Contributing money for legal expenses for filing appeal

[abhrankash]

what is the amount we will have to deposited will the depositing by cheque I am ready to fight for the noble cause because I think govt has no rights to govern the mood of our offspring if she or he wants to play with a toy gun or air gun what is harm in it?

[Frosty]

Hi Mods / Guys

Kindly let me know who has finalised to take on this legal battle, NRAI or the RKBA group, and whats the modus operandi behind our action, would like to know how much contribution we all need to build up to meet up the financial hurdles for this battle, and finally what would be the prefered route for accepting the contributions, who is the treasury officer / incharge.

I am glad we are raising our voices as a united community, this is a +ve start.

Gentlemen lets make it happen and create history by winning a judgement in favour of gun loving people of India, which would be a first.

Regrads
Frosty

[Vikram]

BTT.

[fantumfan2003]

For my view limited only to airguns. I agree RKBA should be the larger view.

M.

Guys,

I sincerely apologise for my myopic view.

I am sorry.

M.

[sa_ali]

I agree it should be fight RKBA, but lets start with what we have momentum on and fight for airgun also.

My contribution will be in another 2 days.

Mods i would request if we can put it on top all the time, so ppl see it and read it. It should not get buried in the forum.

[nagarifle]

i for one will give noting.

reason is simple i do not back cases that would get thrown out.

someone i never heard of comes along and wants money to make an appeal, is not the one i would go for, one has to know what is one doing or else end up loosing, it is far better not to fight a case that can be lost.

any layer would tell you that your case is winner able. why ? he is getting paid win or loose. if a lawer says no win no fees. then i will back it up with money.

one needs to have a good layer and a good winnable case or else waste of money .

thats my lot on the subject

[bandook]

i for one will give noting.

reason is simple i do not back cases that would get thrown out.

someone i never heard of comes along and wants money to make an appeal, is not the one i would go for, one has to know what is one doing or else end up loosing, it is far better not to fight a case that can be lost.

any layer would tell you that your case is winner able. why ? he is getting paid win or loose. if a lawer says no win no fees. then i will back it up with money.

one needs to have a good layer and a good winnable case or else waste of money .

thats my lot on the subject

u make no sense at all a good lawyer would demand a good amount for d case and no body can gv a surety about winning a case.......
can u gurantee me how many years u r going to live its easy sitting at home and passing comments if u dnt trust the guy who is fighting the case why dont u join him and see how much efforts he is putting in............r u willing to do to delhi and help for the cause willing to spend time do u know how much does it takes to file an appeal in a supreme court if u had any idea u wouldnt be talking the way u did.......every case has a 50-50 % winning or loosing chance the question is are we going to sit around and or do something about it the expenses required for the case is too much for an individual or an organization to bear thats why financial support it required.....
girish sharma is fighting for the case and acception donations for d same he is a credible guy who is working very hard we should help him financialy or in any other way possible

[Virendra S Rathore]

I have no issues supporting even the Air gun struggle (after all I got only an air rifle yet). But, what does NAGRI have to say about this donation drive? Sorry I don't know the man/organization asking for money here. Are they old members of IFG or were they in touch at any point of time in past?
I donated for NAGRI and can do that again for these guys as well but I know very little right now and would like to know more. I'm willing to help by money and man power but can these people please provide more information on what they're planning to do exactly and how.

Waiting to hear back soon.

Regards,
Virendra

[goodboy_mentor]

people please provide more information on what they're planning to do exactly and how.

Exactly it needs to be clarified the fight is going to be about what?
Will the fight be for:
a) Oh my Lord please restore the "exemption" for air guns because Delhi HC has overstepped its jurusdiction and did not take into account all the material facts like Section 42 of Arms Act 1959!
Or
b) I don't care about your "exemption" or "no exemption" because anyways RKBA is my fundamental right under Articles 19 and 21 by taking a stand something like this: http://www.lawyersclubindia.com/forum/R ... -36011.asp

[dr.jayakumar]

the whole politics and laws in india is to confuse you.now, again they have succeeded!

