Tips on Pistol Shooting

[fantumfan2003]

Can you help me out with the planning as well ?
I am into 10mtr air rifle. Scored 346/400 in the MAWC and need to achieve 360 as MQS for AIGVM.
It will be held around 20th of October in Delhi.
On weekdays I have to practice at home on a "range" which is 7.5m (I reduce target size accordingly and print them on a laser printer).
I can practice three evenings in a week at home and once every weekend at the range.

Do please help.

M.

1. I felt very bad in being harsh with you, but you have taken it in the right spirit and I am very happy to know that I have read you correctly.

Guruji,
It was an honour to be bashed up by you. In fact, you should be doing it from time to time. It is highly motivating. I am not sure if I could attain that level of confidence yesterday without your scolding.
Any layman will understand what were between the lines you wrote. For us all it was a great gesture from your part which proves that you care for us all . So we are all motivated to prove also that we care for you too.

agn, jitu and dev, what are you doing boys? Kamar kaso and go for the AIGVM and the Nationals . If you want, I will help you to plan out your practice sessions according to your individual needs and time before the next comp where you can achieve your MQS of 355 for AIGVM. But for that, I need to know your availibilities (when and how many days you can go to the range, how much time you can give per day or per week at home etc.), the dates of the comp and your level of motivation followed by your level of dedication. If you want, you can PM me your landline numbers with all the codes. I will take the pleasure to call you (on landline only) and discuss things out. If you are ready, I am too.
Now let us go for it! What do you say guys?
I am sure that Guruji will always have a watchful eye and intervene in case anything goes wrong.

warm regards
tirpassion

[tirpassion]

I thought about you FF for sure.
But I am only a pistol shooter and I do not have any knowledge in rifle shooting, unluckily What I can only suggest you is work with box drills and not to score. I hope you understand me.
best regards
tirpassion

[jitu sati]

hey tirpassion
the rajasthan state comp is probably in sep followed by gvm in oct at delhi. so need to prac real hard. presently shooting 358-368 in prac. but unfortunately the izh has gone silent due to some snag and hopefully should be repaired at delhi by this weekend. till thn only fig8s/SA possible. may go in for a pcp next month. so will require a lot of prac in the next few months. i am sending u my phone No on the Pm. hope to hear from you soon
jitu

[dev]

Dear dev, Bad Boy ! You sneak away from your wife ... to the range ? Definitely BAD BOY !!! Buy hey - good job with the shots. BTW, any feedback on or experience with this one ?
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Feinwerkb ... 2556#sSpec

No, nyet...totally untrue. I could only sneak up to the chat and shoot at seven meters. I am sorry I haven't experienced this model but I had shot with the co2 version of the old feinwerkbau pistols, they used to rule the roost in the early nineties. So I don't think that you can go wrong with the new ones.
Warm Regards,

Dev

[dev]

1. I felt very bad in being harsh with you, but you have taken it in the right spirit and I am very happy to know that I have read you correctly.

Guruji,
It was an honour to be bashed up by you. In fact, you should be doing it from time to time. It is highly motivating. I am not sure if I could attain that level of confidence yesterday without your scolding.
Any layman will understand what were between the lines you wrote. For us all it was a great gesture from your part which proves that you care for us all . So we are all motivated to prove also that we care for you too.

agn, jitu and dev, what are you doing boys? Kamar kaso and go for the AIGVM and the Nationals . If you want, I will help you to plan out your practice sessions according to your individual needs and time before the next comp where you can achieve your MQS of 355 for AIGVM. But for that, I need to know your availibilities (when and how many days you can go to the range, how much time you can give per day or per week at home etc.), the dates of the comp and your level of motivation followed by your level of dedication. If you want, you can PM me your landline numbers with all the codes. I will take the pleasure to call you (on landline only) and discuss things out. If you are ready, I am too.
Now let us go for it! What do you say guys?
I am sure that Guruji will always have a watchful eye and intervene in case anything goes wrong.

warm regards
tirpassion

Hi Tir,

Haven't really been hiding in the woodwork, it is just that I haven't had the time to set my house in order. Hadn't been working out or shooting and so the old signs of prosperity came back with a bang and so did the habit of calculating scores.

Managed a jog yesterday and have been doing a few dry firing shots at a blank wall. I am actually just working on the SA and the trigger going off without any shakes or trembling. Have to figure out a way to train more often.

By the way I plan to also shoot standard pistol in the next Delhi state. It is way more exciting and in my last competition I shot 460/600, not a great score but it wa my first comp and I was happy with it. I had bruised my thumb during the air pistol competition (541/600) and so had loading the magazines was quite painful and made my ten second series a little bad. Let me see what happens this year.

Free pistol is really tough man, in standard my worst shot normally is a 8. At my friends range I could keep most of the shots in the nine and the ten ring. But all this is talk from last year. Haven't picked a standard pistol so far but I am really interested in it. Naturally, I am hoping that practicing with an air pistol will help me improve even in standard pistol.

