Tips on Pistol Shooting

[tirpassion]

Dear friends,
I thought about the benchmark of the MQS (S=score) which is imposed and which certainly creates a mental barrier. My question is 'why let others create a mental barrier for us when we are indulged in an individual sport?'. We can create our GOAL ourselves and term it as MQS (S=score). For that, we need to know our MQS (S=Skill) and we can only know it during the practice sessions.
Although the best option is not to think about any score, we can also set a higher goal [derived from our MQS (S=Skill)] than the standard imposed MQS (S=score) and act accordingly.

Let us say that the MQS (S=score) for the AIGVM 2012 is 355 in AP. Can we work on that? I am sure we can. If you agree to it, please delete all points in your minds and print 355 in place.

Go for it!
tirpassion

[fantumfan2003]

tirpassion,

Now you are reaching out to me......

I am thinking of 360 (MQS for AIGVM) and 375(MQS for Nationals) ever since I saw those on that wretched notice board and posted about it here in another thread.

I dare say my latest score is a result of thinking more about 360 rather than 375. Maybe because I am giving in to the noise being made about my beloved gal not performing upto the 375 mark because she is a springer. What hogwash.......

I'd like to think about 375 rather than 360. Any suggestions ???? Can't afford to be confused between the two, I do know......

M.

Dear friends,
I thought about the benchmark of the MQS (S=score) which is imposed and which certainly creates a mental barrier. My question is 'why let others create a mental barrier for us when we are indulged in an individual sport?'. We can create our GOAL ourselves and term it as MQS (S=score). For that, we need to know our MQS (S=Skill) and we can only know it during the practice sessions.
Although the best option is not to think about any score, we can also set a higher goal [derived from our MQS (S=Skill)] than the standard imposed MQS (S=score) and act accordingly.

Let us say that the MQS (S=score) for the AIGVM 2012 is 355 in AP. Can we work on that? I am sure we can. If you agree to it, please delete all points in your minds and print 355 in place.

Go for it!
tirpassion

[fantumfan2003]

Don't worry about being wordy and repetitive...It actually help reinforcing the concept.......Will go over the past few posts for sure......

M.

How does one tackle expectation from cropping up ? Much as I enjoy shooting. The circumstances here dictate that I have to keep scores in mind.

Dear FF,
Expectation is a negative thought and hence it has to be kept at bay. How? The only way is to keep your head always brimming full with positive thoughts, leaving absolutely no space for the negative and parasitic thoughts to sneak in. Someone rightly said 'An idle brain is a devil's workshop'. Relate it to the shooting sport and you will find that it is absolutely true. The brain has to be kept busy with the technical aspects. Thinking/simulation of very fine operations (e.g. trigger control or the Sequence of Acrion) keeps the brain so engaged that parasites will not be able to penetrate. If there is a small leak, infiltration will take place which in turn will contaminate the whole thing.

It is easier said than done. There we need to work hard and find, innovate, invent, discover means adapted to individual personal needs to keep the brain fed with only positive thoughts.
Please write the shooting diary regularly and use it properly (please see few posts earlier) for the mental training as Guruji has described. Please keep on reading the posts on this thread regularly, time and again. I tend to write long posts and repeat a lot. It may be boring to read the same thing again and again. But I do so intentionally because the subconscious mind can only be programmed through repetitions. Well, I hope also that you read them all even if it is munching the same grass over and over .

best regards
tirpassion

[airgun_novice]

Why did I commit the other 'Himalayan Blunders' ? Dunno. vinash kalay viparitt buddhi

Dear agn bhai,

There are two methods of learning in life.
1. Learning through observations, reading etc.
2. Learning through experience
[SNIP]. But in general, they never forget their lessons.

Hope I am clear

best regards
tirpassion

I will inculcate both the points mentioned above tirpassion. Thank you for pulling up my ears. Now I shall pull up my socks.

