IOF .22" vs. .32"

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IOF .22" vs. .32"

Post by T T » Sun May 30, 2010 8:42 pm

Is the IOF .22" revolver anyway inferior to IOF .32 revolver in terms of technology & reliability?

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Re: IOF .22" vs. .32"

Post by winnie_the_pooh » Sun May 30, 2010 9:20 pm

IOF .22 is a S&W rip off.Too bad it is a POS.Get the IOF .32 revolver instead.

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Re: IOF .22" vs. .32"

Post by T T » Sun May 30, 2010 9:58 pm

From legal point of view, if you fire a single shot on somebody, you can get enough mercy from the judge as there is scope to convince that you did that for self defense or in a fit of rage.
For firing multiple shots, there is little scope of getting mercy of the judge or benefit of doubt.
To attack somebody with the .22” toy, one have to fire multiple shots as affect will be small if the target is 10-15 feet away. But, a single shot from a .32” will do a lot even from greater distance.
So, from legal point of view, the .32” is safer than the .22”.

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Re: IOF .22" vs. .32"

Post by cottage cheese » Sun May 30, 2010 10:05 pm

Eh???? :?: :?:
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Re: IOF .22" vs. .32"

Post by m24 » Sun May 30, 2010 10:12 pm

cottage cheese wrote:Eh???? :?: :?:
It happens, CC, it happens.

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Re: IOF .22" vs. .32"

Post by cottage cheese » Sun May 30, 2010 10:14 pm

...For a moment I thought someone from the MHA had signed up.... :?
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Re: IOF .22" vs. .32"

Post by m24 » Sun May 30, 2010 10:18 pm

cottage cheese wrote:...For a moment I thought someone from the MHA had signed up.... :?
Don't think the white collars have such imagination. :)

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Re: IOF .22" vs. .32"

Post by vrohan59 » Sun May 30, 2010 10:20 pm

That's something new!!!!!!
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Re: IOF .22" vs. .32"

Post by axe » Sun May 30, 2010 11:04 pm

:agree:
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Re: IOF .22" vs. .32"

Post by shooter » Sun May 30, 2010 11:25 pm

winnie_the_pooh wrote:IOF .22 is a S&W rip off.Too bad it is a POS.Get the IOF .32 revolver instead.
:agree:
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Re: IOF .22" vs. .32"

Post by T T » Mon May 31, 2010 6:12 pm

Eh???? :?: :?:

Get opinion of a criminal lawyer.

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Re: IOF .22" vs. .32"

Post by The Doc » Mon May 31, 2010 8:13 pm

T T wrote:From legal point of view, if you fire a single shot on somebody, you can get enough mercy from the judge as there is scope to convince that you did that for self defense or in a fit of rage.
For firing multiple shots, there is little scope of getting mercy of the judge or benefit of doubt.
To attack somebody with the .22” toy, one have to fire multiple shots as affect will be small if the target is 10-15 feet away. But, a single shot from a .32” will do a lot even from greater distance.
So, from legal point of view, the .32” is safer than the .22”.
cottage cheese wrote:Eh???? :?: :?:
T T wrote: Get opinion of a criminal lawyer.
TT,
There is a world of difference between self defence and a fit of rage and in the court of law proving one's act was in self defence is a Herculean task. Taking a mercy plea because the shooter shot the other person "lesser" number of times ? Well I don't really think I'd be optimistic about that.

I think a quick read of Section 307 IPC would be in order ....

Section 307. Attempt to murder

Whoever does any act with such intention or knowledge, and under such circumstances that, if he by that act caused death, he would be guilty or murder, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to ten years, and shall also be liable to fine, and is hurt is caused to any person by such act, the offender shall be liable either to 1[imprisonment for life], or to such punishment as is hereinbefore mentioned.

Attempts by life convicts.-2 When any person offending under this section is under sentence of 1[imprisonment for life] he may, if hurt is caused, be punished with death].

Illustrations.

(a) A shoots at Z with intention to kill him, under such circumstances that, if death ensued. A would be guilty of murder. A is liable to punishment under this section.

(b) A, with the intention of causing the death of a child of tender years, exposes it is a desert place. A has committed the offence defined by this section, though the death of the child does not ensure.

(c) A, intending to murder Z, buys a gun and loads it. A has not yet committed the offence. A fires the gun at Z. He has committed the offence defined in this section, and if by such firing he wounds Z, he is liable to the punishment provided by the latter part of 3[the first paragraph of ] this section.

(d) A, intending to murder Z by poison, purchases poison and mixes the same with food which remains in A's keeping; A has not yet committed the offence defined in this section. A places the food on Z' s table or delivers it to Z's servant to place it on Z's table. A has committed the offence defined in this section.

Source ........ http://www.vakilno1.com/bareacts/indian ... e/S307.htm

I hope this helps,

best,

Rp.

PS. I would not call the .22lr caliber - a toy ! .22 rimfire of different types has been used by the CIA, the Mafia, and the Mossad for their "operations" where penetration at close range does the trick . Bobby Kennedy was assassinated with a .22lr revolver.
PPS. Like everyone says, IOF .22lr revolver is a POS ! :mrgreen:
It's always better to have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it !

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Re: IOF .22" vs. .32"

Post by T T » Mon May 31, 2010 10:11 pm

It's always better to have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it !!!
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-- Mon May 31, 2010 11:38 pm --
From legal point of view, if you fire a single shot on somebody, you can get enough mercy from the judge as there is scope to convince that you did that for self defense or in a fit of rage.
For firing multiple shots, there is little scope of getting mercy of the judge or benefit of doubt.
To attack somebody with the .22” toy, one have to fire multiple shots as affect will be small if the target is 10-15 feet away. But, a single shot from a .32” will do a lot even from greater distance.
So, from legal point of view, the .32” is safer than the .22”.
Actually I developed this idea after an informal chat with a lawyer friend. In case of murder or attempt to murder, period of imprisonment is less in case of firing a single shot and more in case of firing multiple shots, say three or four.

A court’s brain is the law book and a judge’s brain is his mind and his discretion. All these three factors are combined to give a judgment.
You read in newspapers- judiciary is corrupt; what is sold? The judges’ discretionary powers are sold.
Same laws can be interpreted in different ways to suit the situation. Mastering it some lawyers like Kapil Sibbal charge Rs 1 lakh for 10 minute consultation.

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