Regards,

Dev

[dev]

Can you help me out with the planning as well ?
I am into 10mtr air rifle. Scored 346/400 in the MAWC and need to achieve 360 as MQS for AIGVM.
It will be held around 20th of October in Delhi.
On weekdays I have to practice at home on a "range" which is 7.5m (I reduce target size accordingly and print them on a laser printer).
I can practice three evenings in a week at home and once every weekend at the range.

Do please help.

M.

1. I felt very bad in being harsh with you, but you have taken it in the right spirit and I am very happy to know that I have read you correctly.

Guruji,
It was an honour to be bashed up by you. In fact, you should be doing it from time to time. It is highly motivating. I am not sure if I could attain that level of confidence yesterday without your scolding.
Any layman will understand what were between the lines you wrote. For us all it was a great gesture from your part which proves that you care for us all . So we are all motivated to prove also that we care for you too.

agn, jitu and dev, what are you doing boys? Kamar kaso and go for the AIGVM and the Nationals . If you want, I will help you to plan out your practice sessions according to your individual needs and time before the next comp where you can achieve your MQS of 355 for AIGVM. But for that, I need to know your availibilities (when and how many days you can go to the range, how much time you can give per day or per week at home etc.), the dates of the comp and your level of motivation followed by your level of dedication. If you want, you can PM me your landline numbers with all the codes. I will take the pleasure to call you (on landline only) and discuss things out. If you are ready, I am too.
Now let us go for it! What do you say guys?
I am sure that Guruji will always have a watchful eye and intervene in case anything goes wrong.

warm regards
tirpassion

Manish the 360/400 is to qualify for the nationals in the AIGVM. You will have to shoot 540/600 in the nationals to get the MQS and be a renowned shot. Normally a 85% score in the state qualifies you for the AIGVM. So I think you have already qualified for it.

Regards,

Dev

[tirpassion]

Dear dev,

Haven't really been hiding in the woodwork, it is just that I haven't had the time to set my house in order. Hadn't been working out or shooting and so the old signs of prosperity came back with a bang and so did the habit of calculating scores.

I understand very well what happens after the birth of a child. My daughter was born in June 2009 and 2009 was the worst of my shooting experience. I lost all confidence because I could not practice regularly. Moreover, my angel did not allow us to sleep the whole night for 8 long months. My wife and I, both of us were at the borderline of getting crazy. Then there was also the little son, who did not understand what was happening . Nice experience!!!
In fact, I took a break of 6/7 months from Sep'09 to April'10 and spent the time with my ailing parents in India along with the family. I had 4 children to take care of, 2 old ones (my parents) and 2 young ones (my children) .

So please do not ponder over much. You can take things coolly and everything will settle down on it's own with time. For the shooting part, you can very easily attain the MQS, if you take things coolly. I had written a post for you in the last few days regarding the scoring part. Please follow the suggestions and again, take them coolly.

I am not capable of talking about SP, unluckily, because I do not shoot SP (my brain is too slow to react to it's rapidity ), neither about FP because I have just started it. What I can say for sure is that AP is the best shooting discipline to learn pistol shooting. If you shoot AP well, you can shoot well any pistol discipline.

warm regards
tirpassion

[fantumfan2003]

Dev,

Many thanks for the hope.........

M.

Manish the 360/400 is to qualify for the nationals in the AIGVM. You will have to shoot 540/600 in the nationals to get the MQS and be a renowned shot. Normally a 85% score in the state qualifies you for the AIGVM. So I think you have already qualified for it.

Regards,

Dev

[tirpassion]

Hello Manish (FF),

have you started writing the shooting diary? I am certainly not able to give any technical advices on AR but for the Mental training the steps are same as that of AP. This will immensely help you, believe me!

best regards
tirpassion

[airgun_novice]

[SNIP]

agn, jitu and dev, what are you doing boys? Kamar kaso and go for the AIGVM and the Nationals . If you want, I will help you to plan out your practice sessions according to your individual needs and time before the next comp where you can achieve your MQS of 355 for AIGVM. But for that, I need to know your availibilities (when and how many days you can go to the range, how much time you can give per day or per week at home etc.), the dates of the comp and your level of motivation followed by your level of dedication. If you want, you can PM me your landline numbers with all the codes. I will take the pleasure to call you (on landline only) and discuss things out. If you are ready, I am too.
Now let us go for it! What do you say guys?
I am sure that Guruji will always have a watchful eye and intervene in case anything goes wrong.

warm regards
tirpassion

Dear tirpassion et al,

Visited the range today - much to the surprise of my friend. He assured me that I could participate in Capt. EZ (for some reason scores here are considered for the MQS) which follows Savarkar Club's own - Lakshyavedh starting from May 20th. My problem is that I have now committed myself to travel in the interior of Thane district from May 4th till May 13th. => TODAY <= The Savarkar range has come up with Lakshyavedh which did not take place last year as no one had time. So this time expect many more shooters, including national level - was I told !!! So for Lakshyavedh I get hardly a week to practice and that too at home. Why ? Because all the 10 lanes will be in demand by all those who ever steppped into the Savarkar range. In short, what plans da and what kolaveri di !