[airgun_novice]

Dear agn,

[SNIP]
Again, I suggest that you go for an AP which can be easily serviced in India. I am wondering why your FWB P34 can not be repaired in India. One very important thing, if you are looking for a back-up pistol, you should go for the same model.
Why? It is because, you will be in a constant dilemma; which one shoots better? Please recall your own experience of the RWS or GSmith or Mastershot pellets? Moreover, it takes a lot of time to get acquainted with a weapon. It is like a love story which grows, fortifies and intensifies with time. Now, if you bring in home a rival, will not she be angry ?
warm regards
tirpassion

AH - wisely put. It can be serviced. I shall take it to Dr. Shirsat once he is back in town and have him look at the sights and get them replaced. I am sure Vishwajit or Nilesh could get them ordered for me. FWB does not deal with individual shooter directly. Had that experience around the "Leaking Cylinder Epoch". The second was just so that "extra pressure" on this single piece can be eased. I was wondering about this new pistol as it is pretty much close to P34 but for the size. The price is also less than P44. Anyway, lesson learnt - the thought/ idea discarded. "ek AP wrat: " shall I be.

Dear friends,
[SNIP}

Let us say that the MQS (S=score) for the AIGVM 2012 is 355 in AP. Can we work on that? I am sure we can. If you agree to it, please delete all points in your minds and print 355 in place.

Go for it!
tirpassion

Tirpassion "upacharya" you almost gave me a heart attack the first time I read it. The second time, a light shone through. . Yup you are right - why let some XYZ set our goals ? Why did I spend sleepless nights on "Will it be MQS-1 or MQS+2 ?" Now that I did cross 90 the day before I should have set a goal of 360 for self and not let that MQS be "gifted" by the powers that be.

[tirpassion]

Guruji,
would you have some time for a couple of advices on the Free Pistol? I am using the Hämmerli FP60 for the similarity of the sights. A brief update.
- I am working on the same principles of the AP.
- Doing box drills on Trigger control and SOA. Hovering around 92% and 95% and yet to achieve 100%.
- Have gained a lot of confidence on the aim zone. The shot is breaking quite naturally while I am in the zone. Happy about it.
- Shot 1 match with the TOZ35. 60 shots in 1 hour 15 minutes. 83% SOA. Score 468/600. Abandoned the TOZ because of difficulty to adapt to the unfamiliar SA image (compared to the SA image of my AP) and the grip was too big for me.
- Have done 2 practice matches of 60 shots with the FP60.
The first one on 10/03. No sighters, so all adjustments done in the counted shots. 60 shots with SOA drill of 90%. Score 498/600. Time taken; 1 hour 15 minutes including one break of 5 minutes.
The second one on 19/04. No sighters. 60 shots with SOA drill of 95%. Score 509/600. Time taken; 1 hour 20 minutes including a break of 10 minutes (circumstantial obligations).
- I have adopted the 5 shot cycle for the moment. I am taking between 3 to 3.5 minutes to execute 5 shots. 1 minute break and restart. Degripping after 5 shots. Looking through the scope also after every five shots.

I have only shot indoors and do not absolutely have any clue of what will happen outdoors with the effect of the wind and natural light. So any word from you will be of immense help for me.

best regards
tirpassion

[hvj1]

Titpassion,
I am really surprised to see you scoring only 498. This is just not acceptable to me, in fact it is shocking, a shooter of your maturity and calibre has no business shooting such a lousy score. I think you are taking too long for the shot to break, your trigger timing has to improve and also kick yourself in the ass and tell yourself that you should be shooting 510 AT LEAST. let the shot break within 1-2 seconds after settling within the aiming area. GOD DAMN it Tirpassion, HOW THE HELL CAN YOU SHOOT BELOW 500!!!!!!

[jitu sati]

hey guys
i am still stuck with my not working izy. waiting for rajiv at delhi to be free to repair it.till than it is just fig8s and SA.
i hardly know anything about what new shooting discipline is tripassion trying, but he seems to be performing below his routine standards. is it very difficult, this new discipline hvj
jitu

[tirpassion]

There you see why I felt the urgency to be guided arising in me... I have been probably complacent with myself and I needed a GOOD KICK in the right place .
Thank you SIR!

best regards
tirpassion

[tirpassion]

Dear Sir, dear friends,

Since the bashing of tirpassion by Guruji, nobody uttered a word...
Well, I will break the silence. AND the bashing can continue... This time it is 499/600 today.

