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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by bodhijobs » Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:25 pm

tirpassion wrote:Dear agn,

it is very normal that you want to score eagerly after a long break from shooting. The session is more of looking for the confidence, where am I after so long?
Please avoid doing a match of confidence building after a SA drill and figure '8's. You had already drained yourself out of your energy before going to the match.
Please do your figure '8's at home. The SA box drill (always dry and hold only, no need to squeeze the trigger) can be done at home also and on a blank target of adapted size. You can also do most of your box drills dry at home if you can not go to the range often. You can download the targets proposed by Rink grips and print it according to the distance you find at home and do dry training.
http://www.formgriffe.de/en/shpPfCnt.php?sCI=125
So, given the time constraints, please restrict to the live shooting part only (always with box drill) in the range.
If you achieve good % box drills at home on dry training, you should have enough confidence to achieve good results while live shooting.

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Hello Tirpassion,

I was going through the thread all over again and found this link posted by you.

I see that there are 4 blacks. Which one to choose? Is it the luftpistole? If yes, then shall I need to cut out that particular target only and paste on the wall?

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by airgun_novice » Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:58 pm

bodhijobs wrote:[SNIP]

Hi AGN, Jitu, Dev da others,

How about catching up for a drink at my place if you are free after shoot, I stay close to Karni Singh Range...

Guruji, are you also coming to Delhi during this time...?

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Dear bodhijobs,
Thank you for your offer. Afraid I might have to just pass it up. On 7th I shall be finding my way through Delhi and its metro etc. to KSR for WC. 8th on, the family joins in - so no luck even on non-shooting day. In any case I am a poor drinking company since I don't drink. But y'all rest catch up and enjoy. Will try to chime in to say "Yo Whazzup?!". Should I make it to Delhi again in Dec, will definitely plan some extra time on the side.

BTW, WZ-I starts on Nov 18th on at Pune. Those (out-zoners) interested in playing for MQS (for Nationals ?) can try their luck. Good luck.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by bodhijobs » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:02 pm

airgun_novice wrote:
bodhijobs wrote:[SNIP]

Hi AGN, Jitu, Dev da others,

How about catching up for a drink at my place if you are free after shoot, I stay close to Karni Singh Range...

Guruji, are you also coming to Delhi during this time...?

Regards
BD
Dear bodhijobs,
Thank you for your offer. Afraid I might have to just pass it up. On 7th I shall be finding my way through Delhi and its metro etc. to KSR for WC. 8th on, the family joins in - so no luck even on non-shooting day. In any case I am a poor drinking company since I don't drink. But y'all rest catch up and enjoy. Will try to chime in to say "Yo Whazzup?!". Should I make it to Delhi again in Dec, will definitely plan some extra time on the side.

BTW, WZ-I starts on Nov 18th on at Pune. Those (out-zoners) interested in playing for MQS (for Nationals ?) can try their luck. Good luck.

regs
A.

Good Luck to dev/ jitu/ atul/ et al for GVM and beyond.
No problems, in case you need directions to KSR, metro route etc, feel free to contact :)

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by dev » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:49 am

Best of Luck Gentlemen,

I hope we are worthy of the Guru's hard work.

Will prolly take up Bodhi's offer if possible. Am pm ing number to AGN as I think Jitu already has my number and so do you Bodhi.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by bodhijobs » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:40 pm

A nice article (at least thats what I felt) by Jukka which I came across for all the guys competing for the 7th and beyond (I wish to join the club soon)...

"Actually I should begin my story even earlier. This happened when I was maybe 13 or 14. Our small shooting club consisted of mostly men over 50. At the time I was the only active shooter under 30. It was great.

Those guys, well most of them anyway, had so much to give to a youngster like me. There were especially these two veterans who didn’t force their knowledge to me, but with little hints and tips every now and then helped me to get my act together pretty quickly.

They are both dead now, Tauno and Antto, but I have such warm memories of both of them. It was Antto, left handed shooter who I have to thank for the fact that don’t get thrown off my game if I have to shoot ”face to face” with someone, who said something very wise.

”Don’t ever quit in the middle of a practice or competition. If you do it once, it becomes too easy to do it again and again.”

