Airgun import experiences - via personal baggage route

[yash3_great]

Hotshot you are looking for an answer that is specualtive at best,the rule is crystal
clear,you are allowed to import an AR in .177 Cal only,you can bring a .22 but that is
at your own risk.If there is a smart Customs Officer and there are quite a few out there,
the AR you bring in will never leave the airport,even though you fulfill all the requiremets
like a club membership etc.

Now if you have a friend or uncle in the neighbourhood who is willing to oblige as he sees a potential Gold prospect in the future then dont even bother about a .22 get something with even
more zing,it's as simple as that,people do it all the time or atleast those who can.

Mods can you please lock a few threads ( you know the ones ) in the AR section,incl this one, they have been flogged enough,it's getting nowhere the same Q's being asked time and again

Sanjay,

As per the rule and member experiences too, a .22 is allowed via the personal baggage route. Restriction of caliber is only for importing via post.

[Risala]

Yash
Afraid you are wrong mate,there is only one rule and it is pretty clear.
Pl refer to the DGFT Notification one more time.
Here is a link to it.
http://www.nrai.in/not2.pdf

Re member experiences either they got lucky or a few friends just helped them along the way
HTH

[Dr Q]

I have been reading your ideas with some interest. Please always remember that "honesty is the best policy". Never try anything which might make you a "suspect". Whatever caliber AR you bring with you, ALWAYS declare it at the customs.

If you are caught with an imported air rifle without any evidence that you have imported the AR by legal means, you could at best loose the air rifle or at worst face prosecution. When you go through the customs, do not collect the rifle without the paper work. At least get your original invoice stamped by the customs to prove that you have imported the AR legally. "

SIMON

[TenX]

Yash
Afraid you are wrong mate,there is only one rule and it is pretty clear.
Pl refer to the DGFT Notification one more time.
Here is a link to it.
http://www.nrai.in/not2.pdf

Re member experiences either they got lucky or a few friends just helped them along the way
HTH

Sanjay, I think the link that you have mentioned is only for importing an air rifle, and does not hold good for bringing it personally.
As fas as I know, one can bring back either a .177 or a .22 with him/her...

[hamiclar01]

If you are caught with an imported air rifle without any evidence that you have imported the AR by legal means, you could at best loose the air rifle or at worst face prosecution.

while i agree totally with being honest, and transparent in imports/transfers. i fail to understand your statement above.

why would somebody arrest me with a non prohibited pellet gun for which, as per the laws, no license is required. what about the myriad of people living in india who have bought second/third hand foreign air rifles.

anyway, i would agree with sanjay. we need to lock this thread, as it is leading to mere verbal w%*king and a waste of bandwith. all the information is right here for people to read and judge for themselves. if any changes in import policies do occur, we can always unlock it to modify.

also, hotshot my friend, i'd love to hear your explanations to heathrow security and indian customs when you are de-boarded from your flight and asked how a gun barrel was detected in your luggage on x ray. what might have been a simple affair when you declared everything in the beginning may take an ugly turn.

still want to risk it....go ahead. might liven up the tabloid headlines after the depressing economic news carried day after day.

[Dr Q]

I was only reflecting on my conversations with a friend of mine, a gun dealer, during my recent visit to Nagpur.

I suppose it is like driving an imported car after smuggling it !

Forgive me if I am going way over the top on this

simon

[yash3_great]

If you are caught with an imported air rifle without any evidence that you have imported the AR by legal means, you could at best loose the air rifle or at worst face prosecution. When you go through the customs, do not collect the rifle without the paper work. At least get your original invoice stamped by the customs to prove that you have imported the AR legally. "

SIMON

Simon,

Even when you import an Air Rifle by post, the Postal Customs do not give you any sort of paper regarding the clearance or the duty charged.

[Risala]

Yash
Afraid you are wrong mate,there is only one rule and it is pretty clear.
Pl refer to the DGFT Notification one more time.
Here is a link to it.
http://www.nrai.in/not2.pdf

Re member experiences either they got lucky or a few friends just helped them along the way
HTH

Sanjay, I think the link that you have mentioned is only for importing an air rifle, and does not hold good for bringing it personally.
As fas as I know, one can bring back either a .177 or a .22 with him/her...

