Six For Sure.

[xl_target]

When I shoot Bowling Pins, I use my S & W M-57 41 magnum, 5 pins = 5 rounds

Yogi, great photo!


Mr Gasman, saar.
Gas is not a problem. Why didn't you say so?
All I have to do is stop by the local Taco bell.
You haven't done "gas" till you've been around me after one of these.



Star Wars?
maybe I should look for one of these.
BTW, it's Gas operated too.

[timmy]

Gas is not a problem.
Why didn't you say so?
All I have to do is stop by the local Taco bell.
You haven't done "gas" till you've been around me after one of these.

Yikes!

I hope nobody drops a wrench on the garage floor...

[Mack The Knife]

Now you guys are really letting it rip.....

[timmy]

I thought you wanted to cut to the chase. Maybe we're safe as nobody eats that volcano along the west wall.

[mundaire]

Ideally I'd like to have a few of both, unfortunately that really isn't an option here

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[lazybones]

Dear Mack the Knife.

What bloody rot. It's like asking if I prefer the Devil to the Deep Blue Sea.
Only wimps and wussies would even think of owning either of these shapeless blobs of metal.

Haven't you heard of long guns ? Of finely grained Walnut stocks shimmering in the moonlight ? If God had wanted us to own either of these abominations he'd have given us a shoulder blade below each eye - and he hasn't - Go check your self in the bathroom mirror immediately !
I suppose you also advocate the use of over/under shotguns ? Wake up man ! If God had wanted us to use those he'd have set our eyes one atop the other and not side by side. Sheesh !

Pistols or Revolvers ? What a load of bilge, tripe and untreated sewage !

If you need something at moderate range use a bloody shotgun, for crying out loud. Longer than that use a rifle. There is absolutely no space in the scheme of things for the two pieces of rust you speak of.I feel like a tetanus shot just looking at either of them.

Still, let's not rant and proceed scientifically.
Now, I shoot pumpkins and watermelons at between thirty five and fifty yards.
Why pumpkins and watermelons you may ask ? A silly question (like your principal one ) but I shall indulge you. I am a vegetarian and when I was very little I was told that if I shot anything living I should have to eat it. So fruit and veggies it is. Good God man! do I have to explain everything to you ? Which kindergarten have you escaped from ? Return there forthwith !

Anyway, back to fruits and veggies. Have you seen what a twelve bore can do to an aggressive pumpkin at thirty five yards ? Put a hole the size of my fist through it- that's what! Now repeat the same with either of your unmentionables and see the results. I tried it once and spent an entire day looking at afore mentioned pumpkin with a magnifying glass. And what did I find ? What I thought was a termite hole turned out to be a teeny weeny puncture from one of XL Target's largest catapults. Sheesh ! Any self respecting wood boring insect can do better than the best revolver or pistol produced !

Revolvers or Pistols ? What have you been smoking Mack ? Cease and Desist immediately ! It's already liquefied your brain to pulp.

Now on to this conceal ability and carry-ability nonsense. The only proper and self respecting way of carrying a long gun is slung over the shoulder or broken over the crook of the arm. Why would anybody want to secrete the bloody thing ? It's not your bloody wallet ! Carry it like a man Mack ! Fly your colors and toot your bugle. Let the pumpkins and watermelons know there's a Real Man in town. I suppose next you'll be advocating shopping at Louis Vuiton and advising all of us to carry ladies handbags to hide your pistols and revolvers. Good God man ! get your water tank cleaned out. There's probably brain eating bacteria in there and it's showing.

Now on to this close range nonsense. At the ranges that you claim that either of your pipes is deadly, I could walk up and poke you in the eye with my ball point pen, before you had got either piece of junk going. Do remember that when armies were first issued these pustules, everyone held on to their sabres. And for good bloody reason too. I open-carry my ballpoint pen proudly and have never been molested. So there !

And for my final Coup De Gras to your half witted question; " MY ball point pen never jams, never has timing problems, and never gives me a back pain from lugging it around".

