What is the asking price ? Any pictures available ?Ash wrote: there is a semi .22 brand new ruger rifle with a dealer in lucknow. it also has spare barrel and spare mag. the spare barrel is in titanium. its an amazing rifle with a folding butt looks like47. let me know if intrstd.
Well I've had my Marlin for twenty years. All India License and decent ammo quota. The Delhi Police inspects my rifle everytime and inquire about the magazine capacity and all. Once the armourer even asked how many at a go and I told him straight,"One at a time." Just renewed the license some days back, the guy handled the rifle, tokk a look down the bore and then checked the serial number. I had also been competing in small bore and air pistol just to be safe.hamiclar01 wrote:One of our members here has a semi .22 in Delhi.
If only he'd spend less time fishing and contribute his legal experience
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.Not so. If the semi is cleaned after every box of IOF ammo, it will shoot till the cows come home. Plus if you use slightly hot rounds then even stove piping isn't an issue. Bolts don't even come close to the rush of emptying a magazine down range from a good semi. An occasional stove pipe with a KF is pretty to easy to clear if you know your rifle.puru baruah wrote:and also for the fact that the guns in India are 30-40years old..and these guns keeps circulating in India..u can never expect to get a brand new rifle here but only 2nd hand or third hand and so on..and never know upto the mark they were used..also here gud semi auto rifles are scanty,and would recquire luck to find those.and also taking in mind that no owner is goin 2 sell a gud semi auto rifle here provided if he has having sum problems with the rifle or other personal reasons..before i bought my bolt action ,i even had a firing trial of 10 rounds each of the Remington and Winchester semi auto.,after a couple of fire it tends to jam..,cases get stuck while ejectin etc...So finaly when u look at the age and handling,relaibility and maintainance..a bolt action seems a better option in India...and user friendly than a semi auto ..provided dat u get a brand new semi auto.but its impossible in India
Well, I had to flush you outdev wrote:
No offense taken at your rudeness Hami, know you are getting old and crabby
i still dont know what you try to say herepuru baruah wrote:There are certain other things in a BOLT ACTION RIFLE is the ACCURACY and the fact that i need to reload every shot means that i shouldn't miss it ....But with a SEMI AUTO i am tempted to fire shots in succession and miss .....With the BOLT ACTION RIFLE i take my time and aim makes me a much better player .....[ REMINDER = BOLT ACTION RIFLE ARE EVEN BETTER AT MID-TO LONG RANGE ] ....Though SEMI AUTO RIFLE are ACCURATE ,,,,,,but are not as PRECISE as a BOLT ACTION RIFLE..........If u consider yourself a SEMI AUTO...Ask yourself how often do u maintain your rifle?????????.........U need to clean , lubricate , a Semi Auto each and every time you are done with shooting...Thus things will rust,chamber rust,,gas system clog if not kept clean....But that doesn't mean that u don't have to clean a BOLT ACTION RIFLE,,,,,,they are more mantainence free....[ JUST TAKE OUT THE BOLT AND DIP A CLOTH WITH OIL AND JUST YANK IT THROUGH THE BARREL WITH A LACE TWICE OR THRICE .....ITS CLEAN ENOUGH ....AND RUB THE BOLT AND THE INSIDE PART WHICH IS VERY EASY IN ACCESSING WITH THE PICE OF CLOTH FIRMLY DIP IN OIL,,,,,,,,,DATS IT ....SIMPLE ENOUGH...]..............................And remember whether HUNTING/SHOOTING ,,,,,,,BOLT ACTION RIFLE remember " I SHOT ONE KILL ".....The Bolt Action speaks for itself.......AND Remember """"A BOLT ACTION RIFLE has a HIGHER VELOCITY than a SEMI AUTO....but Semi Auto have more ENERGY(high rate of fire)
MoA wrote:Puru: With all due respect you can achieve one shot one kill with any decent semi in any caliber. Yes Bolt Actions are more accurate and precise when you get into accuracy and precision.
If your rifle maintenance consists of oil alone, then that is not maintenance.
In .22 LR typically I will clean mine semi or bolt about 1-2K rounds down the barrel. I do not bother otherwise. Pistol or rifle. (Other than the P22).
The velocity of a round is a function of energy and barrel length. A hgiher rate of fire does not equate to higer energy. If you have an issue with controlling the rate of fire with a semi, then well frankly that is your issue.
