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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by dev » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:13 pm

atulgupta1 wrote:32nd North Zone Championship - Delhi - 9-14 October 2012

- What are the MQS required to participate? Is it the same as GVM (345/400)?
- Am I (member of Chandigarh Rifle Association) eligible?
- Any idea, which dates would AP matches be held in these?

22nd AIGVMSC - Delhi - 3-10 November 2012

- Any idea, which dates would AP matches be held in these?

Guruji, Dev, Tirpassion, AGN, Jitu & others - will you be there in Delhi on these dates? I'd love to meet up with you. Lets exchange phone numbers on PM

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Yeah plan to shoot all the tourneys this year. Will be in town and we will hook up. Out of towners are to take advise from me before booking a room at paharganj ;-).

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by brihacharan » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:15 pm

[quote="hvj1"]Dear Brihaji , Tirpassion
I was pleasantly surprised to read about Zeljko Todorovich. He was my mentor and coach at the ISSF Academy Munich and believe me my whole approach to coaching has its roots in the time we spent exchanging notes. At first meeting he come across as an abrupt person, but once you earn his respect, he is a wondeful person to know and learn from. It was an honour to learn from him and I was humbled by his humility when he asked me questions to which I had a few answers. When i came back from germany, I tried to introduce him to NRAI, since he was free then. later he was picked up by france, his wife is an internation psitol shooter too.
He was a tremendous shooter, a shoulder injury prevented him from further pursuing his career, he then switched to full time coaching. he has been Chief Coach for many countries and our so called coaches and national coaches would probably need to have a brain surgery to enable them to understand the humility, dedication, technical and tactical thoroughness that he has.
I owe this thread to Zeljko and wish him success always.

Pranam Gurudev,
> It was nice to know that Mr. Zeljko Todorovich was your coach & mentor. You are truly previleged.
> His humility, dedication, technical and tactical thoroughness must be a lesson to every aspiring shooter.
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by tirpassion » Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:31 pm

Brihaji,
We are also privileged to have the indirect presence of Mr Todorovic through our own Guruji HVJ :D
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by vikram.dutta » Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:05 pm

Hi all,

I have been a silent reader of this thread for some time now, trying to complete the whole thread. I will come up with doubts and queries as soon as I complete reading the thread properly, and when I'm sure that my doubts are not already tackled with; as HVJ1 says asking a silly question would be better than end up making that silly mistake. :D

I would like to say "Thank you" to HVJ1 for this effort and that you have earned respect for this tremendous piece of work right here. Many thanks to other seniors and contributors too (read Dev, Jitu, Tirpassion, AGN, Brihacharan).

Okay, let me make this short. I have sent a PM to HVJ1 giving my email id for the 'Novice Training Program'. I have not received any reply from him as he is busy or my message might have skipped his attention. I am sure all the seniors have the NTP file with them, so I want to request you all if you could kindly spare the time and send me the NTP. I would send my email id on PM as and when I get the response. I'll be more than grateful. :)

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by airgun_novice » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:38 am

Back from GFG - utter and total disaster. Could have scored better if I had shot with left hand, all other conditions remaining constant or standard or even sub-standard.

Everything that could go wrong went wrong. Will not write explicitly here about it; one, no point recording negative thoughts; two, no point crying over split milk; three, what's the point - to what use, to what end ?

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by dev » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:09 pm

Hi agn,

Just bleep the darn thing from your mind and move on. I have seen a three time renowned shot in Ap flub his match on the North Zone.

Something is prompting me to write that you should change your training. Forget everything else and do dry firing only at home. Do it about a hundred times. I sense that you may be over training. And thereby putting a tremendous amount of expectation on yourself. Lighten up and just do this thrice a week. Work on your fitness on the other days.

You will soon be shooting better. Pardon me if i have figured you out all wrong.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by dev » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:13 pm

vikram.dutta wrote:Hi all,

I have been a silent reader of this thread for some time now, trying to complete the whole thread. I will come up with doubts and queries as soon as I complete reading the thread properly, and when I'm sure that my doubts are not already tackled with; as HVJ1 says asking a silly question would be better than end up making that silly mistake. :D

I would like to say "Thank you" to HVJ1 for this effort and that you have earned respect for this tremendous piece of work right here. Many thanks to other seniors and contributors too (read Dev, Jitu, Tirpassion, AGN, Brihacharan).

Okay, let me make this short. I have sent a PM to HVJ1 giving my email id for the 'Novice Training Program'. I have not received any reply from him as he is busy or my message might have skipped his attention. I am sure all the seniors have the NTP file with them, so I want to request you all if you could kindly spare the time and send me the NTP. I would send my email id on PM as and when I get the response. I'll be more than grateful. :)

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Hi Vikram,

Welcome to the pain. :) I do not know about the NTP, I would advise you to go to the beginning and copy all the steps given by Guruji, on a word file. That should help you a lot, the thread has gone through every aspect of the training in a surprisingly detailed way. These notes can almost be a book.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by jitu sati » Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:26 pm

first let me say thankyou to hvj for giving us this thread and also thank Mr Zeljko Todorovich for giving us hvj.
thanks tir for pointing out my lack of confidence. i do really need to have more confidence to compete. well i am working on it. you were to tell me something more on trigger control ex. i am all ears

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by airgun_novice » Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:20 pm

Dear Dev,

You are absolutely on the target. :-) It's back to drawing board for me. One Q still haunts me - all the rest I can slot under different factors. Every second shot my glasses fogged - no a/c - no fan situation. They fogged from the top - say from the eye-brow level to the half-inch below thereby blinding me totally. So should not be because of nose-mouth breathing. I literally had to push out the pellet a few times to empty the can and wipe the glasses and the face. This thing persisted in sighter shots and all the way to the 40th record shot. One aspect that threw me totally off rhythm and off-stance. Wonder why ? As if the eyes were radiating the moisture onto the glass. Any similar experience ? I had/ have a slight fever but this exp was noted earlier when I had no fever - under similar situation.

