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Re: airgun scope imports

Post by penpusher » Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:58 pm

ai";p="59760 wrote: (C) they are not prohibited, but we must have a licence for the firearm that the silencer in our possesion is meant for
BINGO
ai";p="59760 wrote: Judging by the way this class is going, I'd rather be in jail!
I hope you have a comfortable stay.

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Re: airgun scope imports

Post by ai » Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:15 am

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ai";p="59760 wrote: (C) they are not prohibited, but we must have a licence for the firearm that the silencer in our possesion is meant for
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BINGO

That much you have clarified earlier. What if one has a silencer that is fitted to a non-firearm airgun? No worry?

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Post by TenX » Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:35 am

As far as I know, which may be pretty limited, Night vision is allowed only in the defense, and those outside require special permission. This was supposedly wanted by some people I know in Jungle Lodges for a Tiger census.. and the formality was to approach some govt body for permission. Will post more details if I get.... :)
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Re: airgun scope imports

Post by penpusher » Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:12 pm

Flash hiders and sound modulators are covered by Section 2,sub-section e) (ii).As long a the NVD is not capable of being used as a gun sight,I don't think that there is any restriction on their import.There is even an el cheapo night vision binoculars for sale on e-bay India

http://shop.ebay.in/stores/_W0QQLHQ5fSI ... Categories

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Post by ai » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:43 pm

Sound modulators are mentioned in Schedule 1 below-

Indian Arms Rules 1962
SCHEDULE -I
(See rule 2)


Category Arms Ammunition
1 2 3
I. a) Prohibited arms as defined in Sec. 2(1) (i) and such other arms as the Central Government may, by notification in the Official Gazette, specify to be prohibited arms. Prohibited ammunition as defined in Sec. 2(1) (h) and such other articles as the Central Government may, by notification in the Official Gazette, specify to be prohibited ammunition.

b) [Semi-automatic firearms, other than those included in categories I (c) and III(a), smooth bore guns having barrel of less than 20" in length. Ammunition for arms of category I (b)

c) Blot action or semi-automatic refles of .303" or 7.62 mm. bore of any other bore which can chamber and fire service ammunition of .303" or 7.62 mm. calbire; musket ammunition; pistols, revolvers of carbines of any bore which can chamber .380" and .455" rimmed cartridges or service 9mm. or .445" rimless cartridges]. Ammunition for fire-arms of category I (c).

d) Accessories for any fire-arms designed or adapted to diminish the noise or flash caused by the firing thereof. Nil


http://www.abhijeetsingh.com/arms/india ... ule_I.html

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Post by TenX » Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:56 pm

That is good info... Thanks AI :) (Detailed and to the point, as usual :) )
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Re: airgun scope imports

Post by penpusher » Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:03 pm

You do not need a license for either the flash hider or the sound modulator, if the firearm comes pre-fitted with it from the factory.

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Post by ai » Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:10 pm

TenX";p="59855 wrote:That is good info... Thanks AI :) (Detailed and to the point, as usual :) )
It was right there on IFG in the legal section!
penpusher";p="59857 wrote: You do not need a license for either the flash hider or the sound modulator, if the firearm comes pre-fitted with it from the factory.
To err on the side of caution if at all, let's just say that if anyone is found with a sound supressor, with or without a firearm, he goes straight to jail if it can be demostrated that it is a devise that fits- "Accessories for any fire-arms designed or adapted to diminish the noise or flash caused by the firing thereof". Try asking your nearest dealer if he can supply/buy one, and let us know the facial expression on his face! Should be- :shock:

penpusher";p="59757 wrote: Also,if you have a sound moderator but you don't have a license for the firearm it fits on to,you WILL go to jail
That'll be for having an unlicenced firearm, first. About the firearm being licenced, of course they have to be, and a sound supressor has nothing to do with the legal implications. Then comes the supressor, which means MORE jail. If the firearm is licenced, it still means jail for having a supressor, because it means "Accessories for any fire-arms designed or adapted to diminish the noise or flash caused by the firing thereof". Nobody will bother to check if it was "factory fitted" or not. Moreover, the rule does not have that caveat or exemption for coming pre-fitted.

That still leaves me with my questions- if an airgun that does not require a licence has a silencer meant only for airguns (like the new HW one, and unlike the Theoben Vortex/Evolution), what happens? The rule says "firearms", so by itself, unless specifically meant for firearms, the supressor should be okay. In some countries, even airgun supressors mean BIG trouble. There are case details on the net.

For an idea of legaility in various countries, Check- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressor ... regulation

Anyone knows better?

About NV Scope (where I started before going OT), excercise caution, because if the idea that it is banned is in my head, it has come from somewhere. Let me search for material on it and get back.

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Post by TenX » Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:14 pm

ai";p="59864 wrote:
TenX";p="59855 wrote:That is good info... Thanks AI :) (Detailed and to the point, as usual :) )
It was right there on IFG in the legal section!
Actually... I think I have gone thru that... but you did take the trouble of posting it well... for 'others' to notice... :)
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Re: airgun scope imports

Post by pkjeetesh » Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:47 am

uh oh!...think I kicked up some kinda storm....

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Post by TenX » Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:08 am

pkjeetesh";p="59876 wrote: uh oh!...think I kicked up some kinda storm....
No sweat.. we IFG-ians are too damn used to it... :)
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Post by ai » Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:24 am

[/quote]
Actually... I think I have gone thru that... but you did take the trouble of posting it well... for 'others' to notice... :)[/quote]

Funnily enough, I did a Google search for the Indian Arms Act, and it brought me right back to IFG! We're famous! I might have seen it earlier on IFG too, but didn't remember, just as I cannot remember where I've got that thing on NV scopes. Can't find anything through Internet searches. I hope if anyone has any information, it will come soon and conclude the matter either way.
pkjeetesh";p="59876 wrote: uh oh!...think I kicked up some kinda storm....
Not at all. This particular thread is well aimed at gathering, sharing and debating information. You should see some of our other threads and you'll agree this isn't anything at all except just that. We don't want you or anyone getting caught posessing or importing something you shouldn't. It is sometimes bad enough posessing and importing legitimate stuff as it is!

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Post by TenX » Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:35 am

ai";p="59878 wrote: ...It is sometimes bad enough posessing and importing legitimate stuff as it is!
Ai'nt that the sad truth ...
And about the topics that we discuss in IFG.. well, most Google searches do lead us here, and more than being famous, I am happy we discuss and share such a vast library of information, most being first hand experiences.... Maybe we should start charging Google ... :)
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