what house item can i use to make a .22 airgun pellet mould?
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what house item can i use to make a .22 airgun pellet mould?
.... say a mould to make something like this? would be thankful to all ideas. thanks.
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i don't know about any house hold items but if you have a dentist friend ask him/her for dental cold cure acrylic and monomer liquid.you can make exact molds as depicted in the picture.
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Re: what house item can i use to make a .22 airgun pellet mo
friend,
i tried many stunts didn't work.i feel it needs more machinery and good quality lead.
don't spoil your gun using homemade pellets.
regards
i tried many stunts didn't work.i feel it needs more machinery and good quality lead.
don't spoil your gun using homemade pellets.
regards
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Dr. Garg,
Thank you for your post. Could you please elaborate the process you have in mind?
The picture is that of a pellet and not a mold. Why I posted this in the first place is cuz I have a home 'Jet Torch' that can melt lead and I have loads of shot g-smith pellets that I saved ... so I started wondering if I could get hold of a mold (in the shape of a bullet) then I could have a really solid pellet ...
Thank you for your post. Could you please elaborate the process you have in mind?
The picture is that of a pellet and not a mold. Why I posted this in the first place is cuz I have a home 'Jet Torch' that can melt lead and I have loads of shot g-smith pellets that I saved ... so I started wondering if I could get hold of a mold (in the shape of a bullet) then I could have a really solid pellet ...
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Sinish,
Look online for a PDF copy of an old book called "The Modern Gunsmith" by James Howe. There are 2 volumes, and in one of them there is an entire chapter on making bullet moulds. I think it is in book 2.
That is the best way I can suggest, or if you can find an aluminum fishing sinker mould that could be modified.
Look online for a PDF copy of an old book called "The Modern Gunsmith" by James Howe. There are 2 volumes, and in one of them there is an entire chapter on making bullet moulds. I think it is in book 2.
That is the best way I can suggest, or if you can find an aluminum fishing sinker mould that could be modified.
"What if he had no knife? In that case he would not be a good bushman so there is no need to consider the possibility." H.A. Lindsay, 1947
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Re: what house item can i use to make a .22 airgun pellet mo
looks like you havent tried melting them yet.. You will be very dissapointed!sinish wrote:Dr. Garg,
Thank you for your post. Could you please elaborate the process you have in mind?
The picture is that of a pellet and not a mold. Why I posted this in the first place is cuz I have a home 'Jet Torch' that can melt lead and I have loads of shot g-smith pellets that I saved ... so I started wondering if I could get hold of a mold (in the shape of a bullet) then I could have a really solid pellet ...
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I was going to let it slide, but I agree with jonahpach in regards to the lead.
I was figuring that if someone put all the effort into making a mould then they would soon be looking for a more suitable lead. You see, shotgun pellets are usually on the harder side as if they are soft they will deform more when they are fired, which then destroys the pattern. Pellet gun pellets, on the other hand, need to be as soft as possible so they conform to the rifling and do not use any extra energy in doing so, which would slow down the velocity. So they are most usually pure lead.
Now the good news is that pure lead is usually easy to find at scrapyards. Automobile wheel weights work well too, however I have found that they will have some alloys in the lead but when you are first melting them the lead melts first and you get the other stuff still somewhat solid and floating on top, where you can skim it off with an old spoon. If you are using the lead for rifle bullets then of course you want it in the mix so you stir it in, but for pellet gun pellets skim it off.
I hope that helps, there is no reason why you cannot make your own mould, and riflemen have been doing it for hundreds of years now.
I was figuring that if someone put all the effort into making a mould then they would soon be looking for a more suitable lead. You see, shotgun pellets are usually on the harder side as if they are soft they will deform more when they are fired, which then destroys the pattern. Pellet gun pellets, on the other hand, need to be as soft as possible so they conform to the rifling and do not use any extra energy in doing so, which would slow down the velocity. So they are most usually pure lead.
Now the good news is that pure lead is usually easy to find at scrapyards. Automobile wheel weights work well too, however I have found that they will have some alloys in the lead but when you are first melting them the lead melts first and you get the other stuff still somewhat solid and floating on top, where you can skim it off with an old spoon. If you are using the lead for rifle bullets then of course you want it in the mix so you stir it in, but for pellet gun pellets skim it off.
I hope that helps, there is no reason why you cannot make your own mould, and riflemen have been doing it for hundreds of years now.
