import duty on air guns (RTI)

[Rajat]

A 14 year girl from Madurai Rifle club is fighting with the custom to get her air rifle cleared. The case is pending for last 6 months. Customs confirmed that they are ready to clear an Air gun but not an Air Rifle As per notification of DGFT no where we can see Air rilfe mentioned and customs are not ready to do meaningful meanings.

This is a typical example of the interpretations of rules / language by the customs or for that matter any other govt. dept.

So I would remind all of the above that their interpretations of whether or not .22 Air rifles / pistols can be imported with or without duty may not withstand the test.

Bug them until you have something on paper in hand and even then you may have to fight while importing.

Trust me on this as I have plenty of experience with the customs.

-- Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:17 pm --

This is not to contradict anyone but have you seen the amendments to the RTI act ?

If the information lies with another department now the PIO will not forward the information to that department but will inform you and you will have to do it yourself.

You cannot ask questions, ask the PIO to create information or draw conclusions as per the current guidelines. The PIO will only give you the information in the form it exists with him and you will have to interpret and draw all conclusions.

First they arm you with a sword and then they make it blunt.

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[Subal das]

Bug them until you have something on paper in hand and even then you may have to fight while importing.

it may go smooth and it can get stack, you never know. for those who lives in large cities with own foreign custom will make sense to ship rifle via GATI, because GATI will do custom clearance in your city. Like in Hyderabad in my case. But exporter have to be agree to do that. that can save good amount of money on travel expenses to Delhi.

If import is allowed only for personal use, how those authorized Diana dealers importing rifles for commerce?

[Biren]

A 14 year girl from Madurai Rifle club is fighting with the custom to get her air rifle cleared. The case is pending for last 6 months. Customs confirmed that they are ready to clear an Air gun but not an Air Rifle As per notification of DGFT no where we can see Air rilfe mentioned and customs are not ready to do meaningful meanings.

This is a typical example of the interpretations of rules / language by the customs or for that matter any other govt. dept.

So I would remind all of the above that their interpretations of whether or not .22 Air rifles / pistols can be imported with or without duty may not withstand the test.

Bug them until you have something on paper in hand and even then you may have to fight while importing.

Trust me on this as I have plenty of experience with the customs.

-- Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:17 pm --

This is not to contradict anyone but have you seen the amendments to the RTI act ?

If the information lies with another department now the PIO will not forward the information to that department but will inform you and you will have to do it yourself.

You cannot ask questions, ask the PIO to create information or draw conclusions as per the current guidelines. The PIO will only give you the information in the form it exists with him and you will have to interpret and draw all conclusions.

First they arm you with a sword and then they make it blunt.

.

Now if they say Its Air Gun in .177 calibre which can be imported, then by same corollory where is it written that air rifles are under restricted category? If nowhere its written then air rifles are freely importable whereas Air guns are under restricted category:
Cheers
Biren

[Subal das]

another thing is that not all air guns/rifles/pistols are having cal .177 printed on gun itself, that can be a big obstacle if it is not printed, it is not on Condor for example

[nagarifle]

i do not know what the fuss is all about, as it is as clear as mud.

[Rajat]

Its all about the import procedure of the .22 air guns now.

What I had meant about the gun : rifle thing is that even if the term used to describe the import does not match exactly the customs may still hold it for some reason. It is logical interpretation for almost every one but for the customs as t20 has pointed out.

What t20 has pointed out may seem strange almost to the extent of being absurd but I believe him and know that this can happen.

[t20]

Now if they say Its Air Gun in .177 calibre which can be imported, then by same corollory where is it written that air rifles are under restricted category? If nowhere its written then air rifles are freely importable whereas Air guns are under restricted category:
Cheers
Biren

You have a point Biren! I will share the same to her parents. By the way, they went to DGFT, chennai for clarification and they have been requested to write directly to delhi as chennai DGFT can do nothing.

[vmanicks]

Chennai DGFT at Shastri Bhawan has no head or tail clue.

During my experience with UPS they wanted me to get license from DGFT as my shipment had about 6 tins of pellets. Customs and UPS gave me a good chase for nearly 4 months

[vs.prabhu]

good work and thanks naga
regards
prabhu