School me about India

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Re: School me about India

Post by ckkalyan » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:33 pm

mundaire wrote:ckkalyan, these days you'd be hard pressed to find any vendor who will give you even 50 paise back as change, for all practical purposes the paisa is dead and done with (w.r.t. cash transactions)! :P It still survives as far as electronic/ cheque/ card transactions are concerned and even then most people will simply round off the figure to the nearest rupee when issuing a cheque.

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Hi Mundaire/Abhijeet,

Sure, I will have to agree with you 100% - that the Paisa is dead! Maybe, any coin less than a Rupee, perhaps going further, even a Rupee is insignificant?! I remember the days when my pocket money in the mid 70's was Rs. 5.00 per month. Of course, inflation took over and a few years later it was - earn your way (partly) wash a vehicle - any vehicle - car or bike - and earn Re. 1.00 per wash. Guess, how many times I was washing all the vehicles a week???

Seriously, I was there recently in India (mostly in the 4 South Indian States + a couple of states in N. India) from March to Aug 2011 - roughly 4 months. But having lived in the UAE for 15 years - I was actually rounding off at every 10 Rupees! Possibly, that was my convoluted impression about the exchange factor (rough conversion - Dirham 1.00 = Rupee 12.00)! The great thing was that, I received superb, exemplary, fantastic service in F&B joints in India for my folly! :lol:

This situation of being in a financial, conversion quagmire or conundrum seems to happen to me all the time - I remember the time I got to the UAE and every Dirham was equal to Ten Indian Rupees - phew! I have figured it out now - if the difference is in my court - I am very generous and if it is the other way around - I become a Skinflint! :(

Further - what wisdom - I dont care about money when I have plenty of it - it only pinches when I have very little of it or, none!

@ YogiBear I am sure you will agree - this is certainly a UNIVERSAL Indian phenomenon! ROTFL

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Re: School me about India

Post by YogiBear » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:50 pm

Aloha,

Thank You

Mark has given me the answer that I was looking for. Now I have a basic idea of how much in US $

any particular gun is selling for.

ckkalyan's answer brought more sense to the system. But, he didn't say what the numbers he

gave are equal to in US $.

Reason I asked was because of the inquiry on the Colt Python.

My Wife owns 2. A 4" and a 6". Both in Colt Royal Blue. Excellent condition.

Wonder what she will say when I tell her what they can sell for in India.

Too bad Mr Spock (Star Trek) isn't real, a Vulcan mind meld from any one of you would

most likely answer a lot of my questions about India.

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Re: School me about India

Post by mundaire » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:21 pm

YogiBear wrote:Too bad Mr Spock (Star Trek) isn't real, a Vulcan mind meld from any one of you would

most likely answer a lot of my questions about India.
YogiBear, a large part of why most will not attempt to answer questions about history/ religion/ (non-gun) politics is because these are contentious topics that can & do generate a lot of debate & acrimony, therefore such discussions are not encouraged on this forum (unless related to guns/ similar issues).

India is a very diverse country, with a huge variety in terms of ethnicity, language, culture, religion (all major religions & almost all sects have adherents here). As such we have a very diverse membership and our goal is to unite every pro-gun person under one banner - irrespective of their other affiliations!


I would suggest requesting a reading list on these topics and you can form your own opinions after you have explored the subject matter a bit further, you may also consider discussing some subjects with others via the PM facility.

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Re: School me about India

Post by YogiBear » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:52 pm

Aloha mundaire,

Thank you for the reminder.

I forget that many people aren't like me and able to discuss almost anything in a civil manner.

Most gun forums I'm on has similar rules about politics and religion.

My problem is that I am a Very Curious person by nature and at times have a tendency to

forget and drive people nuts with my wanting to know everything yesterday.

I Apologize if I have stepped on any toes.

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Re: School me about India

Post by Rajat » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:04 pm

YogiBear wrote: I forget that many people aren't like me and able to discuss almost anything in a civil manner.
:roll:


I Apologize if I have stepped on any toes.
Apologies accepted. Most people on this forum are kind enough.

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Re: School me about India

Post by karthik » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:22 pm

YogiBear wrote: I forget that many people aren't like me and able to discuss almost anything in a civil manner.
Its not that we can't discuss topics in a civil manner...its just that your question holds an answer that can't be written in post...and if you are really into learning about India, you would have got an overview about it from the post written by timmy. Have you read it ?

There are no easy way to find out about the diversities and multitude cultures in India...and it most certainly can't happen within this reply or even a wikipedia page is not enough...u have to LEARN it.
YogiBear wrote: My problem is that I am a Very Curious person by nature and at times have a tendency to

forget and drive people nuts with my wanting to know everything yesterday.
Being a curious person is well enough to learn more about India...but it will take some time. :)

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Re: School me about India

Post by hillsman » Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:06 pm

yogibear. a quick google search should answer most of your questions.

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Re: School me about India

Post by xl_target » Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:01 am

When I was a kid growing up in India, we actually had One N.P. (naya paisa) coins and you could actually buy stuff with them. :D
For about two Rupees, you could get one heck of a meal at any idli-dosa joint in Bangalore. Bus fare was 10 or 15 N.P. to get to school. When I was in Calcutta (late 70's) I would buy a tin of five hundred .22 airgun pellets for Rs 5 at one of the gun shops on Chowringhee. There used to be a bunch of gun shops there.
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Re: School me about India

Post by winnie_the_pooh » Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:20 am

Yogibear,

1,00,000 is One lakh/lac

10,00,000 ( one million) is 10 lakhs

100,00,000( 10 million) is One crore.

