointability and control.
6) Reversible Magazine Release Button. Positioned next to the trigger guard for either right- or left-handed shooters. Allows rapid reloading. Magazine drops clear when released.
7) Light Aluminum Frame with Combat-Style Trigger Guard. The trigger guard is squared off and grooved for a firm grip using one or two hands, even when wearing gloves.
8) Disassembly Latch. Conveniently located to simplify field stripping and maintenance, the latch makes the 92 FS one of the easiest guns to disassemble.
9) Unique Ultra-Safe Design. The safety levers on the slide also function as the pistol’s decocking levers. When pushed down, the rear part of the firing pin (striker) is rotated out of alignment with the front part of the firing pin.
A Wide Range of Models.
There is a wide array of 92 pistols from which to select, each with unique features.
92 FS.
The renowned sidearm of US Military is available in caliber 9 mm Parabellum.
92 FS Inox.
This model has a stainless steel slide, barrel, other key components (safety levers, trigger, slide catch lever, etc.) and internal parts. The alloy frame is anodized to match the color and finish of the stainless slide and barrel.
The 92 model feature rubber grips with a new stippled texture and hex key grip screws.
92DS.
Double action only version of the 92FS pistol offering the same safety system of the standard model.
Every time the trigger is pulled, the hammer (with spur removed) is cocked and released.
92 D.
This is double action-only version of the standard 92FS, with no external safety levers (“slick slide”) and the hammer spur removed. Extended side serrations provide a sure grip for fast, easy racking of the slide. D models are as easy to operate as a revolver, with the exact same smooth trigger pull for each shot.

92 FS Vertec.
Derived from the famous 92FS, the new Vertec boasts numerous features to satisfy the needs of law enforcement and special operation military.
The new vertical grip design, special short reach trigger and thin dual textured grip panels guarantee a sure grip and maximum control during rapid fire, even for small handed shooters. An integral accessory rail is built into the frame to attach a variety of flashlights or laser aiming systems. The front sight is removable for the easy installation of different sights or tritium sights meanwhile the magazine well has been aggressively beveled for faster reloads. Manufactured also in the Inox version.




92FS Vertec
Model Caliber Magazine
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92FS Vertec
92FS Vertec Inox 9X19 15 Single/Double 211/8.3 119/4.7 38/1.5 140/5.5 161/6.3 915/32.3


92FS
Model Caliber Magazine
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92FS
92FS Inox 9X19 15 Single/Double 217/8.5 125/4.9 38/1.5 137/5.4 155/6.1 945/33.3


92DS
Model Caliber Magazine
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92DS 9X19 15 Double 217/8.5 125/4.9 38/1.5 137/5.4 155/6.1 930/32.8


92D
Model Caliber Magazine
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92D 9X19 15 Double 217/8.5 125/4.9 36/1.4 137/5.4 155/6.1 920/32.5


92FS Brigadier
Model Caliber Magazine
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92FS Brigadier
92FS Brigadier Inox 9X19 15 Single/Double 217/8.5 125/4.9 38/1.5 140/5.5 161/6.3 970/34.2


92 Compact L
Model Caliber Magazine
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92 Compact L 9X19 10 Single/Double 197/7.8 109/4.3 38/1.5 135/5.3 147/5.8 910/32
92G Elite II.
The new Elite II pistols feature the recontoured slide of the Brigadier model. The slide is stainless steel and boasts removable front sight and Novak type rear sight. The stainless steel barrel is slightly shorter 4.7” (119 mm) for compactness.
The pistol’s grip is grooved to enhance control during firing, the beveled magazine well facilitates rapid reloading, front and rear slide serrations provide a sure grip for fast, easy racking of the slide, the skelotonized hammer reduces lock time and the rubber magazine pad protects the magazine if it is dropped.
Beretta Elite II models are available only in the G configuration (when the lever is released after having been activated to lower the hammer, it automatically returns to the ready-to-fire position).
92 Compact L.
The Compact features a 13-round* high capacity, double stack magazine (9 mm Parabellum caiber). The Type M, variant of 92 Compact L, carries a single stack 8-round magazine, which creates a slimmer profile that’s ideal for individuals with smaller hands.

