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Re: Blade Length

Post by abhrankash » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:54 am

Subal das wrote:thanks you very much for your time and efforts, you are absolutely right design of this blade are seriously flown, it look flashy, but when it come to work it simply do not perform.

I would suggest to leave it is as it is for Extrima to improve and wait for Katana or some other members to come with traditional kukris.

I read some bad reviews about handle also and I agree for such blade handle is unappropriated.

that handle much better

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Re: Blade Length

Post by Subal das » Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:00 pm

great job, you should become first Indian knife designer

only I think hand guard should be little longer, or even like 10mm longer, in case of push cut it can be significant, to prevent slippage

some time ago on this link was available 100 s of pattern's of knives designed by Lloyd Harding, Western Australian Master knife maker

http://www.hurleyknives.com/lloyd.html

now it is gone, but I got it before, it is free as tribute to Lloyd Harding

your model far more professional, but I think you may like to see the way those old timers were designing

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Re: Blade Length

Post by abhrankash » Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:52 pm

Subal das wrote:great job, you should become first Indian knife designer

only I think hand guard should be little longer, or even like 10mm longer, in case of push cut it can be significant, to prevent slippage

some time ago on this link was available 100 s of pattern's of knives designed by Lloyd Harding, Western Australian Master knife maker

http://www.hurleyknives.com/lloyd.html

now it is gone, but I got it before, it is free as tribute to Lloyd Harding

your model far more professional, but I think you may like to see the way those old timers were designing

if any one need Lloyd's patterns please PM me

Dear sir,
Actually that's not the handle but that's the tang of the blade you have to fix a handle of your choice and and your spec. so that you can change the CD of the hole in accordance to your suitability this is corrected form of the knife that you had send me (the pics).
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Re: Blade Length

Post by abhrankash » Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:22 pm

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Re: Blade Length

Post by eljefe » Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:33 pm

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thats a very unusual design - tanto geometry on a basic khukri!
any idea when you can translate this onto a prototype? Interesting...what would you want to use? 440C is easily available in most places, 5 mm thickness? Rc 56?
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Re: Blade Length

Post by abhrankash » Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:38 pm

eljefe wrote:Abhranksh
thats a very unusual design - tanto geometry on a basic khukri!
any idea when you can translate this onto a prototype? Interesting...what would you want to use? 440C is easily available in most places, 5 mm thickness? Rc 56?
Sir,
prototype is possible
Now the question arises that you want to have of actual material or of the prototype fillers?
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Re: Blade Length

Post by eljefe » Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:44 pm

I think if you have a tech background, 440C is a good material to start with.
Only flaw is tanto geometry is more for stabbing.
Khukri is more of a weight derived, claymore type, slashing blade...
Dont tell that to a Nepali though.I've seen a grizzled old subedar of 3/5 GR, carve a tooth pick with a khukri 8)
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Re: Blade Length

Post by abhrankash » Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:57 pm

eljefe wrote:I think if you have a tech background, 440C is a good material to start with.
Only flaw is tanto geometry is more for stabbing.
Khukri is more of a weight derived, claymore type, slashing blade...
Dont tell that to a Nepali though.I've seen a grizzled old subedar of 3/5 GR, carve a tooth pick with a khukri 8)
Well I am a Design Engineer if you go through my profile you will get to know about me!!
kindly tell me the material you want to have is it 440C
or any other steel material will do the work?
but as far as my knowledge is concern about the steel if you are having the spring steel then its very good make any kind of knife you want but its difficult to get these kind of steel in such small quantity!
but if you are in Delhi and having the steel with you then I can help you on manufacturing the blade.


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Re: Blade Length

Post by shooter » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:09 pm

dear abhranksh i agree with eljefe.
Unusual design for a khukri.
One of the few blades in the world to have forward curve. Making it a great weight derived slashing weapon.

The indentation at the near-hilt part of the blade is traditionally "w" shaped (roughly).
I dont want to go into a debate re: its origin etc.
Yours is a smooth indentation but since it has no useful practical purpose, any special reason for having it or is it just aesthetics?

I also agree with subal das' idea to have the handle tang a bit longer.

All in all any thing redesigned should result in something better or a more advanced/corrected previous shortcomings etc.
I understand that a khukri is pretty efficient at what it does. Ive seen a buffalo beheaded in a single stroke of a khukri.
I hope you field test your model too.
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Re: Blade Length

Post by abhrankash » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:20 pm

shooter wrote:dear abhranksh i agree with eljefe.
Unusual design for a khukri.
One of the few blades in the world to have forward curve. Making it a great weight derived slashing weapon.

The indentation at the near-hilt part of the blade is traditionally "w" shaped (roughly).
I dont want to go into a debate re: its origin etc.
Yours is a smooth indentation but since it has no useful practical purpose, any special reason for having it or is it just aesthetics?

I also agree with subal das' idea to have the handle tang a bit longer.

All in all any thing redesigned should result in something better or a more advanced/corrected previous shortcomings etc.
I understand that a khukri is pretty efficient at what it does. Ive seen a buffalo beheaded in a single stroke of a khukri.
I hope you field test your model too.

Dear Shooter Sir,
In this case this is the actual design of a authentic Khukri that I am having at my home in Bhubaneswar.
If you want to modify the design and you want some curves to be modified then its also ok with me kindly mark up suggestions and I will try my level best to design a blade that suit the specs. of fellow members.

yes near the health that use to be W shaped, sir don't worry modified design will be posted soon!!
any other suggestions kindly let me know.
All your comments and suggestions will be medals for me.
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Re: Blade Length

Post by eljefe » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:22 pm

Well, for starters, I am a bit embarassed being 'sir-ed' :P
what I (we?) would like to see is possibly a prototype machined from spring patti,atleast 5mm thick
what material for the handle?
The C shaped gap is a 'choil' or close to it, I think
If you have a tapering , rat tail profile tang, it will fit better into a wood handle-traditional- and absorb the shock of working better
OR, extend the tang to run the whole length of the handle, glue/rivet/ or use brass nut and bolts-google 'loveles,knife designs ' and see his style.No shame to use a design like that.Tribute to Bob and his great designs
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Re: Blade Length

Post by abhrankash » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:30 pm

well as far as my knowledge is concern it is always good to have bolted handles rather than that of a pointed tang.
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Re: Blade Length

Post by eljefe » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:32 pm

Well, we could try both.There's another way, called 'hidden pins'
Whats the handle material?

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Re: Blade Length

Post by abhrankash » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:55 pm

its the integer part of the total blade
its of the same material as of the blade!!
but the thickness are different only so that you can get two different area to work with and the wooden handle will fit with the ease.
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Re: Blade Length

Post by Subal das » Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:52 pm

abhrankash wrote:Here is one more for the knife lovers
superb quality model

only edge area must be wider, on that angle it will be quite dull knife

and handle must be much longer 90 mm is too short

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