A far as India is concerned,it is what you want it to be.Poverty and filth or beauty,culture and wealth,you will find all of this.You decide how you wish to perceive the country.Some foreigners cant get beyond the former. We once had a young couple from U.K., as guests.They had,"How to survive India" or something similar, in their hands throughout their stay with us.Makes me wonder why they came here in the first place.

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Re: School me about India

Post by lonetrigger » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:10 pm

YogiBear your curiosity about India is appreciated. Let me introduce you to my country as briefly as possible.

The geographical landscape of India is vast in its diversity. There are Himalayas, Thar Desert, depleting yet vast forest ranges, plains, plateaus, hills, valleys, back waters, Beaches, numerous rivers, seas and an Indian Ocean. Geographically it is a sub-continent (including Pakistan and Bangladesh). There are places in our north-east which receive highest rainfall in the world, we get our share of snow fall, sandstorms, cyclones and tsunamis. When there are floods in one part, another part of India might be facing near drought conditions. The climatic conditions range from extreme to moderate to pleasant depending on which part of the country you are in.

For the sake of Introducing India to a foreigner like you I recommend, “Lonely Planet:India (Travel Guide)”. http://www.amazon.com/India-Lonely-Plan ... 614&sr=1-5

India is a multicultural, multilingual and a multi-religious society. Some of the religions include, Hinduism (?), Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism, etc.(all these have originated in India, theologically they range from polytheism to atheism) and foreign imports like, Islam, Christianity, Zoroastrianism, Judaism, etc. In fact India boasts as being the only county which never persecuted the Jews. There are more than 30 local vernacular languages each with its own dialectic diversity. Hindi is our National Language and English our official or administrative language (Thanks to our British colonial past). We also had Portuguese, Dutch and French Colonies and the respective languages are also known in those particular colonies. As a Nation we are still reeling under the Colonial-Hangover. We still belong to the Commonwealth Nations.

Racially we are mixture of European, Central-Asian, Mediterranean, Mongoloid, proto-australasian, negroid, and perhaps more of human races. Over the period of our history we've had both peaceful and belligerent migrations of people into India. In other words you can say we are truly an assimilated cosmopolitan and a contiguous society of the history.

Before the advent of the British in 18th Century, India contributed 24% to the world wealth, while the whole of Europe's contribution was 23%. However, by 1947 (when British Left India) its contribution was reduced to a meagre 2%; you do the remaining math. So when the World economists interested in India's economic growth say that India is reclaiming its lost position/status, you know what they mean.

The modern Indian society can be described as (for lack of a better word) confused; battling between the old historical and or traditional ideals and the modern ideals of democratic equality and fraternity. Religious bigotry, social discrimination and social injustice has assumed center stage in county's social life. Economic inequality is humongous. On one hand we have the longest list of the fastest growing Millionaires and Billionaires, while on the other we have more than 800 million people struggling to survive on less than (USD) 15 cents a day.

This economic divide coupled with social injustice and discrimination and economic exploitation has led to an armed insurgency movement by the poorest of the poor of this country which has affected 1/3 of India if not more. Corruption has assumed cancerous proportions in this country. By corruption I don't just mean the culture of bribery. Apparently Indians are the largest depositors in Swiss Banks, which are notorious for safeguarding foreign black-money.

Since this is a forum for Guns let me add that in India only the Privilege possess and can afford guns. The numbers of gun ownership are miniscule. RKBA is extensively denied to its more common citizens even though the Constitution of India does not.

There are other historical, societal and political aspects to India which I am afraid, cannot be discussed within the limits of this forum.

I would suggest that you should read about India in books and on net. There is also a very interesting documentary by BBC, “The Story of India”, I recommend you to watch it, its available on YouTube. A word of caution, when reading about Indian History please remember that most of the Indian History is written and commented upon by European Historians commissioned by our erstwhile colonial masters and/or by those historians jaundiced by the European Bias. Some of the Indian History that you may come across on the Net is the Right Wing Nationalist propaganda. Never the less this should get you started.

Suggestions:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_ ... tory+india

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_ ... Ck%3AIndia

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_ ... ia+economy

http://www.google.com/search?q=Indian+H ... 37&bih=929

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Re: School me about India

Post by ckkalyan » Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:46 pm

Hey guys.....lovely, creative and innovative replies to YogiBear's query - educate me about the Indian Monetary System....but - it looks like all YB needs is a conversion calculator from US$ to INR (Indian Rupee) or vice versa for every colloquial term - figure...??

Quote - Mundaire - please be specific Un-Quote... :agree:

Please YB, we - IFG'ians are generous people with our time an knowledge - we try and provide what is asked for, even going out of our way most times - way out of the way - just to satisfy a fellow IFG'ian. We are happy to do that...and more. I personally do appreciate it that you are a 'fully loaded' gunman and have plenty of gun knowledge to share with us...truly!

There are tons of us who are curious, and we appreciate curiosity, (in fact I think IFG has a lot to do with curiosity and the satisfying of this itch; in fact I think it is all based on being curious in our passion for guns and anything remotely related). But being specific surely helps us all towards effortlessness. Meaning - work smart - not necessarily hard - Don't do 8 hours of work when 2 hours would suffice and produce the same, or even better results - delight your customer!?

No offence meant here YB - just my take on 'School Me About India' - (My personal opinions, entirely).

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