*For magazine capacity, please refer to specifications.

92 Brigadier FS.
The Brigadier was designed to meet the special needs on the INS* who wanted an accurate, reliable and durable .40 caliber pistol with removable front and rear sights. The pistol incorporates all the high performance characteristics of the traditional 92 Series pistols plus features that are unique to the Brigadier.
The Brigadier’s slide is heavier and recontoured. Because of the heavier slide, the gun’s balance is enhanced and felt recoil is reduced, improving accuracy for follow-up shots. The Brigadier is available, on request, with wrap around, stippled rubber grips and hex key grip screws.

The Brigadier is also manufactured in a stainless steel version (92 Brigadier FS Inox).
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Re: the ultimate pistol

Post by msandhu » Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:44 pm

Beretta 92 is a nice pistol but there are many that are either comparable or better than beretta like Glocks, SA XD's, kimbers, HK's, Sigs etc.. Its no doubt that its a great gun but to say that it is an ultimate gun just because it has been selected by US army is an overstatement. Its a matter of personal choice.

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Re: the ultimate pistol

Post by HydNawab » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:03 pm

I agree with Mandeep.I would choose the HK USP over the Beretta.
'It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger squeeze'.

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Post by HSharief » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:51 am

To each his own, I like the 1911 platform and Glocks and SIGs and any good revolver over the M9.

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Re: the ultimate pistol

Post by kragiesardar » Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:00 am

Do not have one but WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ONE - TERMINATOR STYLE

Calico Liberty III, 9mm pistol. With muzzle break, 50-round magazine, manual. Will accept 100-round magazine.

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This could probably be considered to be the recreational, fun, and plinking version of the Calico, though any firearm which can hold 100 rounds, and fire them as quickly as the trigger can be pulled, should not be taken too lightly. In contrast to the more intricate workings of the 9mm version, the .22 calico has a very simple mechanism. This is the classic, unlocked blowback, of the type found in most of the small .22 rifles and pistols on the market. In contrast to the simplicity of the firing mechanism, the construction of the magazine is among the most complex. The .22 Calico was the original home of the helical wound magazine.

Calico later introduced the 9mm versions, and has also come out with a line of paint ball guns utilizing them. There is also a version of the AK-47 (the Bizon, not made by Calico) which uses an underbarrel mounted helical magazine of the same design. The .22 Calico magazine was the father of them all. The controls of the weapon are simple and logically laid out. There is an ambidextrous safety, a cocking handle on the left hand side, and a bolt hold open inside the upper forward section of the trigger guard. The rifle takes down easily for stowage or transport, by pushing the barrel sleeve forward, and unscrewing the take down nut.

Pistol, and rifle versions of these neat little guns are available, along with a number of accessories. As with the 9mm version, the rifle and pistol variants of the Calico are mechanically identical, and similar in most other respects. The Pistol version is a classic, simple blowback pistol except for the placement of the chamber and the deployment of the magazine. The chamber is a bit farther forward than it would be on a standard pistol. Unlike the 9mm versions, the .22 Calico ejects to the side in the conventional manner, though both calibers feed from the top. The pistol grip is hollow, and empty. The magazine sits atop the receiver rather than in the grip, and is the defining feature of the weapon. These top mounted, helical drum magazines will have their own section. Overall, the guns do not have the fit and finish of the 9mm versions, though they are still well above the standards of the average .22. The construction is of polymer, and metal, and the guns seem tight, and well fitted.

The 100 round magazine was the predecessor to the Calico 9mm mags. This is the original version with the winding knob; later versions had a crank. The knob is given 15 full turns after the magazine is loaded and the initial tension is taken off. Unlike the 9mm magazines, these have no sights molded into them. The sights are mounted, M-16 style, high above the bore. This is done to clear the top mounted magazine, rather than being an attempt at recoil reduction, as it is on the M-16. The plastic bodied magazine has aluminum feed lips, but they are fixed in place, unlike the spring loaded types of the 9mm version. This means that a speed loader can not be used with them as it can with the 9mm mags. There is a row of clear windows on top of the magazine to indicate the number of rounds remaining. In most ways the .22, and 9mm mags are very similar.

