Your expert comments on this Pech Kabach

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Your expert comments on this Pech Kabach

Post by Nihangsingh » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:08 am

I have recently clicked some Pics of a Pech Kabach. A friend of mine has it. There is a beautiful pattern on the Blade probably due to the mixing of metals. the handle is full tang, made of wood. It holds most of its weight in the handle and it makes it very fast and easy to use. that is as far as my observation goes. However I would request some further comments from the members on its make, the type of metal used, the shape of the blade and handle etc. Please contibute.
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Re: Your expert comments on this Pech Kabach

Post by discovershashank » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:42 am

Hi,
Please have mercy on people like me who have a slow data connection :( . Would be great if you can post few pics in lower resolutions for faster download.

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Re: Your expert comments on this Pech Kabach

Post by farook » Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:37 pm

Nihangsingh wrote:I have recently clicked some Pics of a Pech Kabach. A friend of mine has it. There is a beautiful pattern on the Blade probably due to the mixing of metals. the handle is full tang, made of wood. It holds most of its weight in the handle and it makes it very fast and easy to use. that is as far as my observation goes. However I would request some further comments from the members on its make, the type of metal used, the shape of the blade and handle etc. Please contibute.

Though its difficult to confirm without holding the dagger, guessing from the pattern it may be Damascus Steel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_steel
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Re: Your expert comments on this Pech Kabach

Post by Nihangsingh » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:27 pm

a few more pics guys
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Re: Your expert comments on this Pech Kabach

Post by Nihangsingh » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:34 pm

[quote="discovershashank"]Hi,
Please have mercy on people like me who have a slow data connection :( . Would be great if you can post few pics in lower resolutions for faster download.

Hi there,
I am sorry for your internet connection :wink: but these are the only pics that I have and I don`t know how to make them of low resolution. So for the time being I can only hope that you are able to see them as they are :) Though I will try nd post pics of lower resolution next time.
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Re: Your expert comments on this Pech Kabach

Post by anonymusneo » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:45 pm

the blade seems like is a damascus pattern weilded blade , (Not damascus steel)
it means the steel used was folded again n again to get this pattern and finally etched.

it seems fine, but i dont like the tip of the blade , its mainly used to pierce armour but this one is lacking in the main field

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Re: Your expert comments on this Pech Kabach

Post by farook » Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:59 pm

Nihangsingh wrote:a few more pics guys
If its heavy for its size then it must be Damascus steel
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Re: Your expert comments on this Pech Kabach

Post by TwoRivers » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:03 pm

This seems to be a modern knife, the traditional Irano-Afghan pech qabs, designed for penetrating chain mail armor, has a straight blade, and different style handle designed to prevent slipping. Usually of camel bone. Also, the hollow rivets on the handle are modern. The damascus steel is of a coarser pattern than I have seen on the old ones. But a nicely done blade.

P.S.: There are no "heavy" or "light" steels. All steels weigh pretty much the same. Alloying elements are in such small amounts that they do not noticeable affect steel's specific density.

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Re: Your expert comments on this Pech Kabach

Post by pistolero » Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:05 am

To me it looks like a modern reproduction.

The blade smith has tried to copy a Pesh Kabz/Choora, however the end result is a more modern looking knife.

Blade is some sort of Sakela/Pattern Blade, the patina is fairly modern.

I hope your friend did not pay a lot for it.

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Re: Your expert comments on this Pech Kabach

Post by Moin. » Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:17 pm

Agree with Pistolero. A modern reproduction of the Indo Persian Pesh Kabz Design. Too crude a handle to be made in Rajasthan. Looks like something made in Amritsar perhaps...
The metal has been very nicely 'scalloped' to give it the distinctive spine.
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Re: Your expert comments on this Pech Kabach

Post by Katana » Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:47 pm

Newly made, although it could have been done better. To understand it's manufacture please read Moin's thread on buying sharpies in Rajuland (Rajasthan ;) )
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Re: Your expert comments on this Pech Kabach

Post by Nihangsingh » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:35 pm

pistolero wrote:To me it looks like a modern reproduction.

The blade smith has tried to copy a Pesh Kabz/Choora, however the end result is a more modern looking knife.

Blade is some sort of Sakela/Pattern Blade, the patina is fairly modern.

I hope your friend did not pay a lot for it.

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Dear Pistolero,

I do agree with you. It is indeed a modern reproduction. The tip is also not strong enough to pierce a chain mail, if need be. However, the metal does not feel like sakela as it is too soft for the name.

My friend did pay something but not much to avoid any future remorse though :)

Thanks for your comments
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Re: Your expert comments on this Pech Kabach

Post by akiyatan » Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:47 pm

The Blade is Damascus blade or Sakela and the Johar or the pattern is due to mixing!
Its a newly made Peshkabz and would probably be known more as Tota pari!
Could have used Swamp Deer handle instead of wood for better look and finishing.

Wouldnt cost more than a grand.

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Re: Your expert comments on this Pech Kabach

Post by Nihangsingh » Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:27 am

Thank you all for your valuable comments.
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Re: Your expert comments on this Pech Kabach

Post by Adrian Mario Cooke » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:14 am

Hi,
The pattern on the blade looks like Damascus steel which is got by melting steel and carbon and then cooling and forging the blade. It is stronger and holds a great edge.However the pics are not very clear and the same pattern can be done with acid etching.
If it is an original Damacus forged dagger then its a great knife to have.
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