"What if he had no knife? In that case he would not be a good bushman so there is no need to consider the possibility." H.A. Lindsay, 1947
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Mark, thank you so much for your lead. Will surely look up the book and see if I can figure out a home made mold.Mark wrote:Sinish,
Look online for a PDF copy of an old book called "The Modern Gunsmith" by James Howe. There are 2 volumes, and in one of them there is an entire chapter on making bullet moulds. I think it is in book 2.
That is the best way I can suggest, or if you can find an aluminum fishing sinker mould that could be modified.
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Dr. Garg,jonahpach wrote:looks like you havent tried melting them yet.. You will be very dissapointed!sinish wrote:Dr. Garg,
Thank you for your post. Could you please elaborate the process you have in mind?
The picture is that of a pellet and not a mold. Why I posted this in the first place is cuz I have a home 'Jet Torch' that can melt lead and I have loads of shot g-smith pellets that I saved ... so I started wondering if I could get hold of a mold (in the shape of a bullet) then I could have a really solid pellet ...
Actually the results have been phenomenal. Otherwise i wouldn't have thought of a home mold.
My home jet torch works up 1300 d temperatures and melts the gsmith .22 pellet in about half of a half second!
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Mark wrote:I was going to let it slide, but I agree with jonahpach in regards to the lead.
I was figuring that if someone put all the effort into making a mould then they would soon be looking for a more suitable lead. You see, shotgun pellets are usually on the harder side as if they are soft they will deform more when they are fired, which then destroys the pattern. Pellet gun pellets, on the other hand, need to be as soft as possible so they conform to the rifling and do not use any extra energy in doing so, which would slow down the velocity. So they are most usually pure lead.
Now the good news is that pure lead is usually easy to find at scrapyards. Automobile wheel weights work well too, however I have found that they will have some alloys in the lead but when you are first melting them the lead melts first and you get the other stuff still somewhat solid and floating on top, where you can skim it off with an old spoon. If you are using the lead for rifle bullets then of course you want it in the mix so you stir it in, but for pellet gun pellets skim it off.
I hope that helps, there is no reason why you cannot make your own mould, and riflemen have been doing it for hundreds of years now.
Mark,
I am using a .22 airgun and I am melting spend .22 gsmith slugs ... so i am using whatever material is in the pellet itself. Do i need to worry about any other technicality you've mentioned except for figuring the right mold?
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Not at the present time, but it is good to understand that casting pellets that you can shoot is one thing, and casting pellets that all want to shoot into the same hole instead of 2 inches left of each other may be a different matter. However, I believe that you can tackle these issues one at a time, and if/when you have the perseverance to come up with a mould you'll also be able to figure out what you need to do to make them accurate as well.
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Sinish,
Here is a link to both books:
http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=27137
IMHO, these 2 are possible the best pair of gunsmithing books a person can have.
Here is a link to both books:
http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=27137
IMHO, these 2 are possible the best pair of gunsmithing books a person can have.
"What if he had no knife? In that case he would not be a good bushman so there is no need to consider the possibility." H.A. Lindsay, 1947
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Please check the legality of the same. In India (esp. since you are from Mumbai), we might be seeing you in papers someday being arrested as an "arms dealer" with links to known terrorist outfits.
Jokes apart, please do check.
Cheers!
Jokes apart, please do check.
Cheers!
Cheers!
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This is a good question, not only for airgun pellets but if you can ever get the regulations on reloading cartridges relaxed it brings the cost per bullet way down.essdee1972 wrote:Please check the legality of the same. In India (esp. since you are from Mumbai), we might be seeing you in papers someday being arrested as an "arms dealer" with links to known terrorist outfits.
Jokes apart, please do check.
Cheers!
Here are a couple of interesting links:
Here's something I posted a few years ago showing how simple it is to cast:
http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=4437
Here is a company here in the USA that makes molds for round balls:
http://buckshotmold.com/
They are $35 plus shipping and you can get them in 22 caliber and possibly 177 as well.
Round balls will be just as accurate as pellets at most distances under 100 feet, but in disclosure I have only shot round lead 177 caliber balls from an air rifle and that was many many years ago but I do not remember them being grossly inaccurate.
"What if he had no knife? In that case he would not be a good bushman so there is no need to consider the possibility." H.A. Lindsay, 1947