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I want to start pistol shootin

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:30 am
by amarinder
I want to start pistol shooting with the only one aim .i.e it to compete at highest level.And I have heard that to compete internationally, one needs really low pulse rate like 40 beats per minute but mine is 60.

I am hesitant that no matter how much hard work I do, I wont be able to be the best best because of higher pulse rate which leads to extra body movement.... :(

Tell me what to do...

Re: I want to start pistol shooting...but

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:17 pm
by doctor
the normal pulse is approx 72/min, consider yourself lucky, try yoga and meditate with open eyes , it will help.

Re: I want to start pistol shooting...but

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:02 pm
by gverma
Pulse rate is least of your problems.
Try out shooting.... Eventually you will learn to shoot between heartbeat's

Re: I want to start pistol shooting...but

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:07 am
by dev
gverma wrote:Pulse rate is least of your problems.
Try out shooting.... Eventually you will learn to shoot between heartbeat's
Really? How?

Re: I want to start pistol shooting...but

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:36 pm
by gverma
Here is a more detailed explanation.

The individual in question wants to learn how to shoot and looks like the person wants to learn ISSF shooting.

Now when the individual will start learning the sport they will start with just shooting then grouping and eventually timing the shot (which means shooting each shot in same interval of time). They will learn exercises like holding, breathing and breath control and may be they will use tools like SCATT.

Over a period of time relaxation and Yoga will come in to control breathing.

Finally when ready you will be able to shoot 10's after a 1 Km hike when your heartbeat is erratic.

Re: I want to start pistol shooting...but

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:39 pm
by dev
From what I have read shooting between heart beats applies more to rifle shooting. If I remember correctly one can't do it while pistol shooting. Please feel free to let me know if I am wrong and explain if it can be done.

Apologies for going OT.

Re: I want to start pistol shooting...but

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:01 pm
by amarinder
gverma wrote:Here is a more detailed explanation.

The individual in question wants to learn how to shoot and looks like the person wants to learn ISSF shooting.

Now when the individual will start learning the sport they will start with just shooting then grouping and eventually timing the shot (which means shooting each shot in same interval of time). They will learn exercises like holding, breathing and breath control and may be they will use tools like SCATT.

Over a period of time relaxation and Yoga will come in to control breathing.

Finally when ready you will be able to shoot 10's after a 1 Km hike when your heartbeat is erratic.

Yes, you are right..I want to learn ISSF shooting..

But Is somebody aware that what is the pulse rate of olympic shooter (at rest)..Ofcourse you can lower your heart beat through meditation but the difference cannot be too much like lowering from 60 beats per minute to 40 beats....


Just Remove my doubt that I really need to have heart beat around 40 to compete at the level of olympics final...

Re: I want to start pistol shooting...but

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:05 pm
by bodhijobs
amarinder wrote:
gverma wrote:Here is a more detailed explanation.

The individual in question wants to learn how to shoot and looks like the person wants to learn ISSF shooting.

Now when the individual will start learning the sport they will start with just shooting then grouping and eventually timing the shot (which means shooting each shot in same interval of time). They will learn exercises like holding, breathing and breath control and may be they will use tools like SCATT.

Over a period of time relaxation and Yoga will come in to control breathing.

Finally when ready you will be able to shoot 10's after a 1 Km hike when your heartbeat is erratic.

Yes, you are right..I want to learn ISSF shooting..

But Is somebody aware that what is the pulse rate of olympic shooter (at rest)..Ofcourse you can lower your heart beat through meditation but the difference cannot be too much like lowering from 60 beats per minute to 40 beats....


Just Remove my doubt that I really need to have heart beat around 40 to compete at the level of olympics final...
Pulse rate around 40 for competing at the level of Olympics???? :shock:

There is a detailed topic on pistol shooting in IFG only, I haven't read any of the gurus saying this...

Regards
BD

Re: I want to start pistol shooting...but

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:47 pm
by nupadhya
I don’t think heart/pulse rate is what you should be focused on at this stage, or for that matter the Olympics Finals. If you want to learn shooting, get to it, hold the weapon, feel it and become one with it - then it shoots straight. You will know when to shoot - your body will tell you when to pull the trigger. When you do become good, and can control breathing, by then, your heart rate would also have gone down. With larger lung capacity, ability to concentrate all the rest falls in place...even the heart rate. Believe me. Just shoot, build the muscles, tone the body to be able to shoot the 60+10 shots. Even the yoga (as some one mentions - righly) will come automatically - you will know when.

Re: I want to start pistol shooting...but

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:15 am
by amarinder
nupadhya wrote:I don’t think heart/pulse rate is what you should be focused on at this stage, or for that matter the Olympics Finals. If you want to learn shooting, get to it, hold the weapon, feel it and become one with it - then it shoots straight. You will know when to shoot - your body will tell you when to pull the trigger. When you do become good, and can control breathing, by then, your heart rate would also have gone down. With larger lung capacity, ability to concentrate all the rest falls in place...even the heart rate. Believe me. Just shoot, build the muscles, tone the body to be able to shoot the 60+10 shots. Even the yoga (as some one mentions - righly) will come automatically - you will know when.

Thanks for replying...

The reason I am asking about the pulse rate is that many former Army Personal ,especially in US,enter into this sport after they retire. And these guys have gone through intense physical training and thus, they have low pulse..


I was just wondering that if, I am gonna beat these marines, then I need to be good at every small point and pulse rate is one of them. I am not gonna start shooting for my entertainment. I have had enough of silly entertainment for 23 years. Shooting is going to be serious stuff and it is going to take me to podium in Olympics..

Re: I want to start pistol shooting...but

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:58 am
by dev
So let's start at least at the national levels. Once you score 570, the country will take care of you and your pulse rate or heartbeat or whatever you are concerned with.

Re: I want to start pistol shooting...but

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:05 pm
by sagar
Hi Amarinder,
If you Enter shooting sport with 'IFs and BUTs' then how do you proceed ?
Stop Doubting yourself and form your opinions based on your Results.
Its good to think about Olympics but It is high up on the Ladder, place your step on the First step and then move ahead.
All the Best for your Shooting.

Re: I want to start pistol shooting...but

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:29 pm
by gverma
Buddy pick a pistol or rifle and start shooting everything else will fall into place.

Start running, Yoga (Pranayams and Surya Namaskar)
Start meditation

If you need details PM me.

Re: I want to start pistol shooting...but

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:57 pm
by Safarigent
The more you do aerobic exercises, the lower your resting heert rate becomes.
Its as simple as that.
The stronger and more conditioned the muscles of your heart, higher amount of blood is pumped out with each heart beat.
So start exercising and your heart rate will come down over time itself.

Re: I want to start pistol shooting...but

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:47 pm
by amarinder
:cheers: Thanks to All for replying. I think I got the answer I wanted....