Indian Edged Weapons in the Prince of Wales Museum

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Re: Indian Edged Weapons in the Prince of Wales Museum

Post by Moin. » Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:46 pm

Now for some very very interesting hilt types

I was so intrigued by this first sword. What appears to be the entire timur dynasty on the blade. The pics is not very clear and mum could not read the inscriptions.

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Re: Indian Edged Weapons in the Prince of Wales Museum

Post by Moin. » Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:49 pm

airgun_novice wrote:Dear Moin,

BTW, I first read the plaque as "Faulad par sone ki peechkari" - and I was like "WOW" :lol:

It's indeed a six-pointed star (not the 5-pointed "Path of Venus") - plus what's written inside in Farsi would be interesting. For some reason I wish our school Hindi teacher, Shri Tripathi were alive - he was a master of Urdu, Arabic and Farsi but still taught Hindi at our high school level. Most of us never realized his worth when he was alive.

Anyway, now that the star is indeed 6-pointed we are back to square one - Jewish gift or Rajput dowry ? Depiction of moustached Sun with "U-shaped" Vishnu/ Aditya tilak => definitely Indian.

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Re: Indian Edged Weapons in the Prince of Wales Museum

Post by Moin. » Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:51 pm

essdee1972 wrote:Moin, I don't think me + SLR + tripod can better you + cellphone!! Awesome, man!!

AGN, what an analysis, just looking at the photos!!! I think we'll have to schedule 2-3 days at CSVS - Day 1 - photography, Day 2 - Moin gives a who's who presentation (for me, the only shape I instantly recognise is a Khukri!!), Day 3 - AGN lectures on the likely historical significance of the swords, shields, etc.

Thank you Sdda, but I know little to do this. :) I'm waiating for Katanaji to analayse the pics and comment.

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Re: Indian Edged Weapons in the Prince of Wales Museum

Post by Moin. » Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:53 pm

Vikram wrote:Moin,my man, you did a fantastic job with this thread. Thank you very much for treating us to this historical treasure.Very educative and hugely enjoyable.


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Post by xl_target » Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:56 pm

Wah! Wah! Moin
What an incredible job.
Thanks for taking the time to take and share those images with us.
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Re: Indian Edged Weapons in the Prince of Wales Museum

Post by Bruno22 » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:05 pm

Wounderful stuff Moin, been there so often but never had such a detailed insight. They also have a small collection of T'subas (hope I got that right) which are the guards on the samurai swords.
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Re: Indian Edged Weapons in the Prince of Wales Museum

Post by Skyman » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:30 pm

My dear fellow, you have truly outdone yourself! This should be made a sticky, and you Mumbai wallas should get him a keg of beer ( Or whatever he drinks ).Or get him something nice.

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Re: Indian Edged Weapons in the Prince of Wales Museum

Post by Moin. » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:34 pm

Sosun Patas

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Notice the "T" Spine in all the Patas

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Post by Moin. » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:41 pm

The most amazing hilts in these display panels

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This appears to be of solid silver with kundankaari work

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The most amazing hilt ever !!!!!

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Re: Indian Edged Weapons in the Prince of Wales Museum

Post by Moin. » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:02 pm

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Swords by famous bladesmiths. Their names and makers marks are mentioned on the cartouches

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Beautiful Damascus pattern, wish I had a good camera to cpature the detail !!

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Post by Moin. » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:30 pm

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Re: Indian Edged Weapons in the Prince of Wales Museum

Post by Moin. » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:42 pm

Various Kataars, Jambiyas, Chilanums and Khanjaralis

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This is a Chilanum



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Post by Safarigent » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:57 pm

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Re: Indian Edged Weapons in the Prince of Wales Museum

Post by dsingh » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:04 am

Some of the swords r Saif ,goliya and khandas the khukri type r known in many names .Khukri type I was offered in Patiala similarly original tegha and Khanjars r awesome in spears one big blade spear is Karpa Barcha nagani spear u can find in plenty in Anandpur Saheb .Emperor Aurangzeb was known for skills in use of Golya or circular type sword this was known as royal sword as was worn by high offcials and kings it was a purely Mughal weapon .Khanda seems to be Rajput Khanda while sikh Khanda is always broader.Karpa Spear or wrist shaped spear r same but snakeshaped spear is chense or mangol weapon it is very lethal.Katars r purely Rajput weapon but agin sikh katars r broader these r differences.

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Re: Indian Edged Weapons in the Prince of Wales Museum

Post by Moin. » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:07 am

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Qajar Persian Jambiya Dagger Walrus/Ivory Hilt

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The seal on the middle eastern Jambiya looks Roman to me ??? An old coin perhaps or left over from the crusades

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A beautiful Pesh Kabz
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This is a Kard Knife

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This appears to be like a Roman Gladius Sword but with Arabic inscriptions !!!

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