Tips on Pistol Shooting

[jitu sati]

hey tir
pl also read my post after the comp about the things i noticed and comment whether i have drawn correct conclusions

[tirpassion]

Dear jitu,
you have scored 370 once during a practice session. Be sure and confident of yourself that YOU CAN DO IT again and regularly and even MORE with time. Time here means quality time invested in shooting sport. Change your mind frame from now on and tell yourself 'I AM CAPABLE OF DOING 370+'.
How?
Did you write down point by point what you had done on that day after the session? If yes, read and reread it. While reading feel physically what you are reading, see yourself again in that situation and feel yourself doing the work. You should feel your blood warming up with the desire and the positive attitude.
In any case, you have written down yourself only in a few posts earlier. When you are following your Sequence of Action, things are going right. YES, this is the key word. Letting the SOA function correctly in it's own rhythm.

WHENEVER YOU FEEL THAT YOUR MIND IS STARTING TO WANDER, SIT DOWN IMMEDIATELY, DO PRANAYAM, RELAX AND GET BACK TO THE LANE. YOU WILL HAVE TO ANTICIPATE IT. THE BEST THING IS TO TAKE REGULAR PREDEFINED, PREPROGRAMMED BREAKS.

It is again time for you to recheck your SA hold. Get another 100%. It should be done in 2 sessions max. After that we will do work on the trigger control work. Carry on with your figure 8's always.

jitu, agn and dev
We had worked on the definition of the aimzone. I would like to know how confident you are of your aimzone. If you are very confident, you should be able to call your shot correctly (+or- 2/3mm). I have an interesting game in mind for you after I have received your replies.

I am sure that Guruji is always watching us silently. In case of any error, he will certainly intervene.

best regards
tirpassion

[airgun_novice]

Dear upacharya, good to see you back in action. Hope your house renovation went well and is on the way to completion.

Very sorry could not yet do justice to the sport. Got caught up with a bit of 'duniya-daari' - plus all those external Maths exams of the kids kept me prancing around. It's really wonderful to know how less one knows of Std VI/ III maths these days. Had visited the Savarkar range in the interim but it was over-crowded with the enthusiasts and participants of the September first fortnight competitions. Plus it seems they had a practice match scheduled which was somehow not communicated except for those in their "Ghost-to-Ghost Hookup". So simply put - not only was I unprepared but also successfully missed it.

The good thing is that now with GVM getting rescheduled to November, I guess I can now try my luck there. I have a workshop to attend to from Oct 26-29 which was clashing with the earlier published dates. Last couple of days was trying to juggle that with my family's North India trip with Indian Railways over-flowing its capacity. 5 mins back I got the entire trip in place - finally resorting to the expensive options for BOM-DEL-BOM.

Coming to Nov 3rd - let us check with Guruji if he's going to be around in Pune then ( GVM - Nov3-10) - I shall join you at Balewadi then on 3rd & 4th. In fact, Brihji and FF2003 would be delighted to join in too, I suppose. If that meet does not happen and you choose to come over to Mumbai that would be great too. I shall talk to VS and get you entry at Savarkar range. Brihji can of course come in as he is a member there and so is FF2003. In fact we can hold an AP session if VS permits - what say ?

Now that I have run out of "Amol Butter" shall get back to holding and the wall from tomorrow.

[airgun_novice]

Hi AGN,
> Tks for the enlightenment on "Hold"! I stand educated.
> It finally boils down to -
* Concentration
* Focus
* Mental balance
* Physical fitness / Muscle coordination
* The will to WIN (Attitude)
* 3 Ps - Practice - Persistance - Patience
* Lastly exchanging 'Gyan' with those who can contribute +vely.
Briha

That's the best capsule treatment of the topic, Brihji!

[brihacharan]

[quote="tirpassion"
Dear jitu,
Be sure and confident of yourself that YOU CAN DO IT again and regularly and even MORE with time. Change your mind frame from now on and tell yourself 'I AM CAPABLE OF DOING 370+'.

WHENEVER YOU FEEL THAT YOUR MIND IS STARTING TO WANDER, SIT DOWN IMMEDIATELY, DO PRANAYAM, RELAX AND GET BACK TO THE LANE. YOU WILL HAVE TO ANTICIPATE IT. THE BEST THING IS TO TAKE REGULAR PREDEFINED, PREPROGRAMMED BREAKS.

> Can't agree with you more - Perfectly put!
Briha

[jitu sati]

ok. will do. presently i shoot in 4 shot sets. refresh my grip after 8 shots. have water after 8 shots. do not change my stance till i finish 20 shots. i sit down after 20 shots.
but henceforth if my thoughts start wavering i will sit down and do the pranayam. as it is i finished the shoot in 54 min. so enough time is there for such breaks.
hey tir, will make efforts to do the 60 holds SA 100% again. yesterday did a 40 holds session. i could achieve 100%. but need to put in efforts for the 60 holds. am sure i will achieve it.

[tirpassion]

Thanks for your support Brihaji. I am honoured.

