POLL : What is the maximum price you would pay

ketan · Post by **ketan** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:57 pm

I totally agree with shahid Bhai.

thanks & regards
ketan

YouTube · Post by **mundaire** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:00 pm

The current MRP for these rifles ranges between INR 2,900 to 3,300 depending on model no./ calibre.

Model 35 (.22 cal) - INR 3,300/-
Model 35 (.177 cal) - INR 3,150/-
Model 25 (.22 cal) - INR 3,000/-
Model 25 (.177 cal) - INR 2,900/-

Source: http://www.aimco.co.in
Cheers!
Abhijeet

shahid · Post by **shahid** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:02 pm

Have not the Chinese Air Guns appeared in the Indian market.

Here in Dubai Al Sayad imports them and sells them pretty cheap for Dhs. 80 to 100 ( Rs. 850 to 1100 ). He also exports container loads of then to Iran, which is the real reson for their imports in the first place. There is some cheap chinese pellets as well,

While driving on the Dhaid - Masafi highway or in the Hatta area I often came across these Chinese airguns being sold in groceries for prices ranging between Dhs. 120 to 150.

In the magazine Air Gun Worls picked up in the UK a few years ago there was even an article with some pics on how to fine tune a Chinese imported Air Riflle.

GasramGandu · Post by **GasramGandu** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:29 pm

A better trigger, synthetic seals, cup washers for the stock screws and a scope rail would be very welcome additions.

The rear sight contains a plastic piece which works loose after a year or two of regular use and causes the rear sight to shift ever so slightly with every shot. This item needs to be made of metal.

All of the above for 6-7K should be a good deal.

Post by **dev** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:17 pm

I shot an IHP for years as it was a marked improvement on my Jodhpur arms under lever. I wouldn't call it POS but I don't shoot springers anymore ever since i got me a gas air rifle.

regards,

dev.

b.baracho · Post by **b.baracho** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:38 am

i bought my 1st national airgun over 20 yrs ago it was very accrute even with our local made pellets .it was a pity to let it go for a cannon air gun which turned out to be a smooth bore i often wounder if at that time parts were imported to build the national air gun.

fantumfan2003 · Post by **fantumfan2003** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:28 pm

My understanding is, the entire machinery and setup to manufacture the Diana Model 25 was imported in 1967 by the then CMD Mr. Walchand who was himself an avid sports shooter.

The IHP Model 35 was a local modification and improvement effort. It is not a direct copy of the Diana 35 as many believe.

OT : IHP also had a sidelever springer and a CO2 .177 air rifle which was actually a copy of a Hammerli design, this one WAS built with imported parts in India.

Manish

b.baracho";p="47128 wrote:i bought my 1st national airgun over 20 yrs ago it was very accrute even with our local made pellets .it was a pity to let it go for a cannon air gun which turned out to be a smooth bore i often wounder if at that time parts were imported to build the national air gun.

ai · Post by ai » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:02 pm

I started shooting with Tommy airguns some 30 years back and used them for over ten years with great satisfaction. Any idea what happened to the company?

b.baracho · Post by **b.baracho** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:35 pm

ai wrote:I started shooting with Tommy airguns some 30 years back and used them for over ten years with great satisfaction. Any idea what happened to the company?

hi bro long time no see I remember that name there was another sidelever air gun sold at Rs300/-
at that time.

bandukbhandar · Post by **bandukbhandar** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:17 pm

Dear IFG members

The Indian Hume Pipe Co. Ltd established its National Rifles Division in or about 1972. They had a technical colloboration with Hammerli then.

They used to manufacture CADET Co2 air rifles, KAHL brand side lever a/r and 25 Model (.177) in break barrel.

Then Late Shri Bahubali Gulabchand used to see over this division. They also gave a running trophy in sports shooting as Walchand Hirachand Trophy.

We have been dealing as their distributors since first day of manufacture.

Cheers

Kezar Husen Bandukwala
M/s Banduk Bhandar
Sahkari Bazar, Gandhi Hall Campus
Indore (MP) 452 007
Ph: 0731 2532146

shahid · Post by **shahid** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:02 pm

National Model 25 and Diana 25 are similar, but the National 35 and Diana 35 are absoltely different products, I think the bigger size piston, spring and other parts were locally designed as are the stock and sights.

badshah0522 · Post by **badshah0522** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:41 pm

bandukbhandar";p="47265 wrote: They had a technical colloboration with Hammerli then.They used to manufacture CADET Co2 air rifles,
We have been dealing as their distributors since first day of manufacture.

Cheers

Kezar Husen Bandukwala
M/s Banduk Bhandar
Sahkari Bazar, Gandhi Hall Campus
Indore (MP) 452 007
Ph: 0731 2532146

Dear Mr Kezar ,nice to hear from you.

I have 2 peices of National Cadet. I love this rifle,it is really accurate and power full.
But from past few months they are having a problem of gas leakege. So i want to know if the spare parts are available,are you dealing in them,,???
Thanks,

YouTube · Post by **mundaire** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:35 pm

badshah0522";p="47295 wrote: Dear Mr Kezar ,nice to hear from you.

I have 2 peices of National Cadet. I love this rifle,it is really accurate and power full.
But from past few months they are having a problem of gas leakege. So i want to know if the spare parts are available,are you dealing in them,,???
Thanks,

If the gas is leaking from the probe in the bolt (the usual problem with this model) then all you need to do is change the small "O" ring after completely disassembling the bolt assembly. Take out the original and scrounge around the bazzars selling industrial parts/ instruments you should be able to find it after a little effort.

If you want I have 3-4 spare "O" rings of this type lying with me, leftover from the days when I used to own a National Cadet myself (back in the 1980's). They are old, but should work alright. There's no charge for them, but you'll need to have them picked up from Delhi though, PM me if you're interested.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

P.S. - I also have an adaptor for this model which allows it to use the small CO2 powerlets in stead of the usual screw in bulk fill, if you want you can have this as well.

badshah0522 · Post by **badshah0522** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:20 am

Thanks a lot Abhijeet,
I already disassembled it,there is fiber O ring (white color) it looks damaged.
I really appriciate your kind help,Whenever i will vsit delhi i will contact you and take the stuff.

For refilling a made a adaptor from soda making machine and also use soda maker cylinder to refill it.Cheap ,easily available and gud results.

At present i m not in India so i will contact you on my next visit.

ronish · Post by **ronish** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:44 am

i would pay a maximum for an ihp , if it is with

1. synthetic piston & breech seal
2.a 2 stage trigger like diana 25d or 27mod--- i think it need only a few parts in extra
3a scope rail -- many cheap indian guns has it
4.shims around pivot joint .
5.a good recoil pad instead of plastic one
6a metel cylinder end cap instead of plastic one.

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