12g IOF cartridge - Lethal Ball

[mundaire]

I very much doubt if the projectile would have had "carbon steel" vanes and that would be a major no no for use in a shotgun barrel. Just googled a bit and came up with the following discussion on shotgunworld:

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtop ... 24&start=0

HTH

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[ECHOFIGHTER]

Thank you Amit357, Thank you so much for your input.

[snIPer]

Many an animal has fallen to the old but deadly Ball cartridge - In one of Kenneth Andersons book i remember reading that his friend killed many tigers using only 12G Ball cartridges.
I think the key for accuracy in a ball cartridge is either fire factory loads which are reputed Or if you are changing the shot then ensure that the ball is seated firmly into the cup and then the wad crimped securely.
/S/

[shooter50]

The 12 bore with a ball was the preferred weapon of most who had to go into the jungle behind a wounded tiger or leopard, unless one owned a heavy expensive big bore double rifle.

[Risala]

Intresting thread on LG's,slugs,ball etc.....

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat ... art=1&vc=1

[arif_tuhama]

Hi all,
Has anyone come across ammo made by IOF called lethal Ball.

This says lethal ball but is actually chambered for buckshot.
I was told that this was the name under which buckshot was sold when produced by IOF a few years back - not exactly sure how many years back.

I presume it is not under production any longer.
Pics if any would be appreciated.
/S/

Hi!
arif_tuhama
well i think i have 1 with me ,which i got from my father ammo bag.after transferred his w.j.jeffery to me.surely i will post some snaps of it

[snIPer]

Much appreciated - Looking fwd to see the pics.
Thanks Mate
/S/

[sa_ali]

Hi

I am attaching pic of some of the balls variety that i have.

Interesting is that out of 5 that i have 2 are made by Kynoch, It seems they made it for Holland and Holland and Elley

Unfortunately i dont have concactile one

[arif_tuhama]

Hi! guys could any body tell me what is the meaning of FOR 5" CASE AS EMBOSSED ON BOTH OF MY 12 GUAGE SHOT GUN
BARREL SIZE 31" HAMMERED GUN
MAKER: KRUPP A.G.ESSEN 1951
STILL IN BRAND NEW SHAPE

[polman]

Hi sa_ali,

On your case which was made in the USA by Western you wil not find a casewal print because they never had one.
The brass one is a very interesting case and highly collectable.

Thanks for showing the pictures.

Regards rene

[snIPer]

Thanks Ali for the pics.
/S/

-- Thu Feb 03, 2011 14:45 --

Arif - can you please post close up snaps of the gun - that way it will be easier for us to help.
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[sa_ali]

Hi sa_ali,

On your case which was made in the USA by Western you wil not find a casewal print because they never had one.
The brass one is a very interesting case and highly collectable.

Thanks for showing the pictures.

Regards rene

Thanks for the info rene as the Western one, always intrigued me that as to how come so easily the print vanished , even when it was present on the much older one.

The brass one, like i mentioned that was spl ball cartridge developed for the Paradox gun by Holland and Holland. It was so effective that my grand father took Indian Gaur, with single neck shot. Considering the fact that Indian Gaur, has very thick skin.

[TwoRivers]

Hi! guys could any body tell me what is the meaning of FOR 5" CASE AS EMBOSSED ON BOTH OF MY 12 GUAGE SHOT GUN
BARREL SIZE 31" HAMMERED GUN
MAKER: KRUPP A.G.ESSEN 1951
STILL IN BRAND NEW SHAPE

Arif: That's a mysterious one. 1. Krupp was a steel maker. Produced special barrel steels. Also produced cannon, but never rifles or shotguns. 2. It is highly unlikely that "Krupp" was producing hammer shotguns, or anything else, other than perhaps steel, in 1951. Germany was under allied occupation. Production of weapons was not allowed. 3. Most likely a product of Darra Adam Khel, NWFP. 4. There is no 5" shotgun shell. 3", and now 3.5", but no 5" (yet).
5. Pictures would help to make a positive identification.

[hornet]

can i ask aquestion here please;what are specifictions on the ammo. provided . these days which is the best heavy 12 bore. ammo available in the market ;including the imported ones. moneywise not a q.either or what;can be answred. pl; help to provide info. hornet. do we still have eley grand prix inthe market; erlier they were the best.

[MoA]

Emeraude, Sauvestere, Federal, Wichester, Remington all make decent slug/brenekke ammunition.
Not sure is Eley manufactures 12 ga ammunition.