IHP "National" air rifles & pistols

YouTube · Post by **mundaire** » Mon May 26, 2008 1:02 pm

I bought an IHP 25 (.22 cal) from M/s Art Crafts Sales in New Delhi two years or so back - it came with a synthetic parachute type piston washer/ seal.

The breech seal however was a crude black leather/ wood type of affair - I've left it alone for now so not sure as to the exact material used... should not be too difficult to locate a matching O ring and replace it with that...

Cheers!
Abhijeet

shahid · Post by **shahid** » Tue May 27, 2008 12:57 am

What are the 2008 prices for National 35 and 25 models. WOuld someone please post it here.

ronish · Post by **ronish** » Tue May 27, 2008 8:24 am

shahid";p="44473 wrote: What are the 2008 prices for National 35 and 25 models. WOuld someone please post it here.

hi.. mate..these are the prices of ihp (8-5-2008) at trivandrum jacobs armoury kerala, prices includes all sorts of taxes
ihp 35 (.22)----3320 rs
national 35 (.17)--------3240 rs
national 25 (.17)--------3060 rs
jacobs & co is the only authorised dealer of ihp in kerala, & they are very nice in their deals
ronish

ronish · Post by **ronish** » Tue May 27, 2008 8:45 am

mundaire";p="44452 wrote: I bought an IHP 25 (.22 cal) from M/s Art Crafts Sales in New Delhi two years or so back - it came with a synthetic parachute type piston washer/ seal.

The breech seal however was a crude black leather/ wood type of affair - I've left it alone for now so not sure as to the exact material used... should not be too difficult to locate a matching O ring and replace it with that...

Cheers!
Abhijeet

TenX";p="44124 wrote:hi abhijeet .. thanks for the reply , replaced breech seal with an o ring didnt got the same size but had to resize to get a tight fit as tenx told. now getting pretty groups
Hi
Sorry to hear about the 'gap' between the barrel and cylinder.
As long as no air is escaping, there should not be a problem. Just ensure that you always lock the barrel all the way up. This should help solve your accuracy.
The first indication for air leakage is a change in sound and a drop in power (Pellet shoots a few inches below).
I am not sure if IHP send synthetic washers now. The last time I visited IHP factory, they were still using the older washers.
However, I sourced a synthetic tube that is used in photocopying industry and very cheap too. I got like half a feet for 10 rupees. I cut required thickness of this tube and fix them using super-glue. I get a very tigt fit between the barrel/cylinder, as well as the pellet itself. The tube has some inner grooves too, which make it perfect for the pellets to be placed pretty accurately.
The next time I visit these guys from whom I got the synthetic tube, I will try to source a part number so others can buy.
In the mean time, can you try (not suggested, actually):
1. Having two washers in place of one, so that the fit is nice and tight.
2. Alternatives for the washer, like LPG cyliner tube, etc.
I would suggest you do this with someone experienced, and ensure that there is no air gap between the barrel and cylinder.

hi tenx it works .thanks. as automobile shops hesitated to sell a single o ring , i got it from workshop , it was not the same size , but resized & it works well.i found in some other forum ,a tip to find air leake at breech end using talcum powder.

ronish · Post by **ronish** » Tue May 27, 2008 9:07 am

fantumfan2003";p="44449 wrote: Hi Ronish,

Congrats on the new IHP.
Its true the latest IHPs come with synthetic seals.

You might want to try Gsmith Competition pellets for better groupings. They work for me and are not tight fits. Also watch out for your stance and holding in case its adding to the inaccuracy problem.

Rgds

Manish

ronish";p="44117 wrote:
TenX";p="43916 wrote: Congrats on the new stuff.
Hope you are using good pellets. With what consistency you have I don think the trigger is actually doing you much harm... you will soon get used to it
hi.. had no access to net 4 last 3 days ,. tried at 30 mts with g smith ameture pellets, grouping went up to 4" . found out that the barrel has a little play with the cylinder ,there is a space for a thin washer in that area. i think this is the cause for inaccuracy. g smith pellets were very tight in the breech, but easly taking local pellets. gunsmith told that new batches of ihp is with synthetic seals, is it so? has any body stripped recent batches of ihp?.

thanks manish, happy to hear about synthetic seals. after replacing o ring it groups pretty with ameture pellets , next time going to get some gsmith competetion pellets .. ronish

shahid · Post by **shahid** » Tue May 27, 2008 2:43 pm

What is the difference between IHP 35 and National 35 are they two different models ?

