Repair Crosman 1377 Classic in Bangalore?

[Mo]

Hi Guys!

My Crosman 1377 Classic .177 Pistol is dead!

It does not pump anymore. The lever just moves without any resistance. I contacted Crosman and they sent me a set of free washers (amazing service - the gun is 8 years old!).

I dont want to give up a pistol that I personally chronoed to find 578 to 617 fps depending on pellet.

But the issue is that, nobody can open it! I dont want to send it to Crosman and die at the customs with their formalities when I get it back! There are no bills or any papers whatsoever. Just the gun, pellets and some Copperheads.

A friend took it to kerala where a gunsmith promised that he can repair it in a jiffy as he was supposedly an expert on air-pistols. Little did I realise that the guy has laid his eyes on only local break barrel pistols and haven't heard of a crosman ever! I hate these guys who talk big when you're on the phone assuming that its just a gun and you're just a kid!

Anyways, my friend is getting it back next week in the same condition and I'm in need of advise!

Help!!

Mo.

[ebenezer]

Hi Mo,

I too have the same problem. I have a .177 Crosman 357 CO2 air pistol which was completely dismantled by a cousin of mine. Some of the parts are missing. I tried to get it repaired everywhere but to no avail. Finally i stumbled upon Royal Gun House in NR Road. The man there promised to get it repaired within 15 days, but charged me 15K, which I thought wasn't worth. So i returned. May be you can try there, of course, without burning your pocket!
Ebenezer.

[mundaire]

Check out the schematics for the 1377 -

http://www.citlink.net/~schattler/1377.htm

And the 357 -

http://www.citlink.net/~schattler/357.htm

If you have the right tools and a slightly mechanical bent of mind you should be able to do it yourself.

For the parts, best to order them from USA in stead of having someone fabricate them here at crazy prices!

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[ebenezer]

Thanks a lot for the info Abhijeet. But how do I order? Can parts be imported? I don't have any idea about this. Please shed some light on this.
Ebenezer.

[mundaire]

Thanks a lot for the info Abhijeet. But how do I order? Can parts be imported? I don't have any idea about this. Please shed some light on this.
Ebenezer.

It really depends on the parts in question. If you are simply ordering O rings like Mo did, should not be a problem. Else you could have them delivered to a friend/ relative in USA and have them bring the parts over the next time they come.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[ebenezer]

Thanks Abhijeet.

[Mo]

@mundaire: Hey Abhijeet! Thanks Bro. I have no qualms about dissassembling it. But the only catch is the tools for the job. I tried coaxing Crosman into it. But they dont sell tools and gave me another email. But that guy hasnt replied yet!! The screws cannot be removed without the right driver Any idea where I can get one? Will somebody be able to fabricate the drivers if they're proprietory to Crosman. I dont think they are though. Else they wouldnt have given me the email..

@ebenezer: Write to crosman about your issue. They're probably the most ethical airgun company!! I'm happy about the free o-rings n I'm telling! However dont expect more expensive parts

Mo.

[mundaire]

Mo, what type of screws are these? I am assuming they are not the usual flat head or Phillips types... are they allen (hexagon shaped) or torx (star shaped) screws? If so, keys for both allen and torx types are made in India and available all over the place.

While I have not had the opportunity to examine one of these air-pistols in person, I would seriously doubt that they use some one-off crossman specific screws... the economics simply don't add up.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[Mo]

By star do you mean something that looks like an asterisk?

The screws on the Crosman look like a square/diamond. Something like the McDonalds toys have. But there's only a couple of screws. But most of them are rivet like! The gun's put together in a really compact way. its like a tightly sealed pipe!! I will post a pic next week.

[mundaire]

By star do you mean something that looks like an asterisk?

Yep

The screws on the Crosman look like a square/diamond. Something like the McDonalds toys have. But there's only a couple of screws. But most of them are rivet like! The gun's put together in a really compact way. its like a tightly sealed pipe!! I will post a pic next week.

By square/ diamond do you mean they would take hexagonal shaped keys? Those are called allen keys... most of the scope mounts also use those. I'm afraid my exposure to McDonalds toys has been very limited... growing up in India during the late 70's-80's meant we had a rather deprived childhood compared to the kids of today

Look forward to the pix...

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[Mo]

lol!! Nooo... Not Allen Keys!

I'm really sound when it comes to technical stuff!! Me and my friends built a hovercraft when we were 17! albeit a small one, it actually worked!! lol. so I know my screws!!

These are actually tilted squares! when you tilt a square, you get something like a diamond right? I mean, take asquare and turn it 45 degrees. what do you get? These screws look like that...

I know about the deprived childhood. But trust me, that childhood is the one with better memories!! I used to cherish my visits to India. People are much more genuine hear. A kid here playing with a cycle tyre and a stick has more fun than somebosy with a radio controlled car!! (Excluded ICE Nitro stuff) lol.. I love those!

[dev]

Hi Guys!

My Crosman 1377 Classic .177 Pistol is dead!

It does not pump anymore. The lever just moves without any resistance. I contacted Crosman and they sent me a set of free washers (amazing service - the gun is 8 years old!).

I dont want to give up a pistol that I personally chronoed to find 578 to 617 fps depending on pellet.

But the issue is that, nobody can open it! I dont want to send it to Crosman and die at the customs with their formalities when I get it back! There are no bills or any papers whatsoever. Just the gun, pellets and some Copperheads.

A friend took it to kerala where a gunsmith promised that he can repair it in a jiffy as he was supposedly an expert on air-pistols. Little did I realise that the guy has laid his eyes on only local break barrel pistols and haven't heard of a crosman ever! I hate these guys who talk big when you're on the phone assuming that its just a gun and you're just a kid!

Anyways, my friend is getting it back next week in the same condition and I'm in need of advise!

Help!!

Mo.

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[Mo]

Wow! Cool!

You have the tools!

Shall we meet up next week?

[mundaire]

Mo, what you seem to have are a relatively uncommon type of screw head - called the Robertson aka square drive. Not sure if you will be able to get keys for this type in India, but it's well worth a try to check out some of the large hand tool stockists in your city.

I know about the deprived childhood. But trust me, that childhood is the one with better memories!!

Sure was... every boy worth his salt had an air-rifle in those days! Not like the wishy washy parents of today who look at you in horror even if you give your son a cap gun! Would be funny if it wasn't so sad...

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[shutzen]

HI! Try one of the socket tool sets - the small ones which come in those plastic boxes and invariably you will fing one that will fit - worked for me most of the times as these sets have a mix of inch and metric sizes along with various sockect types - hex , 8 sided and sloted. just Check and hope it solves your problem