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Post by axp817 » Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:35 am

HSharief wrote:Recruiting our North East buddies !!!

so its not too bad of a drive from the from the guys in the North east US.
I like :)

I have a lot of personal and work travel scheduled for the fall, and trips to the Midwest might not work out for me. But Ohio or any place east of it should/might work.

Naren, Salem, New Hampshire. Can drive/fly in the Northeast except, travelling most of October though.

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Post by mehulkamdar » Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:13 pm

Gentlemen,

We have six people interested in this hunt so far. Let me see if I can rope in a few friends in Wisconsin. Anyone here who has friends who may join could also invite them - as Sharief says, we could negotiate better rates if we have a group of 10 or more members.

Again, I am absolutely fine with any place in the US - driving is something I enjoy and I would be happy to pick up someone who is averse to driving enroute and dropping them back after the hunt.

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Post by conty1 » Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:40 pm

Guys... lets 'rush' and get the dates and the venue finalised.... its already started getting 'cold' here in chicago... :roll:

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Post by kanwar76 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:53 pm

Can people coming to US on business Visas(B1) hunt legally and can they rent shotguns for hunting?

Just curious :oops:

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Post by axp817 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:14 pm

Can people coming to US on business Visas(B1) hunt legally and can they rent shotguns for hunting?

Yes, If you have a valid hunting license/permit issued in any State in the United States.

To get a hunting license, most (probably all) States require a hunter safety education course certification. The course is easy, and is very inexpensive (free or $2) but takes 2-3 days to complete and is only offered once a month or so.

Some states might offer "one day" hunting licenses, not sure if those require hunter's ed. certification.

Hunting on private preserves might not require a license, but you might want to check.

Having a hunting license/permit will allow you to rent a firearm.

But if you are on a non-immigrant visa (H1B, H4B, B1/B2, F1, etc.) you are required by federal law to be in possession of a valid US issued hunting license to possess firearms (even rent/loan), without a valid hunting license, a non-immigrant alien's possession of a firearm is illegal.

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Post by kanwar76 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:57 pm

Thanks Naren for a very informative post,

I found some information on the hunter safety education course certification like its a 10 hour course and curriculum of the course. Can you please guide How can someone look for the schedule for some area like Naperville in Chicago?

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Post by axp817 » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:31 pm

you are very welcome Kanwar, always glad to help.

http://dnr.state.il.us/safety/hunt.htm

The link above, gives information on hunter safety ed. requirements in the state of Illinois.

I am not familiar with IL but some quick searching on google maps tells me that Naperville is in the Will or DuPage counties.

The link below has the schedule for hunter's ed courses in these counties.

http://dnr.state.il.us/lands/education/ ... 1/Reg1.htm

As I suspected, they are free, so if you get a chance and you can fit this into your schedule, I highly recommend you take it.

Advantages
- Lots of VERY GOOD INFO on hunting techniques, safety, shot placement, survival techniques, everything you can imagine
- Free study material
- Most important of all, you will be able to use your hunter's education certification in any State in the US to get a hunting permit/license. Like I stated before, almost all states require hunter's ed certification to issue licenses.
- It is good for life, and you can get hunting licenses for any year and any State in the US.
- It will also allow you to borrow firearms from a friend (if you have a friend who has guns) to take to a range in the US (provided there are no State laws against non-citizens possessing guns, e.g. NH). Please be aware that possession of firearms by non immigrant aliens without a hunting permit, even if the firearms are only for range shooting and not hunting, is illegal. The only exception is if you go to a public range where you can rent weapons to use on their facility alone.

Feel absolutely free if you have any more questions or need any help,

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Post by mehulkamdar » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:49 am

Inder,

We haven't got anything organised yet, though I am hopeful that something would be, very soon.

As far as the hunter safety courses are concerned, there are separate ones for gun and bow hunting and many gun stores like Gander Mountain not to mention most rifle clubs conduct them. There are dates before the season begins for which participants could register and get the certification required.

That said, people born before 1968 are grandfathered into the process and do not require hunter safety training in most states of the US, though if you plan to hunt on private land, most land owners would require that you have this certificate.

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Post by kanwar76 » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:29 pm

Hey thanks Naren,

Napperville falls under Dupage county.I already mailed Cynthia(Volunteer Services Coordinator) and even got a reply from her. She advised me to keep checking DNR wesite. Let's see if something comes up.

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Post by kanwar76 » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:33 pm

Mehul,

I am going for US visa interview this month and IF I get the visa then I will be traveling soon. Stay will be around three months. So I was thinking if i can get some Upland Bird Hunting, Lets see what Kismat have in store for me :)

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Post by axp817 » Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:14 pm

Inder,
3 months is a long time, good luck with the visa.

Even if you don't get a chance to go hunting, you should definitely think of taking the course. It will teach you A LOT, is free, and the certificate can be used throughout your life, without having to renew
Other countries accept this certification too.

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Post by kanwar76 » Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:39 pm

Yah Naren,

Will surely do that. Knowledge is never BAD. Also planning to shoot some clay during my visit and I think for that also I need this certification.

Let?s see how it goes, Thanks once again for your help

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Post by axp817 » Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:32 pm

"Also planning to shoot some clay during my visit"

Good idea.

My father lives in India and owns guns there, but Ahmedabad doesn't have any trap facilities and he unfortunately, never gets to do trap. He will be here this weekend, and we definitely have trap on the agenda.

It is fairly inexpensive too.


"and I think for that also I need this certification"

Yes, shooting clay is not offered at most of the ranges that rent out weapons to use on their facilities under supervision. Such places (e.g. gunsnh.com) usually only rent indoor stuff (handguns, rifles, Sub machine guns). Such places don't require a hunting license since you are shooting on their facility only, and under their supervision. Shooting clay is usually done at gun clubs, where the club "allows" you to use their guns, so a non-member/non gun owner can enjoy some trap.

The club usually doesn't ask for permits/or any sort of i.d. when they are letting a new fella shoot some trap at their club.

But the ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives) rules say that all non-immigrant aliens possessing firearms should have a hunting license/permit. So to be on the safe side, it is best to have a hunting permit, which can only be obtained if you have hunter's ed. certification.

So, to answer your question, Yes, it would be best to have a hunting permit if you plan on shooting some clay here.

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Post by kanwar76 » Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:23 pm

axp817 wrote:"It is fairly inexpensive too.
When You talk inexpensive.. How much 1 day at range with around 100 shots going to cost (Curious once again :oops: )
axp817 wrote:(e.g. gunsnh.com)
You just added one more thing in my itinerary :D. I am sure I am going to return with a huge visa bill :(
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