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Re: the ultimate pistol

Post by boatme99 » Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:42 am

Colt 1911 Period
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Re: the ultimate pistol

Post by kragiesardar » Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:43 am

Sig 210
The SIG P210 pistol was born from Swiss Army trials for a new military pistol, which were conducted between 1943 and 1947. SIG based its pistols on patents of Charles Petter, bought from France during the late 1930s. Early SIG pistols displayed the clear influence of Petter designs, being copied from his French Mle.1935 pistol. In the search for an ideal military pistol both W+F (State owned arsenal in Bern) and SIG also tried both single-stack and double-stack magazine designs. Interestingly enough, the Swiss army found thick-gripped pistols with double-stack magazines to be less accurate, due to their less comfortable grip; so only single-stack designs competed in the last stage. In the final chase between the W+F 47 and SIG S.P. 47/8 the latter won the trials, and in 1949 it was officially adopted as Selbstladepistole SP/49 (or Pistole 49 for short). Also known as the “Neuhausen” (after the city where pistols were made), the S.P. 47/8 (before adoption of the P210 trade mark in 1957) or under its current commercial designation of SIG P210, this pistol quickly earned the distinction of being the most accurate and most expensive military pistol ever made. Also adopted by the army of Denmark, as well as the West German Border police (BSG - Bundesgrentzschutz) and some Swiss police units, this pistol was later converted with a series of sport modifications, and a great many shooting matches were (and still are) won with this gem of workmanship.

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Re: the ultimate pistol

Post by tanveer bajwa » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:23 pm

are any of hese for sale if any plzz pm details

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Re: the ultimate pistol

Post by m24 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:29 pm

tanveer bajwa wrote:are any of hese for sale if any plzz pm details
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Take it easy chaps it PB grade weapons if Dhoni could why cant others...so hope floats.. :wink:

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1) All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.
2) Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
3) Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target.
4) Identify your target, and what is behind it.

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Re: the ultimate pistol

Post by HydNawab » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:35 pm

m24 wrote:
tanveer bajwa wrote:are any of hese for sale if any plzz pm details
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
:agree:
'It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger squeeze'.

'You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone.'

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Re: the ultimate pistol

Post by eljefe » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:38 pm

There he goes again. Can someone point him to the RTFM and P bore page?

TANVEER, NOW READ THIS
These are PROHIBITED BORE PISTOLS.since you are posting in english, I guess you can read non sms english too?
Some posts are informative, not FOR SALE.These handguns are not allowed in India for civilians-PLEASE READ THE POST, LOCATION OF POSTER etc Lemme try:

dis is fr infrmatn only, nt fr sale in india.please read abt rules b4 you jmp in mth wide open?
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Re: the ultimate pistol

Post by m24 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:43 pm

eljefe wrote: Where's my thorazine??
are any of hese for sale in india, if any plzz pm details.

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Jeff Cooper advocated four basic rules of gun safety:
1) All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.
2) Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
3) Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target.
4) Identify your target, and what is behind it.

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Re: the ultimate pistol

Post by Baljit » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:55 am

i dont know about anybody but i like my 1911 modal and i am happy with that

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Re: the ultimate pistol

Post by cottage cheese » Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:27 pm

msandhu wrote:Beretta 92 is a nice pistol but there are many that are either comparable or better than beretta like Glocks, SA XD's, kimbers, HK's, Sigs etc.. Its no doubt that its a great gun but to say that it is an ultimate gun just because it has been selected by US army is an overstatement. Its a matter of personal choice.

Cheers
Mandeep
:agree:

Not to condemn the 92 but there are others that could exceed US mil spec torture endurance tests.

...in fact if I recall correctly, the SIG226 initially fared better abut lost simply on cost.
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Re: the ultimate pistol

Post by Steve007 » Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:52 pm

The ultimate pistol for what purpose? Military use is not civilian, longevity is not accuracy. And the .32 in your possession in a pocket holster will do you more good than the .45 back home in your nightstand.

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