Jitu, please note:
- 4 shot cycle means starting afresh after 4 shot cycles. It means de grip and relax your hand and palms and restart.
- Taking a break after 20 shots is too much for you at this juncture. While practising try to anticipate and note where the fatigue is starting to manifest. For example, the first error even if you thought that you had put in your best efforts and you had done everything right. This is a signal that your fatigue has settled in and nimbled out your analytic powers without your knowledge and conscience. STOP IMMEDIATELY. Note the period when this is happening. For later practise sessions you should programme your seated break around that period even if you are shooting brilliantly. This has to be systematic.
The idea is to stop before and avoid that BIG SH*T.

best regards
tirpassion

[airgun_novice]

Finally my SA-DF (Sight Alignment - Dry Fire) is at 80% consistent Aug 26-31. Lagging 5% behind what was desired (i.e. 85%) by EOM. But should I get the consistency to 85% by Sep 15th, it should do too. Hopefully, that would translate into another milestone at GFG. Will zero out the AP next week when I go to Savarkar.

[jitu sati]

ok tir. let me see . i will take a complete shoot this weekend and will be live for this fatigue and see how the same can be avoided by timing my breaks. will let you know. yesterday did a 40 shot hold and again could do it 100%. will try a 60 holds ex today and tell you the result.next tgt is 09-14 OCt North ZOne for qualifying for nationals. so tell me how to prepare. GVM is in Nov so will participate in both.

[jitu sati]

sorry tir. the 60 shot ex did not go as planned. 44th and 51st holds were not good. will need to try again. thoughts go floating some where else and that is enough to either loosen or tighten the grip leading to mov of the foresight

[atulgupta1]

Hello Everyone on IFG,

My name is Atul & I belong to Chandigarh. I extend my greetings to all you fine shooters.

I took up AP shooting as a hobby about 2 years back as the sport fascinated me. I picked up a 2nd hand Steyr LP-10 (2005 model) which is working more or less fine, but may require a little fine-tuning, for which I'll seek your and Guriji's help in guiding me on how to do it, in due course.

In the last 2 years, I have seldom practiced (not good). On an average, I would have practiced for a few days every 2-3 months. However, since my interest in sport is growing, I wish to start practicing regularly and hence my dedication to regularly read these topics here for guidance on how to go about it. I have also setup a 10m shooting range at my house. I’m a member of Chandigarh Rifle Association.

I scored 346/400 in Chandigarh State in Aug 2011. I participated in GVM last year and got 335/400 with little practice (not good). This August, I participated in Chandigarh State and I think I'll qualify for GVM as my own assessment of my score would be about 345/400. My best score during practice in the last 2 weeks has been 351/400, with one best card of 5-shots showing 49/50. Most likely, that was a fluke.

I have done extensive research on the net to find AP training tips and collected a lot of material and saved it in Word Documents. Although I'm not sure how much of it would be considered as a "good advise". During my research, I stumbled upon this thread.

I have carefully read all the posts of this topic from 15th Sept 2009 to 1st Sept 2012 (82 pages & almost 3 years), within in the last one week. I have copied most of the important training tips posted by HVJ1 “Guruji”, into a Word document (it now runs into 22 pages). I intent to format it well, add the images within the document and then send it to Guruji for further editing, addition and approval for posting it in this forum as a consolidated AP shooting guide, so that other novices like me can benefit from it.

I have a bunch of questions for Guruji and other accomplished shooters like you all. My first question (an important one for me) is that - I’m 47 years old (5ft-9.5in tall and weigh 71 kg). I generally feel fit & have no particular ailments. Am I too old to have started this sport now? Is there any scope for me to consider participating in competitions or should I just pursue this sport as a hobby? I apologize if this question sounds strange or irrelevant for this topic but would appreciate your advice.

Thanks

Atul

[tirpassion]

Hello Atul,

Welcome to IFG. It is nice to another enthusiast. However, it would be also nice that you post a part of this messae as your introduction in the introduction part of the forum.

best regards
tirpassion

[airgun_novice]

Dear Atul, Welcome and congratulations. With your score of 345+ at Chandigadh state last year, you have already qualified for GVM. The score of 345 has been applicable from this year - till last year it was 335 for NR which means you are fairly head above water. Hope to look forward to more comprehensive contribution from you to the forum/ thread. Good Luck.

[atulgupta1]

Hello Atul,

...However, it would be also nice that you post a part of this messae as your introduction in the introduction part of the forum.

best regards
tirpassion

Done Sir.

Regards,

Atul

[atulgupta1]

Dear Atul, Welcome and congratulations. With your score of 345+ at Chandigadh state last year, you have already qualified for GVM. The score of 345 has been applicable from this year - till last year it was 335 for NR which means you are fairly head above water. Hope to look forward to more comprehensive contribution from you to the forum/ thread. Good Luck.

Hi AGN,

Are you trying to say that I would have been able to participate in GVM this year, based on my last year's score, even if I had not managed to achieve MQS this year? Do I read that correctly?