I hope I have inspired you to be a better man. You need to scrub between your toes regularly and consult a good witch doctor immediately ! I know a good one in Doodagubbihalli. A genuine sort with bones through his nose and all that. I shall drive you there.

regards, as always

[timmy]

Still, let's not rant and proceed scientifically.

Why would anybody want to secrete the bloody thing ?

I think it is because he has large pores.

[Skyman]

Shall we say revolvers are simple handguns which can be relied on, and semi-autos and the like are handguns which offer more capacity and so come with more potential problems, but are still reliable?

[Moin.]

Just out of curiosity, why is that most or perhaps all militaries of the world issue semi autos/pistols as a side arms and not revolvers. From the Colt 1911 to the Beretta to the Glocks the Browning High Powers...

Pardon my ignorance, wrt to the above point can a revolver be as easily field stripped, cleaned, maintained in the field like a pistol ?

Thanks
Moin.

[timmy]

I agree, Moin. Except for a few of the early semiautos, like he Savage and the Steyr-Hahn, there is no rotation in a semiauto. Every motion takes place in two planes. With a revolver, the trigger is cocking the hammer in a reverse rotation, while spinning the cylinder on the z-axis plane, while unlocking and locking the cylinder. In the better designs, a hammer block is also actuated, all by pulling the trigger. That's a whole lot of movements, all powered by the trigger. The wonder, to me, of a revolver is that it is even as reliable as it is, considering all of what is going on.

Nor have we addressed the efficiency issue, considering the gap between the barrel and cylinder. This bleeds off a significant amount of energy (compare the ballistics of the same cartridge in a semiauto or Thompson-Center handgun). Please watch how you hold the revolver -- things can get a mite interesting if your flesh is near that gap!

[Moin.]

I agree, Moin. Except for a few of the early semiautos, like he Savage and the Steyr-Hahn, there is no rotation in a semiauto. Every motion takes place in two planes. With a revolver, the trigger is cocking the hammer in a reverse rotation, while spinning the cylinder on the z-axis plane, while unlocking and locking the cylinder. In the better designs, a hammer block is also actuated, all by pulling the trigger. That's a whole lot of movements, all powered by the trigger. The wonder, to me, of a revolver is that it is even as reliable as it is, considering all of what is going on.

Nor have we addressed the efficiency issue, considering the gap between the barrel and cylinder. This bleeds off a significant amount of energy (compare the ballistics of the same cartridge in a semiauto or Thompson-Center handgun). Please watch how you hold the revolver -- things can get a mite interesting if your flesh is near that gap!

I would'nt really know Timmy. I've never ever fired a firearm before.I'm just asking out of curiosity and wanting to learn.

Is this more of a nostalgia, wild West, Dirty Harry Callahan fascination with revolvers like it is perhaps with Double Barell Rifles vs Bolt Action.

Best
Moin.

[xl_target]

Lazybones,
I bitterly (maybe slightly.. ah well, not very much actually) resent the implication that my slingshot makes termite sized holes. They are certainly larger, at least ant sized.

As for your ball point pen versus fountain pen as a weapon, my fountain pen is way more reliable. Just pull the cap off and poke someone. None of this click-click business first. What if the spring in your ball point gets weak? Then you have a weapon with no point. You could also use a propelling pencil in a pinch but they are less reliable and every time you poke someone, a piece of lead breaks off. Pretty soon you're out of lead, have an empty weapon and you've left a trail of lead-poisoned people behind. What.....? Oh! My wife says they have graphite in them and not lead. Can you get graphite poisoning?

[Skyman]

No, graphite is safe.Does make you look like a dirty school kid though.

[Vikram]

Please watch how you hold the revolver -- things can get a mite interesting if your flesh is near that gap!

Moin,

I posted aeons ago few photos of a nasty,nasty injury caused to someone due to letting off a .460 S&W revolver by holding it wrong.You may find it if you do a search on IFG.


Best-
Vikram

[Bruno22]

Probably most important is the carrying and loading of Amunition into the said device. Carrying along a bunch of speed loaders is not all that convenient. You can carry multiple magazines, shoot, eject and reload much faster.