PreciHole AirGun Review

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Re: PreciHole AirGun Review

Post by joybiswas » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:11 pm

u_vaste wrote:
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pratik_mahale wrote:Hi joybiswas
Thanks for clearing cloud over the costing
One more question why all dealers are promoting Orion .22 Cal why not Pegasus .177 cal
Personally I feel 800 FPS with .177 is the perfect combination
hi pratik and sriram, the pegasus is not yet launched it is supposed to be available from 1st week of december. The price is the same as orion@9500 and i am opting for a manual safety as the feedback from customers says they prefer a manual safety over a automatic one. Once launched it will be listed at my site within a week for sale.
Hi joy,

why sudden Rs.1000/- increase in prices, I think your prices are reasonable. I got My IHP from you and its landing cost almost same as dealers are giving in Mumbai(landing cost induced transport and tax+octroi and it reached at my doorstep), you are one to list precihole AR first at price Rs8800/-(even before dealers list published on precihole site) some dealers were charging round Rs8000/- for IHP as well, they wont agree on Rs8800/- for these new guns. could this be the reason.

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There is no sudden increase in price the price was decided to be 9500 but the company wanted the first few peices to be sold at a discounted price so that customers could try it for themselves and post their feedback it was more of a product promotion step. The 9500 is the final price and all things remaining constant(excise,tax etc) there will not be a increase in price in the near future.
You are right about mumbai we avoid customers from mumbai as the octroi increases the price of products,but then again dealers in mumbai too charge octroi for their products sold over the counter. The target of aimco is to sell airrifles in regions where there are no dealers as that brings more and more people to the activity of airrifle shooting.
Regarding ihp being sold at 8000 i have no control over that and it is beyond my jurisdiction to comment on the same on the lighter side you could refer some of these buyers of ihp at 8000 to opt for the orion instead :D

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Re: PreciHole AirGun Review

Post by brihacharan » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:44 pm

joybiswas wrote:
There is no sudden increase in price the price was decided to be 9500 but the company wanted the first few peices to be sold at a discounted price so that customers could try it for themselves and post their feedback it was more of a product promotion step. The 9500 is the final price and all things remaining constant(excise,tax etc) there will not be a increase in price in the near future.
> If prospective buyers think Rs.9500/= for the Precihole 'Orion / Pegasus' is high - consider this:
1. An IHP 35 0.22 cal costs around Rs.7000/= today - now the cost of tuning this AR which includes...
a) New spring + rear guide + top hat + synthetic seal + labor would cost another Rs.3500/= , while the original rear sight + fore sight + a sheet metal rear guide + hard to pull single stage trigger remain the same.
b) Now in comparison Orion & Pegasus come with specially manufactured spring + precision machined rear guide & top hat made out of high quality steel + synthetic seal + micro adjustable rear sight + slip on precision moulded fore sight + 2 stage trigger + specially designed (piston rod free) piston + a one piece moulded synthetic stock that won't warp / crack / break stock.
> So 7000 + 3500 = 10,500 for a tuned IHP35 without features in Orion & Pegasus that too at 1000 less :D
> I own both & I know the difference :D
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Re: PreciHole AirGun Review

Post by bandukbhandar » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:23 pm

Precihole (.22) orion is still available at discounted rates in Indore.

Now a days, IHP is retailed for less than Rs.7,000/-. The rates were on a higher side only till January 2012, when the IHP restarted production and now its being retailed at very reasonable rates.

Pegasus when available in Dec, will also be retailed at discounted rates in Indore.

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Re: PreciHole AirGun Review

Post by SriramK » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:14 pm

bandukbhandar wrote:Precihole (.22) orion is still available at discounted rates in Indore.

Now a days, IHP is retailed for less than Rs.7,000/-. The rates were on a higher side only till January 2012, when the IHP restarted production and now its being retailed at very reasonable rates.

Pegasus when available in Dec, will also be retailed at discounted rates in Indore.
I'm gonna hope it's available at discounted rates in Bangalore too :D Two weeks to go...

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Re: PreciHole AirGun Review

Post by u_vaste » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:13 am

here is no sudden increase in price the price was decided to be 9500 but the company wanted the first few peices to be sold at a discounted price so that customers could try it for themselves and post their feedback it was more of a product promotion step. The 9500 is the final price and all things remaining constant(excise,tax etc) there will not be a increase in price in the near future.
You are right about mumbai we avoid customers from mumbai as the octroi increases the price of products,but then again dealers in mumbai too charge octroi for their products sold over the counter. The target of aimco is to sell airrifles in regions where there are no dealers as that brings more and more people to the activity of airrifle shooting.
Regarding ihp being sold at 8000 i have no control over that and it is beyond my jurisdiction to comment on the same on the lighter side you could refer some of these buyers of ihp at 8000 to opt for the orion instead :D
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I think It would have been Better, if there should be sales offer saying discounted price for limited period or something like that , people who are already made up there minds would have bought it earlier. now IHP cost Rs.6800-7000. Even though briha said is correct about tuning cost but not all go for tuning AR. let me know if you can get discounted price for Pegasuses , My friend need one.

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Re: PreciHole AirGun Review

Post by joybiswas » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:10 pm

The price given at our website is final there are no additional discount on the same. peagasus when launched will be available at our website.