Yes for Bench Rest I will pick a bolt action due to the harmonics of the weapon every time. Because I am chasing precision. Precision shooting is not always accuracy and vice versa.
To clarify I use my 6 BR for precision. I average 0.3 inch or under at 100 M for 5 shot groups that is precision. However I keep the POI about 3/4 inch above PoA which is not accurate. My K 31 is accurate. It typically will hit PoA but the PoI is not anywhere close to that of the 6 BR.
The maintenance of a bolt action versus a semi versus an auto versus a pump action et al is dependent more on design rather than the nature of the action. It needs to be done, and will be done. It does not play into which is better. An AK type design can be buried in the ground and will function flawlessly while an AR will not stand up to simillar abuse, or a Stolle Panda bolt for that matter.
with you MoA
We were talking about .22 LR here, weren't we? What's your definition of mid to long range for a .22 LR? What kind of precision are you looking for that can't be delivered by a semi-auto over a bolt when using .22 LR ammo. This might sound facetious but If you are using KF, I guarantee almost any semi-auto will be able to deliver more accuracy that the ammo will be capable of.REMINDER = BOLT ACTION RIFLE ARE EVEN BETTER AT MID-TO LONG RANGE ] ....Though SEMI AUTO RIFLE are ACCURATE ,,,,,,but are not as PRECISE as a BOLT ACTION RIFLE.........
Says who? You can run a truly large amount of ammo through a .22 (without cleaning it) semi-auo before it will start to malfunction. Some of the farms out here have .22 LR tube-fed semi-auto rifles that were probably made when FDR was president and have seen very little cleaning.U need to clean , lubricate , a Semi Auto each and every time you are done with shooting.
While have handled a few .22 LR semi-auto rifles, I have never seen a gas operated .22 LR...Thus things will rust,chamber rust,,gas system clog if not kept clean..
I'd like to dispel one misconception here. You have been watching too much TV if you don't think there is no dust in America or Canada. As for washing my car, I'm very lucky if I make it a week with the car looking like it hasn't been washed recently. You forget that both America and Canada have huge land masses of which the cities occupy but a very small portion of. We also drive in the country, where not all the roads are perfect. Dust and dirt are par for the course if you are out hunting. Legally you can't hunt or shoot out of doors in most cities so your firearms are going to be exposed to dust and dirt when you take them out into the field.And in canada or USA dont have dust for excample in USA / Canada if you wash your car once and u dont need to wash it for 15 days but in india u just take ur car ones from ur Village home ad go to for a short drivving means just drive it for 15 KMS u may need to wash it or clean the dirt,
If your tubular mag is so dirty that it has problems feeding, you need to get off your lazy butt and clean it. Don't blame the design for a failure on the owners part. There are still tubular magazine rifles in use that were made in the depression and before that give perfect service.you even tubuler magzine .22 riffle have problems in india such as BSA or any other brand with tubuler mag, that is beacuse we do have lot of dust blowing when we go to hunt or practice u just cant put into its cover and take it out when u see some birds, i have gone with these problems with a tubuler mag riffle but
Baljit, well i completely agree with you.i have a Ruger .22LR at Jalandhar,Punjab and it isn't at all hard to keep a semiauto .22 here.Just WD40 spray and a full-through,that's all you need.Baljit wrote:Hi, Kenny what i understand is semiauto gun is Prohibited in India so how he know about semiauto rifle, i have 5 semiauto rifles and i dont know how many time i clean and oil those parts never have a problum ,i dont know why you said you easly get the parts? why you need a new parts?, in India if you have a choice only for bolt action then stick with that , i just like to say this semiauto rifles is not that complicated if you know what you doingKenny wrote:You Live in canada and u easly get parts but in india no parts and note even some good cleaning stuf is found and u know how gunsmiths r in=india foreign country is better and lot of choices there but in india u allways get 2nd hand riffles and u even dont how it has been used so in india is allaways better the simple riffles or guns so i must say bolt action is the best for all purrose
Baljit
Well i would prefer Win super-X over CCI Mini Mag and Stinger is obviously good.Well,KF's pretty well too.dev wrote:Yes wd 40 and a clean barrel is all the care that it takes. Slightly hot ammo also helps, mine was accompanied by CCI Mini mags worked like a dream team. I also shot a load of stingers thru mine as I somehow loved the bullet at one time or maybe it was available at a semi-reasonable price. Now I don't cause of the price and the Marlin advisory against Stingers for their semis. The joke is that mine handles KF's pretty okay ha...ha.