YouTube · Post by **mundaire** » Tue May 27, 2008 5:27 pm

shahid";p="44494 wrote: What is the difference between IHP 35 and National 35 are they two different models ?

Both are made by the Indian Hume Pipe Ltd. - the .177 cal versions are termed as the National Model 35, National Model 25 etc. and the .22 cal versions are termed as the IHP Model 35, IHP Model 25 etc. - it's purely a naming convention followed by the company based on the calibre of the rifle in question.

The Model 35 is the larger one with more swept volume and therefore more power. The Model 25 is a junior model with lower power, but more or less identical design.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

ArunSri · Post by **ArunSri** » Thu May 29, 2008 4:30 pm

I am new to IFG. Have enquired many air gun dealer in Bangalore for an IHP National 25/35 (.177 or .22), but none seem to keep stock. Any other make that can give me the same specifications (including price)?

YouTube · Post by **mundaire** » Thu May 29, 2008 4:37 pm

Why don't you just mail order it from Aimco Calcutta? Their prices for the IHP's are competitive and their courier charges seem to be reasonable as well.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

ArunSri · Post by **ArunSri** » Thu May 29, 2008 4:42 pm

Thanks much for the quick revert. Didnt know i could do that. Will do so...

Regards,
Arun

YouTube · Post by **mundaire** » Thu May 29, 2008 5:41 pm

The owner Mr. Joy Biswas is a member here - you can directly send him a PM from this site if you want to contact him. For more see the thread http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?t=2644

Cheers!
Abhijeet

bandukbhandar · Post by **bandukbhandar** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:19 pm

Dear IFG members

We always have IHP 35 in (.22) & (.177) and 25 Model (.177) in stocks.

For rates contact on +91731 2532146

Cheers

Kezar Husen Bandukwala
M/s Banduk Bhandar
Sahkari Bazar, Gandhi Hall Campus
Indore (MP) 452007

ketan · Post by **ketan** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:47 pm

Hi Everybody,

Guys i had received my IHP mod-35 in .22 cal a month back but i am not happy with the power of the same. i had a word with Mr.Prasad Kulkarni of Gsmith & Co he said that the production which is coming now is not good actually there Company is closed & they just wanted to get rid of all the remaining stuff which is pending in there Factory.

Acuraccy is quite good but the power is worst so i request all of the gurus & members of IFG to pls suggest me which spring i should go for my IHP-M-35 in .22 cal or any of you guys have any imported spring or has anybody installed any imported spring in IHP or anybody have any imported spring pls tell me i am ready to buy it.

pls help me my Email ID is [email protected]

Waiting for your reply

Thanks
Ketan

Mandal Aabhari Aahe.

fantumfan2003 · Post by **fantumfan2003** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:50 pm

Hi Ketan

Whats makes you think the power is low ? What do you want to use it for ? My understanding is the latest Mod 35's in .177 with synthetic piston seals and washers is capable of outputing 12 foot pounds. The .22 may be 9 foot pounds which is not bad.

Do let us know

To the best of my knowledge IHP was having problems some time back but they are pretty much on the scene right now.

Rgds

Manish

ketan";p="45842 wrote:Hi Everybody,

Guys i had received my IHP mod-35 in .22 cal a month back but i am not happy with the power of the same. i had a word with Mr.Prasad Kulkarni of Gsmith & Co he said that the production which is coming now is not good actually there Company is closed & they just wanted to get rid of all the remaining stuff which is pending in there Factory.

Acuraccy is quite good but the power is worst so i request all of the gurus & members of IFG to pls suggest me which spring i should go for my IHP-M-35 in .22 cal or any of you guys have any imported spring or has anybody installed any imported spring in IHP or anybody have any imported spring pls tell me i am ready to buy it.

pls help me my Email ID is [email protected]

Waiting for your reply

Thanks
Ketan

Mandal Aabhari Aahe.

shahid · Post by **shahid** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:14 pm

IHP 35 is a medium power Air Rifle and quite good for target and plinking.

If you do wish to increase the velocity go for synthetic washers and better springs available in many gunshops. But an IHP can never shoot like a Diana, got to remember that.

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