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Re: PreciHole AirGun Review

Post by bandukbhandar » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:53 pm

brihacharan wrote:> If prospective buyers think Rs.9500/= for the Precihole 'Orion / Pegasus' is high - consider this:
1. An IHP 35 0.22 cal costs around Rs.7000/= today - now the cost of tuning this AR which includes...
a) New spring + rear guide + top hat + synthetic seal + labor would cost another Rs.3500/= , while the original rear sight + fore sight + a sheet metal rear guide + hard to pull single stage trigger remain the same.
b) Now in comparison Orion & Pegasus come with specially manufactured spring + precision machined rear guide & top hat made out of high quality steel + synthetic seal + micro adjustable rear sight + slip on precision moulded fore sight + 2 stage trigger + specially designed (piston rod free) piston + a one piece moulded synthetic stock that won't warp / crack / break stock.
> So 7000 + 3500 = 10,500 for a tuned IHP35 without features in Orion & Pegasus that too at 1000 less :D
> I own both & I know the difference :D
Briha

Why does a member (brihacharan) who has no role in decision making at Aimco and Precihole, is defending the price increase by Aimco enterprise. Something fishy here.

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Re: PreciHole AirGun Review

Post by Sujay » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:50 pm

Bandukbhandar,

Brihacharan is not defending any price increase by anybody ; at least it is not in his posts.
Strange you came to this kind of conclusion.

He is merely comparing two ARs and their prevailing prices + expenses needed to make them somewhat equal.

Already all the threads on Precihole are on fire, let us think twice before posting anything.
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Re: PreciHole AirGun Review

Post by mercury » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:08 pm

you are right Sujay...all threads on precihole end up nowhere......

so can we come back to TenX and his review.....

what ever happened to the promised pictures of groupings with different pellets ????
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Re: PreciHole AirGun Review

Post by AbbasRiz » Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:27 pm

AbbasRiz wrote:Thanks dear TenX for a thorough review on PH. I would love to possess one of them.

However, I am sorry to mention that, the review did not cover the "accuracy" part. You are aware that we all are fed up with the mediocre accuracy achieved by IHPs. Currently, our prime concern is "accuracy".

If an Indian AR becomes capable of dishing out outstanding accuracy even though its stock, cheek piece etc. are not that good, it is most welcome, even @ 10,000/-. Please tell us about the " inner rifling" of the barrel, as this plays a major part in deciding accuracy of the ARs.

Some of our senior members who have been in possession of PH air rifles for 3 to 4 months have claimed to achieve "hole-in-hole" accuracy at 10 meters with imported .177 pellets. What do you say?

We shall be eagerly waiting for your additional review on the accuracy performance of PreciHole Air Rifles.

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Abbas

You are right dear Mercury,
We thank TenX sir for his effort , but request him to complete his review by posting a comprehensive report on Accuracy performance of PH Air Rifles. We want to know whether an Indian-made- Air Rifle ( PH made) can shoot Hole-in-Hole ( as claimed by some of our respected senior members) -- or not.
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Re: PreciHole AirGun Review

Post by SriramK » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:46 pm

joybiswas wrote: hi pratik and sriram, the pegasus is not yet launched it is supposed to be available from 1st week of december. The price is the same as orion@9500 and i am opting for a manual safety as the feedback from customers says they prefer a manual safety over a automatic one. Once launched it will be listed at my site within a week for sale.
Will there be two versions of each rifle with a manual and automatic safety? Or can you disable the automatic safety to make it a manual safety and back? Also, when will the .177 pellets be back in stock, and how do they perform in the PH Pegasus?
http://www.aimco.co.in/products/117-aim ... -45mm.aspx

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Re: PreciHole AirGun Review

Post by pratik_mahale » Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:37 am

SriramK
When I purchased IHP air rifle from Aimco 2 years back they send free 100 pellets along with the air rifle but the quality of pellets is so bad I never used it

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Re: PreciHole AirGun Review

Post by SriramK » Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:39 am

pratik_mahale wrote:SriramK
When I purchased IHP air rifle from Aimco 2 years back they send free 100 pellets along with the air rifle but the quality of pellets is so bad I never used it
Haha! :D Ok, just thought they might be good for casual plinking :)

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Re: PreciHole AirGun Review

Post by pratik_mahale » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:04 am

I find Master shot Flat head yellow or white box it good in my Pegasus still not able to try G smith pellets
You are right dear Mercury,
We thank TenX sir for his effort , but request him to complete his review by posting a comprehensive report on Accuracy performance of PH Air Rifles. We want to know whether an Indian-made- Air Rifle ( PH made) can shoot Hole-in-Hole ( as claimed by some of our respected senior members) -- or not.
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The gun was fix in bench vice for the accuracy check & JSB pellets was used

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Re: PreciHole AirGun Review

Post by joybiswas » Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:26 pm

SriramK wrote:
joybiswas wrote: hi pratik and sriram, the pegasus is not yet launched it is supposed to be available from 1st week of december. The price is the same as orion@9500 and i am opting for a manual safety as the feedback from customers says they prefer a manual safety over a automatic one. Once launched it will be listed at my site within a week for sale.
Will there be two versions of each rifle with a manual and automatic safety? Or can you disable the automatic safety to make it a manual safety and back? Also, when will the .177 pellets be back in stock, and how do they perform in the PH Pegasus?
http://www.aimco.co.in/products/117-aim ... -45mm.aspx

We are only opting for the manual safety as the majority of the users donot like the automatic safety as they need to turn it off at every shot, you can always switch back to automatic safety, but i think for airrifles manual safety is the best choice. If customers want we will start opting for automatic satefy also.

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