Friends,
An old buddy in Tamilnadu has a Mannlicher rifle in 7x57 with a shot out barrel. It has been in his family for almost a century. He would like to virtually give it to me as he is not in a position to take it out of the country and get it rebarreled etc. I am looking at the process of doing just that and have sent feelers to some people to help with information on the formalities involved in India, but the pressing worry is how much should I pay him? The character is not naming any figure and I don't want to be unfair in what I give him...
This rifle will, most probably be bought in my wife's name and return with us to India after it receives a full makeover in either the US or the UK.
Thanks for advice and suggestions in advance,
Mehul
What would be a fair price to offer for a Mannlicher?
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Mack The Knife
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The only Mannlicher Schoenauer sale that I know of in recent times in Bangalore was for 2.5 lakhs. However, the rifle is in good nick and in the much coveted .30-06 calibre.
You can either give him 2.5 lakhs minus all the incurred expenses (postage, rebarreling, blueing, stock re-chequering and oiling, etc.) or give him Rs.25,000/-.
It must have cost his ancestor no more than a few hundred Rupees, if that.
Frankly, the first option is quite ridiculous given that you have easy access to rifles. How much would such a rifle, in good nick, cost in the U.S.? Once you have this figure, you could decide what you would like to pay for the one in Chennai. This seems to be a fairer way, to both parties, to go about it.
Mack The Knife
You can either give him 2.5 lakhs minus all the incurred expenses (postage, rebarreling, blueing, stock re-chequering and oiling, etc.) or give him Rs.25,000/-.
It must have cost his ancestor no more than a few hundred Rupees, if that.
Frankly, the first option is quite ridiculous given that you have easy access to rifles. How much would such a rifle, in good nick, cost in the U.S.? Once you have this figure, you could decide what you would like to pay for the one in Chennai. This seems to be a fairer way, to both parties, to go about it.
Mack The Knife
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mehulkamdar
Mack The Knife,
The point is simple - this gun is registered in India. It could be enhanced and brought back - that would not affect the three gun import limit. I can buy any number of guns over here, but the laws in India are not set to change anytime soon, certainly not with the present band of fascists who made the 1984 laws being in power as they are at the moment.
Cheers,
Mehul
The point is simple - this gun is registered in India. It could be enhanced and brought back - that would not affect the three gun import limit. I can buy any number of guns over here, but the laws in India are not set to change anytime soon, certainly not with the present band of fascists who made the 1984 laws being in power as they are at the moment.
Cheers,
Mehul
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Mack The Knife
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Sorry Mehul but I don't think I understand what you are getting at.
What would such a rifle, in better and useable condition, cost in the U.S.?
Once you know that, you can decide for yourself what this one is worth to you.
Mack The Knife
What would such a rifle, in better and useable condition, cost in the U.S.?
Once you know that, you can decide for yourself what this one is worth to you.
Is one allowed three firearms on TR?that would not affect the three gun import limit.
Mack The Knife
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mehulkamdar
Mack The Knife,
1. This rifle is in India, registered there. Bringing it to the USA, rebarreling and returning it to India would not constitute an import
2. The "three gun" is my mistake - it would not affect the import limit of two guns in total that my wife and I would bring back as this would be a gun from India that was enhanced with a new barrel here. Hence three guns coming back to India with us instead of two
3. I can buy any number of guns here but India's three gun limit and the restriction on how many guns I could bring back will not permit me to bring any good stuff with me
Best wishes,
Mehul
1. This rifle is in India, registered there. Bringing it to the USA, rebarreling and returning it to India would not constitute an import
2. The "three gun" is my mistake - it would not affect the import limit of two guns in total that my wife and I would bring back as this would be a gun from India that was enhanced with a new barrel here. Hence three guns coming back to India with us instead of two
3. I can buy any number of guns here but India's three gun limit and the restriction on how many guns I could bring back will not permit me to bring any good stuff with me
Best wishes,
Mehul
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Thanks, it's clearer now.
I would have this rifle sent back via post or courier rather than bring it back with the Auto5 (don't see you leaving that behind) and whatever happens to be the second firearm. It's going to be difficult enough clearing the two without the added hassles and dare I say, confusion caused by a third.
Have you retained your Indian arms licence and does it have a slot for a rifle and shotgun on it.
Can you apply for an Indian arms licence at the Indian embassy in D.C.? I assume Preethi will need one.
Coming back to the original question, what do you think of my suggestion - What would such a rifle, in better and useable condition, cost in the U.S.? Once you know that, you can decide for yourself what this one is worth, taking into account all expenses and any hassles. ?