TenX
I hope you realize that when you bring it in personally from overseas it is considered an import,only thing is that the duty if any payable on the spot,rather then when it is consigned and comes in as cargo.

Pl do not mislead folks by speculating on the interpretation of rules /policies that do not exist,there is only one and it's pretty clear for .177 period

[Dr Q]

Interesting that the customs didn't give you anything.

When I imported my HW 100 caliber, .177 via Nagpur airport, I made sure that I received three pieces of papers, including the receipt for the custom duty that I had to pay( of about RS 8000 ) with the AR number on it, to prove that the rifle was indeed brought in legally into the country.

I did it because HW100 looks like an assault rifle, with a 14 shot magazine and no open sights!! I have consistently shot single hole groups at 45 yards or more in my parents' garden in Nagpur It is an amazing air file...

I still think that it is safer to have some evidence that the AR was cleared by the customs, so, as I said earlier, we should try to get at the lest the original invoice stamped by them.

Cheers

simon

[tirths]

Yash
Afraid you are wrong mate,there is only one rule and it is pretty clear.
Pl refer to the DGFT Notification one more time.
Here is a link to it.
http://www.nrai.in/not2.pdf

Re member experiences either they got lucky or a few friends just helped them along the way
HTH

Sanjay,

I am with you. I am happy to see that you are very clear about the rule defined by DGFT.

I had a sort of debate on this with Abhijeet here :
http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic ... ght=#45914


-Tirtha

[chaitu203]

hi,

i am thinking of asking my brother in law to bring me a gamo cfx from Dubai via personal baggage but some in the forum are saying that rifle club member ship is required and some are saying it is not required and i don't want my bro-in-law to face any trouble so i am asking for conformation confirmation
and other thing is i sent a request to mike melick of flyingdragon rifles this is the reply i got :

The price on the B-40 is $270US including a tune, shipping is $90 for a total of $360US. Thanks for the interest, Mike

after a few days i got this:

I just got in a .177 B-40 in a trade, it's used but in very nice shape( can't tell it from new), price is $210, shipping is $80 for a total of $290 with a tune, Mike

i think it is a pretty good deal but the only problem i am facing is i am not a member of any rifle club so i thought some one might benefit from this, that is why i am attaching the above details

thank you

[archer]

I am flying back home on sat from LA. I will be reachin mumbai on sun eve. I am carrying my HW45 in 0.177 cal with me. I have the other docs that are needed ie rifle membership, DGFT notification, manual.

A question that i had in mind is, do you declare it in the custom forms that you fill in?

regards,
Parag

[TenX]

Parag.. Suggest you declare it at the time of checking in. It would be best if you called your airline to confirm how early you should reach. Once you let the travel desk know of what you are carrying in a hard case, unloaded, preferable in a case that has a lock with duplicate keys or an airline-safe lock, they will ask a security person to check the rifle in front of you. Sometimes they will put in a seal verifying it has been checked. A note will be made in their system.
Also suggest you keep two to three duplicate copies of the Bill, Passport, Notification, Membership.
If you are traveling over Singapore, which I doubt, you should not have any other problems. If you come over Frankfurt, keep your ears open for any announcements. Sometimes and rarely , they screen the baggage and if they have any query, they may request you for another verification.
You dont need to declare anything at customs. If no one stops you in the Indian airport on landing, walk back with a smile... If they do stop, you know what the procedure is

[archer]

hey anand,

I am flying via newark. I checked with continental airlines, they do carry 'firearms' unloaded in a hard case, so thats taken care of. I will inform at the checkin counter about the air pistol.

thanx
regards
Parag

[tirths]

Parag.. Suggest you declare it at the time of checking in.

Yes, they will visually check and keep a note inside which says that it is a unloaded weapon.

It would be best if you called your airline to confirm how early you should reach. Once you let the travel desk know of what you are carrying in a hard case, unloaded, preferable in a case that has a lock with duplicate keys or an airline-safe lock,

Airline safe lock is a must.

You dont need to declare anything at customs. If no one stops you in the Indian airport on landing, walk back with a smile... If they do stop, you know what the procedure is

Carrying restricted item via Green Channel without declaration Think twice. I will never do that. I know there will be lot of trouble but I don't like to be in much bigger trouble. Sorry TenX.