Then, when I was maybe 15 or 16, I read an interview of an experienced pistol shooter, an olympian even. He said: ”If after a few practice shots you don’t feel right, you should pack your pistol and go jogging or something.” And I believed him. Hey, he had shot in the Olympics!

A few years ago I realized how terribly wrong he was. I should have listened to Antto.

Let’s say it’s your last chance to score a spot at the Olympics. You’ve shot well in past competitions, but there were always a couple of guys that did better. In
practice you have shot very well, but sometimes you have interrupted the training if you didn’t feel good enough.

It’s competition time. You go to the range, set up your gear, do dry fires and then, you start shooting sighting shots. After just couple of shots you get that same feeling you’ve had occasionally in practice. ”It doesn’t feel too good.” What do you do?

It’s your last chance to get to the Olympics. Sure, you might get a wild card, but you can’t really depend on it. You just have to try to do your best. The thing is
though, you don’t have any tools to overcome that shaky feeling.

If you’d just stick with it in practice, if you’d decided to concentrate on dealing with your difficulties, you would know what to do in that crucial moment. But now, you’re lost. Goodbye Olympics.

So, you see how right Antto was. If you quit once, why not do it the second time, and the third, and fourth. After that the only chance for you to get to a podium
is when you feel absolutely right from the beginning to the end. How often does that happen?

The same goes for conditions and your gear. If your glasses brake or your pistol gives you hard time, you should just continue your practice. The same thing could happen in a competition. In fact, you should create these situations for you.

”Forget” your ear muffs home. Screw off some light bulbs and shoot in bad lighting. If you use color lenses, try shooting with the obviously wrong one on. Put too much clothes on so you’ll be sweating all the time or shoot on your underwear so that you’ll be cold. Anything can and will happen in a competition. Be
ready.

If you shoot 25 meter or 50 meter pistol, go to shoot when it’s raining. Go to the range when wind is throwing small cats and dogs around or when it’s extremely hot or cold. Go shoot in the dawn. Go shoot in the dusk. Go shoot at the time of day when you’re usually eating lunch or dinner. They don’t plan the schedules based on your eating habits, you know.

Get used to shoot well even when everything isn’t perfect, because it never is."


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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by jitu sati » Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:46 pm

hey bodhi thats a beautiful write up. thx . i know how i felt in jodhpur when things collapsed around me. but i did not leave and when i finished i ended up with a score much better than what i thought i would. may be below my usual score but even the finishing gave me some strength.same applies to my NZ experience. when i finished i felt 'yes this was my first time at a electronic range. i am sure i will be able to do better next time' had i quit and left i would never have known this feeling. i can go to gvm in a much better state of mind due to completing that NZ shoot. of course this is thinking in posterity, at that moment i really had a strong urge to just pack my gear and walk away after the first two sets. so experience of those who have been there really counts. provided you stick to a few people and dont go scouting for advice from all. it is my personal expeirence that lot of people act as neem hakims and give outrageous advice which may end up harming you.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by bodhijobs » Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:52 pm

jitu sati wrote:hey bodhi thats a beautiful write up. thx . i know how i felt in jodhpur when things collapsed around me. but i did not leave and when i finished i ended up with a score much better than what i thought i would. may be below my usual score but even the finishing gave me some strength.same applies to my NZ experience. when i finished i felt 'yes this was my first time at a electronic range. i am sure i will be able to do better next time' had i quit and left i would never have known this feeling. i can go to gvm in a much better state of mind due to completing that NZ shoot. of course this is thinking in posterity, at that moment i really had a strong urge to just pack my gear and walk away after the first two sets. so experience of those who have been there really counts. provided you stick to a few people and dont go scouting for advice from all. it is my personal expeirence that lot of people act as neem hakims and give outrageous advice which may end up harming you.
Rightly said. But I blv with Guruji around and advices from Tirpassion, Brihaji, Dev, AGN, we dont really need to pay heed to those neem hakims, do we?

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by jitu sati » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:06 pm

exactly what i meant. it is really our luck that we are at the right forum and the right thread. hey AGN and bodhi pl pm your Nos to me so that i can call you when i reach on 7/8th. atleast we can meet at the range if not at any other place. i am yet to fix up where i stay but i will arrange something

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by amarinder » Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:27 am

I want to start pistol shooting with the only one aim .i.e to compete at highest level.And I have heard that to compete internationally, one needs really low pulse rate like 30-40 beats per minute but mine is 60. Would this be a problem.....

