India is for guns like Cuba is for cars.

[Ramandeep]

I believe this thought must have crossed into every gun enthusiasts mind that how amazing the life would be if the import ban for weapons is lifted, this very idea in itself is very thrilling imagine our access to the world of amazing weapons would be open but contrary to the current situation i believe this is more like a tale from The Arabian Nights for us.
India is becoming a country with handful of legal gun license owners & their prized possession the Guns, which is i would say in some way is becoming a vintage sort of collection as there is no import so we have to be content around at the best may be 18 year old gun this thing of the entire guns in our great nation seems similar like that of CUBA. Cuba also has a condition like this in their country but its for cars, after Batista(last president of cuba before castro) was overthrown Fidel Castro came is as now we know is longest ruling dictator of all time posed a ban of import of cars so now the streets of Cuba are full of cars(running) which were made before 1960.

So in short i would like to say that Cuba is now a moving museum of vintage cars, well we dont live in Cuba(phew!) so lucky us but this would happen to our legitimate gun owners as time passes this import ban law prevails what kind of guns would we have in our country in next 20 years.
When would it be possible for an honorable citizen of India to possess a world class weapon at the right price i wonder when. I myself drool over those polymer coated handguns which sadly is far from not even from reach but the sight.It is a fact that IOF can never ever produce a world class weapon they dont even justify the price. So what options are we left with i wonder what.
All i can i say is that GOD bless the honest gun enthusiast community of India..

[Priyan]

Never knew Cuba has import ban on cars. Speaking of communism, it never worked anywhere successfully except in ants I seriously wonder why people bash capitalism when they don't even get the right to gather in a place in large numbers without getting shot, Oh! Freedom of speech and uncensored internet is still a dream. About guns in India I'm sure soon there would be a total ban of firearm ownership and we'd have IndiansForBleachingCream then.

Cuba is now a moving museum of vintage cars

Slightly off topic but that line remind me of Vintage Point and Vintage Point remind me of Death
Proof and Death Proof remind me of the gun related talk the lead characters had while having dinner at a restaurant in the film. lol one made some funny comments like People who carry guns tend to get shot more than the people who don't and someone suggested about carrying pepper spray and knives. looks like they forgot the good ol' saying Never bring a knife to a gun fight
EDIT: I got a link to the scene (Viewer discretion advised. Contains sexual references and vulgar language)

[timmy]

Good point, Ramandeep! Never thought of it that way, but you have a good point.

Priyan, it is the opposite of India: India effectively bans imports of guns. Cuba has not banned the import of cars: They cannot afford new cars, and the USA has banned almost all trade with Cuba since 1961. So nobody in the USA can buy or sell very much to Cuba at all. We cannot even buy Cuban cigars in the USA. They cannot buy our cars.

[timmy]

Update:

You both were more right than me. Here's an article:

Raul Castro drops 50-year ban: Cubans allowed buying and selling cars

Until now, Cubans have only been permitted to sell each other vehicles built before the country's 1959 revolution, which has given long life to the US chrome and fin-tail antiques that swarmed pre-revolutionary Havana.
The new regulations, published in the Official Gazette, had been expected as part of a series of reforms being undertaken by President Raul Castro to ease state controls on the economy and encourage some forms of small-scale private enterprise.
The regulations provide for “the transfer of ownership of vehicles for purchase-sale or donation among Cubans living on the island or foreigners who are residents of Cuba.”
Ordinary Cubans will still be prevented from buying new cars, which are restricted under the new rules to buyers with dollars or convertible pesos engaged in “work on assignment by the state or in its interest”.
But tens of thousands of Cubans who were allowed to buy Soviet-made vehicles through their workplaces before 1990 will now be able to sell them legally.
Also on the market will be newer imports that the government has allowed artists, athletes and doctors working in overseas missions in places like Venezuela to bring home with them.
Foreigners living in Cuba will be allowed to buy or import up to two vehicles under the new rules. Cubans who emigrate -- some 38,000 a year -- will now be allowed to sell their vehicles or transfer ownership of them to family members.
For retired musician Lazaro Gonzalez, the new measures provide the long-awaited opportunity for him to buy a Russian Lada from his sister, who works in Chile.
”This (transaction) is something normal, which never should have been banned,“ Gonzalez said. ”It's another one of these absurd prohibitions that Raul Castro has removed since coming to power.”
Allowing car purchases and sales is seen as among the most important of some 300 reforms adopted in April by the Communist Party Congress, which aimed at keeping the centrally planned system from collapse but stopped short of embracing a market-led economy.
Other measures expected to shake up the lives of ordinary Cubans included introducing the right to buy or sell homes or receive a bank loan.
Most Cubans own their homes and do not pay taxes but have only been allowed to exchange, not sell them until now. Details on the home sales measure should be published before the end of the year.

from: http://en.mercopress.com/2011/09/29/rau ... lling-cars

I knew that they were buying Soviet stuff. They wouldn't buy Western stuff because Castro's government was very tight on hard currency, which they didn't have very much of. They had plenty of credit with the Bolsheviks, however, who subsidized them though the sugar purchases.

I didn't know that they couldn't sell cars to each other (or houses, for that matter).

Since the Bolsheviks lost power and quit subsidizing the Cuban economy, Hugo Chavez of Venezuela has taken over that role. But Cuba is still a very poor country. They do have a lot of doctors, however.

[timmy]

PS: I should mention that, whatever Raul wants to do, there's still the ban that President Kennedy imposed on trade with Cuba in 1961. The USA still will not allow businesses to trade with Cuba, whatever Raul allows or doesn't allow.

[goodboy_mentor]

All i can i say is that GOD bless the honest gun enthusiast community of India..

All I can say is God helps only those who help themselves. It is unfair to compare the situation in India with Cuba. Cuba has a communist dictatorship, the people cannot vote out the dictator or go to court against the ban.

But in India people have the choice to vote out the useless leaders or protest applying their minds or go to the courts. Who is preventing the gun enthusiasts to take result oriented steps? This import restriction if properly contested in court can be demolished. The unconstitutionality and illegality of this import restriction has been discussed at http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php ... 30#p146250

Who is compelling the "gun enthusiasts" to close their eyes, shut their brain and enthusiastically shell out lakhs of rupees to buy decades old "foreign made" junk or desi counterfeits stamped "foreign made"? Who is preventing them to open their eyes, use their brain, join hands and approach any High Court or Supreme Court and get this import restriction thrown into the trash?

[Ramandeep]

My whole point of comparing the situation of Cuba is merely symbolic, I m not comparing communism with DEMOCRACY i m just lighting up the fact of communist like situation in a democratic country. I agree to you goodboy_mentor that God helps those who help themselves but how much our system ridicule us in giving an arms license can be understood by an individual who has has applied or acquired an arms license, i myself have all India permit gun license of two weapons which i know how much bureaucratic red tapism i've gone through and how many silly windows i had to a cross to get the license and on top of that my annual cartridge buying limit is restricted to 25 bullets, how anyone can deal with that figure its like having a car with an annual fuel supply of 25 ltrs. what am i suppose to do that stockpile it for 10 years and use afterwards or keep it like a trophy and see it but cannot use it, but still i have faith & believe that if one is fully committed towards a goal than one can achieve anything..

So cheers to the high spirited gun enthusiast committee of India