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Dangerous game rifle

Post by shooter50 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:22 pm

A rare beautiful 404 sold by Rodda in India and made on a Mauser M 98 action by Schuler of Germany. The rifle is chambered for the 404 Jeffrey cartridge. ( 404 EXP or the 10.75 x 73). The rifle is in its original form except for the Pachmayr recoil pad. The original buffalo horn butt plate gave a sore shoulder!! The rifle has a cape buffalo horn forend and pistol grip cap. It shows a rare foreend cross wedge to take up the recoil. The walnut is european with straight grain to give strength in holding up against heavy recoil. It was described by the German Gun Collectors Association as a rare masterpeice by August Schuler. The German markings are all beneath the Walnut to attract British buyers considering the Anglo- German rivalry of those years. A classic dangerous game rife, more than 80 years old but lovingly cared for It has a few bison and tigers to its name. The pictures dont do justice the rifle looks better in real
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Post by Anand » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:27 pm

A thing of beauty :) looks to have been kept in good condition. If only it could talk :shock: the stories it could tell us.
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Post by architectharsha » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:29 pm

Beautiful and well maintained :cpix:
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Post by Vikram » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:39 pm

Shooter50,

That is a very nice rifle you have there.If it is yours, my congratulations.Very well taken care of and a classic calibre in a classic configuration.

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Post by shooter50 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:00 pm

Thanks Vikram, I do own the rifle. was trying to edit the post and the pics seem to have all gone, when i try to add them again it says upload limit for the board reached. Till that is sorted out u can view the pics here:
http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy47 ... dda%20404/

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Post by Sakobav » Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:49 am

shooter50

This is a great gun and how wonderfully this has been maintained. Congratulations and please do post some history of the gun -- very heartening that such treasures are still left in India. WOW

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Post by shooter » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:57 pm

good to see an iron sight gun!
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Post by coltpython » Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:03 pm

great gun!! :)

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Post by mohansingh » Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:24 am

Wow what a rifle. Do you get 404 Ammo easily in India? Such a rifle would be a great draw in Africa. Is it for sale?

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Post by sa_ali » Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:40 pm

WOW, that a beauty and even better to see it so well maintained.

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Post by ganeshnayak » Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:57 pm

Very nice rifle.
How different is a 30-06 cartridge from this one?

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Re: Dangerous game rifle

Post by shooter50 » Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:46 pm

Thanks guys for the nice words. The 404 NE or the 10.75 x 73 as it is known in Germany is a dangerous game cartridge generating (in its modern loadings) more than 4500 ft pounds of energy. A typical modern load would be 400 grain bullets exiting the barrel at about 2300 fps. You can compare this with the 30-06, 180 grain bullets at 2700 fps and 2900 ft pounds of energy. The 404 is best suited for hunting dangerous game, on foot, at ranges withn 50 yards. In the Indian context it is not an all purpose rifle like the 30 06 but a possession for the enthusiast.
Cartridges in India can be imported. You are right such a rife is a prized possession in Africa and even the US. I am not too sure i want to sell it but it all depends on what you can offer :)
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Post by brihacharan » Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:09 am

Hi Shooter,
> A real feast for the eyes for every true gun aficianado. Great Pics.
> Looked very similar to the Winchester 30-06 model 1917 I owned sometime ago.
> Look after it well - Congrats.
> Suggest if all is well - take a trip to Africa - IFGian Prashant will give you some valuable tips.
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Post by icemanV » Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:44 pm

Like i had said earlier on Sudesh's post. The gems that keep coming out of the closets in our country are both gorgeous and priceless. I would like to suggest to you not to part with this piece but pass it on to the next generation after using it in your own lifetime.

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Post by eljefe » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:16 pm

shooter50 wrote:Thanks guys for the nice words. The 404 NE or the 10.75 x 73 as it is known in Germany is a dangerous game cartridge generating (in its modern loadings) more than 4500 ft pounds of energy. A typical modern load would be 400 grain bullets exiting the barrel at about 2300 fps. You can compare this with the 30-06, 180 grain bullets at 2700 fps and 2900 ft pounds of energy. The 404 is best suited for hunting dangerous game, on foot, at ranges withn 50 yards. In the Indian context it is not an all purpose rifle like the 30 06 but a possession for the enthusiast.
Cartridges in India can be imported. You are right such a rife is a prized possession in Africa and even the US. I am not too sure i want to sell it but it all depends on what you can offer :)
Cheers

Thats a Great find Shooter,Schueler wouldnt have had any problem in getting a 98 in a longish action, I guess approx 3.6 inches to take the 404 action.I think the Colombian k98 were long enough for this.
Hope you can get ammo to try it out? the new Woodleigh Hydrostatics have rave reviews and available in 404J
http://www.woodleighbullets.com.au/inde ... stabilised

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