The other option is to start Rapid fire shooting .but I think that more expensive sport because of the bullets...Is it? And neither do we have Rapid fire shooting range in chandigarh...We do have Computerized 10 metre shooting range here..

Please address my heart beat issue...I would be thankful....I want to give everything, if I start shooting but I am hesitant that no matter how much hardwork I do, my higher heart beat would stop me from being the best...



Infact I would be thankful if you mention various traits that are required or advantageous to become world class shooter. I have posted this question on hvj1's request. Some senior members have already given me the answer but I am posting here so that everybody can read it....
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by bodhijobs » Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:11 pm

Amarinder, I guess you have already got answers. I would tend to believe that you start shooting, rest will fall at place.

As Dev said earlier, once you start scoring 570/600, the country will take care of the rest.

The earlier you start, the better off you will be.
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by jitu sati » Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:07 pm

hey amarinder i would sincerely advice you to start shooting and not pay attention to this heartbeat issue. honestly speaking it has never even occurred to most of the shooters including those shooting at the highest level. first start shooting and meticulously heed the advice of hvj and tir. rest assured you will progress. the progress in this sport i feel is only feasible by being physically toned up and tech sound which is feasible through systematic and diligent prac. which i am sure you are ready to put in. so dont get stuck on a issue which you can do nothing about. has anybody asked jin jongoh what his heartbeat is? join the shooting fraternity by picking up the ap and starting with the advice of the gurujan and you will certainly achieve your dreams. ofcourse this is what i feel as a beginner. but i feel the gurujan would advice you the same

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by bodhijobs » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:28 pm

I have a question, yet again.

I understand when an AP comes from the factory (Morini/Steyr/Pardini et al), it comes with a test card which has one hole in the bull's eye and 10 shots have gone through the same hole when tested in the factory. I understand the test is done at a 6 o'clock hold and at 10 meters. Now lets say, that I am shooting at 5 meters in my home by resizing card accordingly ie using an AR target sheet at 5 meters. So if I aim with 6 o'clock hold at 5 meters on an AR target, will it work?

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Post by dev » Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:20 pm

Yes it will but maybe with minor tinkering for the exact spot where your sub six hold will be. It does work cause I have had to do it often. Regards dev
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by dev » Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:25 pm

amarinder wrote:I want to start pistol shooting with the only one aim .i.e to compete at highest level.And I have heard that to compete internationally, one needs really low pulse rate like 30-40 beats per minute but mine is 60. Would this be a problem.....

The other option is to start Rapid fire shooting .but I think that more expensive sport because of the bullets...Is it? And neither do we have Rapid fire shooting range in chandigarh...We do have Computerized 10 metre shooting range here..

Please address my heart beat issue...I would be thankful....I want to give everything, if I start shooting but I am hesitant that no matter how much hardwork I do, my higher heart beat would stop me from being the best...



Infact I would be thankful if you mention various traits that are required or advantageous to become world class shooter. I have posted this question on hvj1's request. Some senior members have already given me the answer but I am posting here so that everybody can read it....
Amar please don't repeat the same query so often. Your questions have been answered. It is beginning to sound like wailing :deadhorse:

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by amarinder » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:36 am

dev wrote:
amarinder wrote:I want to start pistol shooting with the only one aim .i.e to compete at highest level.And I have heard that to compete internationally, one needs really low pulse rate like 30-40 beats per minute but mine is 60. Would this be a problem.....

The other option is to start Rapid fire shooting .but I think that more expensive sport because of the bullets...Is it? And neither do we have Rapid fire shooting range in chandigarh...We do have Computerized 10 metre shooting range here..

Please address my heart beat issue...I would be thankful....I want to give everything, if I start shooting but I am hesitant that no matter how much hardwork I do, my higher heart beat would stop me from being the best...



Infact I would be thankful if you mention various traits that are required or advantageous to become world class shooter. I have posted this question on hvj1's request. Some senior members have already given me the answer but I am posting here so that everybody can read it....
Amar please don't repeat the same query so often. Your questions have been answered. It is beginning to sound like wailing :deadhorse:

Regards dev

Read the second last line. I have already got the answer. HVJ1 requested that he liked the question and asked me to post the question on his thread so that everybody can read it....I have already made my mind....
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