[nagarifle]

u make no sense at all...

this is the reason i do not make sense

All air rifle/gun lovers are welcome to contribute by depositing for case at SOUTH INDIAN BANK LTD, Brabourne Road Branch, Kolkata-700001 A/C No.02620530000068Air pi12.IFSC CODE-SIBL0000262. in favour of "Toy Air gun, Air rifle,Air pistol & Pellets Manufactures (W) Association"
Kishori

-- Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:25 pm --

Correction in Bank A/C np PL
All air rifle/gun lovers are welcome to contribute by depositing for case at SOUTH INDIAN BANK LTD, Brabourne Road Branch, Kolkata-700001 A/C No.0262053000006812.IFSC CODE-SIBL0000262. in favour of "Toy Air gun, Air rifle,Air pistol & Pellets Manufactures (W) Association"
Kishori

now kishri Mondal joined the forum few months back. who is asking us to deposit money in some bank account, so that the air gun makers association can take my money and fight their court cases, as it would appear that their shop will close if air guns are licensed.

why can not the air gun makers Association pay for their court legal fees? after all if they all gave something then i should not have to pay for air gun makers who for years ripping of the public. so why should i bail out their business? also why has not the All India gundealers Asso take part since they are far more loaded them me?

now tell me i do not make sense ?

i agree with Goodboy statement.

[OverUnderPump]

I would side with GBM and Nags on this:
Being gun nuts, we all like to see the target(read-sense) before we shoot to increase our chances of success.

The first case that was fought on the airgun issue was lost to the 'enlightened' PFA/PETA crowd. This 'fresh appeal fundraiser' needs to learn from the mistakes of the first case before embarking on the legal warpath, and for that 'consultation' is of paramount importance.

We need to know the approach and whats going to be done and how, if not on this open forum; then through the channels of NAGRI. Its all hard earned money for a good cause, so all the more reason that it shouldnt go to waste. Continuing with the 'myopic'; its only affecting airguns or firearms viewpoints wont get us anywhere.All enthusiasts, manufacturers and athletes et all need to come together for RKBA. Because unless we do, our rights will be eroded, group by successive group.

I would rather have an appeal made under RKBA, if we are clubbing our resources together.

regards

OUP

[girrish sharma]

Dear,
It is upto the gun lover's to contribute or not. For kind information the judgement was passed in 2002 on Air rifle license on PIL case filed By People of Animals headed By Ms. Maneka Gandhi. In their appeal they hv projected air rifle as if used as sikar(Hunting)for killing birds only.
It was the effort of Toy Air rile mfg. assn. with NRAI in 2002 who filed review petition and stay petition in Delhi High Court against their Judgement on quashing GSR991. The stay was granted by Hon'ble High Court till last month when court passed final judgement that they can not re-open the case after they hv passed a judgment in 2002.
In last 9 years Mr. Sharma never made any appeal for contribution but now cost of Supreme Court expenses r too high to meet individually
Kishori

[fantumfan2003]

Kishori,

I think people over here are interested in knowing as to how you are going to put up the case in Supreme Court. They need complete details about how the case has been put up.

Manish

Dear,
It is upto the gun lover's to contribute or not. For kind information the judgement was passed in 2002 on Air rifle license on PIL case filed By People of Animals headed By Ms. Maneka Gandhi. In their appeal they hv projected air rifle as if used as sikar(Hunting)for killing birds only.
It was the effort of Toy Air rile mfg. assn. with NRAI in 2002 who filed review petition and stay petition in Delhi High Court against their Judgement on quashing GSR991. The stay was granted by Hon'ble High Court till last month when court passed final judgement that they can not re-open the case after they hv passed a judgment in 2002.
In last 9 years Mr. Sharma never made any appeal for contribution but now cost of Supreme Court expenses r too high to meet individually
Kishori

[hillsman]

Hi all,

I have read through the posts and i do not see an explanation on how the contributions will help. where does it go? Toy Air rifle assn? i see a lot of members ready to contribute to this cause so maybe they have some info that i don't.. can some senior members or Mr. Kishori please clarify?

thanks