Webley Rebel Air Rifle vs Winchester 1100WS

[alameinite]

Finally zeroed in to these two..avai at Relish sports(both .177)(images encl)
Webley's Rebel is for 11.5k, which is multi-pump,pneumatic type(sort of underlever) and synthetic type.
Winchester's 1100WS is for 10.5k,wooden stock, break barrel type.
Now, I've used break barrel type basic Indian air rifle and not sure about the underlever, multi-pump pneumatic type cocking.
So, again, I fall back to the forum for its kind advice/suggestion.

[GNV]

Dear Alameinite,
From personal experience I suggest you to go for the Break Barrel Air Rifle.I don't know about the current times but I own one Daisy Powerline 881 multi pump pneumatic AR, one Daisy Powerline 880 multi pump pneumatic AR, one Crosman 1322 multi pump pneumatic Air Pistol and one Crosman 357 CO2 Air Pistol in 0.177 cal. All were brough by my sister who lives in USA and received them between 1982 and 1984. All three multi pumps are dead accurate within their limits and were a pleasure to shoot with their recoil-less action. But pumping them multiple times for each shot is a pain in the neck especially for a field shooter/hunter like me when compared to the single stroke required by the break barrel spring piston guns. My first air rifle is a Diana Model - 25 which was given to me by my father when I was 9 yrs old in 1969 with which I learned shooting under the guidance of my elder brother who was then a Sainik School student and was a national NCC shooting champion. Each of the Daisy multi pumps worked well for about 2 yrs flawlessly and then the air release valves started to leak. When the first Daisy failed I wrote to the Daisy Manufacturing Co in those pre internet days asking them to inform me where and how I can get a replacement valve. They replied that they don't sell replacement parts to their customers and that I will have to send the gun to one of their servicing centers in USA for repairs. And along with the reply they sent one valve as a gift by post. After that I used those multi pumps until they developed leaks and then switched back to break barrel spring piston air rifles and got myself a Diana Model-45 in 1986.I could always get replacement springs, Piston Washers, Lube kits etc without any trouble from USA or from friends visiting UK. I was also able to get a silencer for this gun from USA. I had this gun with me till mid 90s when it was stolen from my farm house. And in the early 90s my sister who was living in New York state since 1975 moved to New Jersey State for keeps and settled there since then which is a no gun state. Since then due to the US state laws and then the increased security at Indian airports like X-ray scanning of even the checked in baggage and Indian laws regarding the import of airguns I was unable to get a decent Air gun from USA. When I found that it would be close to impossible for me to legally or otherwise get myself one last decent air gun of my choice in 0.22" cal from USA, with disgust and a broken heart I completely gave up air gun shooting long ago.
And I still have the non functional multi pump pneumatic Air Guns and Pistol as Show Pieces with me.

In short my advice is to stay away from Multi Pump Pneumatic and PCP air guns UNLESS you have a reliable source from which you can get ALL the parts required for maintenance of those ( especially those exotic PCPs which cost a fortune to buy not only the gun but also the required accessories to keep it functional and maintain it properly ) when ever you need them.

Better to go for a decent Spring Piston / Nitro Piston break barrel Air Rifle of your choice within your budget. You could get spares for these locally at somewhat higher prices or if you have an international credit card you could get them from abroad by post.

Regards.

[andy_65_in]

I agree with gnv-all these fancy airguns u buy here in india finally are a let down for spare parts/service etc,so be careful with what you buy

[alameinite]

Thanks a ton for the valuable advice. I am planning for an IHP now.

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[bennedose]

That was a wise and briliant post GNV. I have found that similar advice can be applied to a lot of tricky items that are used for some sort of precision work (shooting is precision work) but fall flat when it comes to spares/maintenance. I am referring ro certain types of expensive surgical equipment for which is far better to go for something less fancy and easier to maintain.

Range, power and muzzle velocity are very very personal preferences - like a perfume one might choose. But physics is physics and if your shooting range does not exceed 10 meters a weapon that claims to be a hunting rifle at 30 meters is of little use. Ultimately, 10 meters or 30 meters it is only accuracy that counts given that we are not searching for 1 shot "humane" kill weapons in India. The appearance of at least one company with a nitro-piston gives me great hope that other companies' business will get affected enough for them to wake up or close down like the Standard Herald car factory.

I once had an underlever air rifle. It was years before I discovered that it had no rifling. A rifle with no rifling is completely useless for anything that calls for accurate shooting.