I shot my first official competition outside my club today afternoon, the District level competition. 14°C temperature and constant rain. Although not up to the mark, I will qualify for the Regionals with the score.

No excuses but I must say that there have been a number of positive things today. Today, it was my 7th day of Free Pistol shooting including practice sessions and the first match outside. I lack in confidence because I am not sure about the grip and the grip hold pressure. Now here are the series of today.
78, 73, 86, 82, 92 & 88
The impacts were mostly on the right. This is what I was afraid of!!! I CAN NOT ADJUST the WINDAGE anymore because I am at the end.
- In the first series, I shot one accidental 2 and one 5. Still managed 78.
- The second series was catastrophic. I shot the ten shots without looking at the scope. The impacts were too much to the right. When I brought back the target, I was lost and wanted to slap myself... for not looking through the scope.
- Then the scolding of Guruji came back to my mind and I pulled myself up. Amassed the courage which in turn gave me a lot of confidence. 86 and 82.
- I must say that I shot the last 2 sets with a lot of pleasure 92 (3/10s, 6/9s & 1/8) & 88 (2/10s, 6/9s & 2/7s). I found the grip pressure more or less correctly, the shot breaking was excellent. But I had to aim a bit to the left and also grip the pistol more towards the right. This was quite disturbing.
So, now I will fix the rear sight of the pistol and put some wood paste on the grip for proper fit.

The match was finished in 1 hour and 19 minutes including 4 sighter shots.

Guruji,
My confidence is higher now although not to the optimal level. I will certainly be able to give better news and be up to your expectations next time. A bit of scolding from time to time will be highly beneficial , for sure.

warm regards
tirpassion

[hvj1]

Tirpassion
I have switched on the laptop, though I am under severe work pressure for two reasons;
1. I felt very bad in being harsh with you, but you have taken it in the right spirit and I am very happy to know that I have read you correctly.
2. Somehow, I feel, that when you discuss your shooting, i feel as if I MYSELF am shooting. In my shooting days, i was as dedicated as you are. Hence the shock to see you shoot so low in FP. Never in my life have I shot below 509. In fact that was my score the first time I shot a practice FP match.
Finally sort out the grip quickly or else do not pick up FP until you have all the technical things sorted out, meaning, trigger pressure, correct grip, sights etc.
Best Regards and I assure you you will shoot very well quite soon.

[knowledge is power]

Mr. hvj1 please let me where in India are you currently located and your cell no. Do u offer to coach amateurs/ newly stated guys ?

[airgun_novice]

Tirpassion
[SNIP]
Best Regards and I assure you you will shoot very well quite soon.

Good luck tirpassion - tirez avec passion et réussirez.
The reason for the big hushhh ? - kis muh se kuch kahoon ; err, keen fingers se kuch type karoon...

[airgun_novice]

Dear all, Came across this video showing landing of shots. Your views please.

[tirpassion]

1. I felt very bad in being harsh with you, but you have taken it in the right spirit and I am very happy to know that I have read you correctly.

Guruji,
It was an honour to be bashed up by you. In fact, you should be doing it from time to time. It is highly motivating. I am not sure if I could attain that level of confidence yesterday without your scolding.
Any layman will understand what were between the lines you wrote. For us all it was a great gesture from your part which proves that you care for us all . So we are all motivated to prove also that we care for you too.

agn, jitu and dev, what are you doing boys? Kamar kaso and go for the AIGVM and the Nationals . If you want, I will help you to plan out your practice sessions according to your individual needs and time before the next comp where you can achieve your MQS of 355 for AIGVM. But for that, I need to know your availibilities (when and how many days you can go to the range, how much time you can give per day or per week at home etc.), the dates of the comp and your level of motivation followed by your level of dedication. If you want, you can PM me your landline numbers with all the codes. I will take the pleasure to call you (on landline only) and discuss things out. If you are ready, I am too.
Now let us go for it! What do you say guys?
I am sure that Guruji will always have a watchful eye and intervene in case anything goes wrong.

warm regards
tirpassion