Mack The Knife
I would have this rifle sent back via post or courier rather than bring it back with the Auto5 (don't see you leaving that behind) and whatever happens to be the second firearm. It's going to be difficult enough clearing the two without the added hassles and dare I say, confusion caused by a third.
Have you retained your Indian arms licence and does it have a slot for a rifle and shotgun on it.
Can you apply for an Indian arms licence at the Indian embassy in D.C.? I assume Preethi will need one.
Coming back to the original question, what do you think of my suggestion - What would such a rifle, in better and useable condition, cost in the U.S.? Once you know that, you can decide for yourself what this one is worth, taking into account all expenses and any hassles. ?
Mack The Knife
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Mehul and Mack The Knife,
I regularly see M-S rifles on auction that cost between
450-7000 GBP depending on the seller's greed. I see a nice M72 .270 made in 1975 for 495GBP.It's scoped and the wood looks good.
Mehul, looking at the present conditions, a better route would be to find a nice rifle and buy it in India than go through all the rigmaroles of the bureaucratic procedures. From the feedback on AR, it looks like the restoration project may run into a lot of expenditure.
Best-
Vikram
I regularly see M-S rifles on auction that cost between
450-7000 GBP depending on the seller's greed. I see a nice M72 .270 made in 1975 for 495GBP.It's scoped and the wood looks good.
Mehul, looking at the present conditions, a better route would be to find a nice rifle and buy it in India than go through all the rigmaroles of the bureaucratic procedures. From the feedback on AR, it looks like the restoration project may run into a lot of expenditure.
Best-
Vikram
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Mack The Knife,
This would be in my wife's name. She will be visiting India shortly and I shall be talking to the officer concerned at EGmore.
Vikram,
Many of the AR members are a helpful lot but not many of them are familiar with Mannlichers. I talked to Grumpy when he was here for two days and Johan has also given me some very useful advice. I hope to buy the rifle and get the paperwork worked out sometime early in 2007 for starting the process. Suffice it to say that my friend is virtually giving it away - my initial question on how much to offer him has worked out pointless and I am looking forward to inviting him and his family here to reciprocate.
Mehul
This would be in my wife's name. She will be visiting India shortly and I shall be talking to the officer concerned at EGmore.
Vikram,
Many of the AR members are a helpful lot but not many of them are familiar with Mannlichers. I talked to Grumpy when he was here for two days and Johan has also given me some very useful advice. I hope to buy the rifle and get the paperwork worked out sometime early in 2007 for starting the process. Suffice it to say that my friend is virtually giving it away - my initial question on how much to offer him has worked out pointless and I am looking forward to inviting him and his family here to reciprocate.
Mehul
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Re: What would be a fair price to offer for a Mannlicher?
My cousin last week bought a 30-06 Winchester model 70?? likely for Rs 2.15 Lakhs 
. he traded his SW Pump Action and bought the rifle.
. he traded his SW Pump Action and bought the rifle.-
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Re: What would be a fair price to offer for a Mannlicher?
Mehul,
Spoke 2 a few customs officers in mumbai, here's the gist.
As of today only 1 weapon is allowed per family unit in TR rules. The weapon cannot be sold, gifted, lent or transfered. Permission to sell will be granted only on death of the licensee. If license is cancelled due to several factor not including death of licensee, then the said weapon has to be deposited in the customs armoury at the port of arrival with prior permission of the asst or deputy commissioner of customs at the point of entry.
Duty on TR import of weapon is 25%. not 150% as some have said.
Original sales receipt of the weapon proving use for more than a year is useful. A suggestion of the officer was to get it stamped at the local indian embassy for date verification purpose.
will keep u posted on more info as it comes my way.
and ya getting Mannlicher 7mm exported and back is a bad idea.
rather get a better 3006 or 308 or 7mm from abroad.
Monish
Spoke 2 a few customs officers in mumbai, here's the gist.
As of today only 1 weapon is allowed per family unit in TR rules. The weapon cannot be sold, gifted, lent or transfered. Permission to sell will be granted only on death of the licensee. If license is cancelled due to several factor not including death of licensee, then the said weapon has to be deposited in the customs armoury at the port of arrival with prior permission of the asst or deputy commissioner of customs at the point of entry.
Duty on TR import of weapon is 25%. not 150% as some have said.
Original sales receipt of the weapon proving use for more than a year is useful. A suggestion of the officer was to get it stamped at the local indian embassy for date verification purpose.
will keep u posted on more info as it comes my way.
and ya getting Mannlicher 7mm exported and back is a bad idea.
rather get a better 3006 or 308 or 7mm from abroad.
Monish