Anyway no dates are announced yet for Capt EZ - last year it was around the time of GfG; just before. So expect it around Jun-Jul. Now for the commitments - else I shall ride my Chetak with my skull and its tires spewing flames.

The week before Lakshyavedh, I plan to put in at least 2 hrs for F8/ SA/ DF. I had planned to start some physical exercise but now shelving plans as do not want muscle ache at the time of competition. Travel is gonna be hectic enough. May be I shall push in 20-shot live fire alternate days (so I get 3 prax sessions) at home and if possible try to sneak at 6.30AM t the range at least 2 days of that week to set my 'AP' - ah ! if the good Dr, Shirsat is back I shall give him my AP for the 10 days I am travelling to have a look at the sights. So I shall have it in time for the Lakshyavedh prax and tourney ? Or should I defer this till Lakshyavedh is over ? That way I still play with the known devil.

After Lakshyavedh, Let us get our heads together and work out a plan for Capt EZ and if I do good then another one for GVM. What say ? I shall PM you my home # and email but better catch me on email or cell even if I am at home. Merci beaucoup for the personal interest.

Oh BTW - today I shot 4 cards of 13 each. Changed the pellets to Mastershot but did not "set" the sights as did not want to score. For the 3rd and 4th card reverted to gsmith. First card had 2 in whites, 1 on #7 and the rest spread almost evenly on #8, #9, #10. Second card, none in white and 2 on #7. Third card, 1 on #7 and the rest on #9 and #10 !!! I could *not* believe it one bit - was elated Fourth Card was a disaster - 2 in whites and all the rest getting sprayed generously in four rings and four directions of the black.

Regards,
A.
CORRECTION: The one in Jul was something called as MRA trials (dunno what for - may be GfG) but Capt EZ was around Sept 2011.

[varunik]

Man!!! hvj1 is surely Guru Dronacharya of Kalyug!!

[jitu sati]

yo varunik
join the gang of hvj admirers. we r all learning from him. now upacharya tirpassion is guiding me too.
tirpassion thx for pulling my ears on the SA%. have been giving my brain some real ex to figure out why. my thoughts
Mental reasons
1 i have some how not committed fully to what level i want to achieve. probably i am still in between a hobby and passion. that is why the mind is not yet fully into it.
2 mental discipline is lacking . i start the diary in josh and after 10days or so it peters out
3 my josh is directly proportional to achievement. so need to see some improvement continously. unfortunately initially the mov from 280/400 to 340/400 was fast. but the mov ahead is slow making my weak mind loose focus
4 mind is focusing on what excuses, including my trips out of town, to give to justify my lack of improvement rather than think why really am i not improving.
Tech reasons
1 shoulders start weakening after first 40 SA holds and the last two sets tend to reduce my %
2 wrist lock probably was faltering allowing the angular error to creep in especially in later sets
3 after good first few sets a single mistake indicates that i wont be achieving 100% so the concentration on SOA reduces affecting the accuracy
this is what i feel . so gurujano pl advice

[tirpassion]

Dear friends,
I had the pleasure of talking to Jitu over phone on tuesday. I have crossed the 'lakshman rekha' to be a bit harsh with him . We have agreed that there would be no more excuses of his trips. agn bhai please note!

Secondly, we have agreed to do some introspection and find out what is preventing him to achieve his goal of 100% in SA hold drill and jot them down subsequently. Jitu has done so and I am very happy to see that he would be able to find most the solutions himself. A self revelation, to begin with. From his analysis, we find that the major obstacles are MENTAL, simply because shooting is a mental sport which needs a high technical skill and proper physical back-up.

So Jitu, please write down in your diary in POSITIVE words, what you should be doing point by point to cross over these obstacles. Read them everyday.

Now let us see, what others come up with

agn, what problem exactly are you having with the sights of your AP?

best regards
tirpassion

[dev]

Hurried note from me. Bought a fancy diary to write shooting stuff in. Shot ten hurried pellets at 7m, two tens and the rest were nines...me very happy...me write sweet notes to self about hitting 570. Plan to attach target also soon, some crazy p 10 pellets bend paper and not tear it.

Regards,

Dev

[fantumfan2003]

tirpassion,

Not yet but I am following the mental training here and the whole thread as well, as much as I can.
Help and advice on this thread is of immense help to me.

M.

Hello Manish (FF),

have you started writing the shooting diary? I am certainly not able to give any technical advices on AR but for the Mental training the steps are same as that of AP. This will immensely help you, believe me!

best regards
tirpassion