Then the double vision followed me like a spook even though I tried canting my head in every possible direction. Didn't work like it usually did. Tried taking the glasses off - worse - saw a band now - so put them back on. First set recorded a miserable 70 on the Olympic style system which I used for the first time. Let go of the killer instinct after that.

BTW, GFG was not the end of story - the darn misfortune followed after that too - the Indigo broke down with smoke gushing out of the hood!This was around 1030-1100. Took almost 1730 hr for the tow vehicle to come and carry it to the workshop. :-) Just finished writing in the diary of all the experiences spread out over 4-5 (Fri-Tue) days. I can make a movie out of it - well, at least an episode of a TV serial. ROTFL

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by tirpassion » Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:11 pm

The Flight or Fight response again perhaps...
Your blood flows fast to get your muscles ready for action, your heartbeat increases and in turn heats up the body...

Please do not ponder over a lot on this (read: do not lament). Do not turn the page abruptly either. After all you have not travelled so long, spent your hard earned money for nothing. Note all the negative things which you found out / experienced point by point in your diary. Then a goal has to be fixed to correct all the negative points one by one. In this way, you will turn the negative to positive. Learn from your failures how not to fail in future. Wise men say that strong pillars of succes can be built with elements of failure if done properly :D .

laage raho agn bhai! :D

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by brihacharan » Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:48 pm

[quote="tirpassion"]
> The Flight or Fight response again perhaps...
> Your blood flows fast to get your muscles ready for action, your heartbeat increases and in turn heats up the body...
> Learn from your failures how not to fail in future. Wise men say that strong pillars of succes can be built with elements of failure if done properly :D .
> Laage raho agn bhai! :D
>

Arey AGN Bhai,
> Take a quick rewind to one of my earlier posts wherein I had mentioned .....
" A Samurai Sword that can splice a strand of human hair & at the same time splice a 10" tree trunk takes over a 1000 hammerings, heating, quenching, honing & polishing before it becomes worthy of the Samurai's scabbard".
> As tirpassion says "Lagate Raho" - The time will soon come when you have to bend to receive 'Da Medal' :D
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by airgun_novice » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:00 pm

Dear tirpassion - it's now "lagi hai agn ki" :lol: Can you also try checking the fogging thing with your optics friend ? Thanks in advance.
Dear brihji, many thanks for the kind words and vote of confidence. Down, but not out yet. :-)

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Post by fantumfan2003 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:22 pm

tirpassion

That is a great thought...........
(typed takeaway but backspaced it and typed thought)

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tirpassion wrote: Do not turn the page abruptly either. After all you have not travelled so long, spent your hard earned money for nothing. Note all the negative things which you found out / experienced point by point in your diary. Then a goal has to be fixed to correct all the negative points one by one. In this way, you will turn the negative to positive. Learn from your failures how not to fail in future. Wise men say that strong pillars of succes can be built with elements of failure if done properly :D .

laage raho agn bhai! :D

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As an example of overcoming adversity, Karoly Takacs has few peers. He was part of Hungary’s world champion pistol-shooting team in 1938, when an army grenade exploded, crippling his right hand. Ten years later, having taught himself to shoot with his left, he won two gold medals in the rapid-fire class.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by jitu sati » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:46 am

hey agn we are all in the same boat. but it is a nice journey to learn from a disaster and ensure it does not happen again. so lage raho agn bhai.
tir sorry could not spk to you yesterday. am really down with this viral and i reallly need to get back in fitness soon if i have to take part in the NZ. so hopefully will get better in a day or two.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by airgun_novice » Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:02 pm

Dear tirpassion/ Jitu/ dev/ brihji,
Sorry to sound so very defeatist earlier. Was feeling tres miserable also with a bit of fever, fatigue and body ache. Those days I mentioned, nothing ever went right;hence the discordant note. But like I said "Down, but not out." Back to drawing board and DF practice (Thanks dev). Also planning to meet the good Doc tomorrow to learn lesson or two on trigger unit - darn thing failed at WC when it had tested OK the day before and to get "OK" in time from invisible officials was sheer wastage of time and efforts. Had got it tightened by the guru but then on my own tightened it further "to play safe" and then the problems began. Could never quite get a hand on first pull (which had disappeared) and the trigger break. :-( Monday on - back to routine. Hope the fever that lasted 5-6 days won't return now after it broke today. Feeling very "weak" now ( ROTFL ) with all the excitement now put behind. Still - will meet y'all at GVM. Already booked Nov 7-10 at Aero city. Have yet to figure the Metro connection to the Fort. GOOD LUCK FOR THE NZ.
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