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50,000 weapons seized in J & K.

Post by kanwar76 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:50 pm

Wonder who is using all those pistols and revolvers now


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Nearly 50,000 weapons seized in J&K in 23 years of militancy: government report
Press Trust of India | Updated: December 30, 2012 17:15 IST
Jammu: Twenty-three years of insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir have seen security forces recover nearly 50,000 weapons, including 30,859 AK assault rifles, according to a recent report on militancy compiled by the state Home Ministry.

The list of 49,627 weapons recovered till November-end also includes 11,576 pistols and revolvers along with 1,028 universal machine guns, 80 carbines, 2,264 rocket-propelled grenade launchers, 221 light machine guns/self-loading rifles, 306 .303 rifles, 394 sniper rifles, 69 general purpose machine guns and 2,830 rocket boosters.

The AK rifles recovered include those of the 47, 56, 74 series. While 160 AK assault rifles were were recovered this year as compared to 177 pieces in 2011, the highest number seized was 3,504 rifles, in 1992.

Similarly, 181 pistols were recovered in 2012 as against 162 in 2011 with the highest cache of 1,052 seized in 1996.



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December 30, 2012 17:13 IST"

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Re: 50,000 weapons seized in J & K.

Post by inplainsight » Sun Dec 30, 2012 7:36 pm

I wonder how many weapons made it out of J&K without being intercepted!

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Post by mundaire » Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:08 pm

Unlike what the antis will have you believe :roll: the AK's & machine guns are not going to be issued/ sold to VIPs, since they are current 'service pattern' these are usually issued to military/ paramilitary/ police forces for their use. From what I've been told by serving personnel AK's are preferred over INSAS by troops engaged in CI-OPs .

If they have recovered 11,576 pistols/ revolvers over 23 years of insurgency, that is hardly a figure worth commenting on... any largish village in UP probably has more illegal handguns than that (including of course the ubiquitous desi katta)... considering the Government policies, not surprisingly these illegal guns are mostly owned by otherwise law abiding folk, who just don't have the clout/ wherewithal to acquire an arms license and a legal gun - BUT value their/ their families lives & property enough to go acquire the only available means for their self-defence.

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Post by miroflex » Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:54 pm

mundaire wrote:Unlike what the antis will have you believe :roll: the AK's & machine guns are not going to be issued/ sold to VIPs, since they are current 'service pattern' these are usually issued to military/ paramilitary/ police forces for their use. From what I've been told by serving personnel AK's are preferred over INSAS by troops engaged in CI-OPs .

If they have recovered 11,576 pistols/ revolvers over 23 years of insurgency, that is hardly a figure worth commenting on... any largish village in UP probably has more illegal handguns than that (including of course the ubiquitous desi katta)... considering the Government policies, not surprisingly these illegal guns are mostly owned by otherwise law abiding folk, who just don't have the clout/ wherewithal to acquire an arms license and a legal gun - BUT value their/ their families lives & property enough to go acquire the only available means for their self-defence.

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The figure appears to be on the higher side for a single village.

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Post by mundaire » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:31 pm

Accepted... maybe half the quoted number then?
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Post by Safarigent » Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:35 am

The service issue weapons go back to the frontline units fighting insurgency.
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Post by essdee1972 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:13 am

Totally OT, but when will the media learn that the "AK56" is actually Type 56, and is Chinese?

The number of UMGs, GPMGs, and sniper rifles is actually scary! (provided the reporter got it correct).
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Post by gladiatorgarg » Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:10 am

pistols and revs are hardly captured now-a-days,its mainly ak series since any militant who surrenders with an ak gets 50k xtraa from state govt,pistols & revs are mostly pb bore or pak/chinese 7.62 pistols,snipers are extinct weapons amongst terrorists,the greatest menace are pistols with silencers,off late for last 3-4 years they have killed in broad daylight crpf and police personel at pattan,baramulla,and recently handwara these are menace u never come to know 9mm with silencer from within a feeran point blank range u r dead meat...but the actual score is much higher "haathi kee daant khane kee aur dikhane ke aalaag hotee hainn" :)

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Re: 50,000 weapons seized in J & K.

Post by winnie_the_pooh » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:01 am

Gladiatorgarg,

Silencers do not completely silence a firearm.Your post is also difficult to read.Some of it I could not understand.Can you back your comments about the new menace from suppressed pistols with a reliable source?

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Re: 50,000 weapons seized in J & K.

Post by gladiatorgarg » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:38 am

winnie the source is very reliable since that's myself, in the recent past 2-3 yrs their have been atleast 7 hit n run cases with silenced 9mm pistols in busy crowded streets and roads in broad daylight even in the upmarket polo road where a business man from sopore was gunned down and people around did not even come to know before they saw the blood oozing from his wound,and the list includes at lest 4 CRPF jawans 2/3 state pol personal of which i am aware of their may be few more unfortunate souls...infact i was at polo road barely 10 mtrs away from a well known leather shop where i was doing some purchasing before proceeding on my hard earned leave where that person was shot down .....why its a menace??because in an active urban CI envioronment its has become very difficult to identify your enemy who is meticulously choosing his targets who is not carrying an AK rather a more concealable and effective weapon...with which he his achieving his target l but the law enforcing agencies are at loss to stop him because he is literally invisible...this is a practical problem which boot on the ground faces...and believe me its a menace...it can scare many a brave soul..

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