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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by vikram.dutta » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:23 pm

Hi AGN,

I contacted Capapie Sports Equipments and awaiting their reply. I will also talk to Vishwajeet Shinde.

I am a rank beginner in shooting and will only start serious shooting practice once I get my own gun. So MAWC or any competition for that matter is at least 6 months to 1 year’s proper practice away. :) Anyways, thanks a lot for the update and your wishes. Are you going for the MAWC? My best wishes for you! If I get the dates, I might very well see you in action. :cheers:
major wrote:Hi everyone,

I am new to pistol shooting and following hvj guruji's tips since two weeks. While browsing through this forum, came across the NTP. If anyone has it, kindly reply.

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Hi Major,
You can PM me your e-mail id and I will send across the NTP. :)

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by tirpassion » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:40 pm

Hi Major,
You can PM me your e-mail id and I will send across the NTP. :)

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Thanks for your initiative Vikram. I was just waiting for that.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by vikram.dutta » Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:53 pm

tirpassion wrote:Thanks for your initiative Vikram. I was just waiting for that.

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Tirpassion, it is a pleasure to be of the smallest use to this forum and this thread in particular which has given me so much. :D

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by major » Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:32 pm

Hi Vikram,

Thanks for sending me the NTP.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by vikram.dutta » Sat Sep 29, 2012 2:04 am

major wrote:Hi Vikram,

Thanks for sending me the NTP.

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Pleasure, Major... :)

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by hvj1 » Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:47 am

I say folks, it is my humble request that you stop calling VikramDutta as VD, Vikram please find yourself a suitable handle.
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by airgun_novice » Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:22 pm

vikram.dutta wrote:Hi AGN,

I contacted Capapie Sports Equipments and awaiting their reply. I will also talk to Vishwajeet Shinde.

I am a rank beginner in shooting and will only start serious shooting practice once I get my own gun. So MAWC or any competition for that matter is at least 6 months to 1 year’s proper practice away. :) Anyways, thanks a lot for the update and your wishes. Are you going for the MAWC? My best wishes for you! If I get the dates, I might very well see you in action. :cheers: [SNIP]

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Dear Vikram,

After almost 1.5-2 yr shooting, my experience is that if you wait for 6 mth then you might as well end up waiting 1 yr and should you wait 1 yr, it will drag on. Why ? Till you actually shoot you will not know where you fall short and how you react to match situation etc. Moreover there is that dreaded MQS that will only move northwards, i.e. keep on increasing. That does not mean that you do not do any 'mehanat' and show up at the Savarkar range once or twice a month (like a certain IFG member) and expect to do good. ROTFL Anyway, a small personal experience. I had just acquired my used FWB P34 that had leaking cylinders and a host of other problems and simply went and shot at Capt EZ 2011. Scored 323 when the MQS was only 335. Now it's 345 for AP-Men. I had to use both the cylinders and towards the end of each I could actually see pellets fly and hit the paper without making a hole. :-) They were considered as ZERO points. I had reached 339 early on (Dec 2011) but had to eventually spend time and money trying to get 345+ at Aurangbad (Jul 2012). In this period there was only one opportunity (Capt EZ 2012) which I missed out due to details already discussed in this thread.

Anyway the point is you still have a few weeks (MAWC on Oct 14-16) to practice hard (as guruji mentioned 2 sessions/ day if you do it) with the APs available at the range and gain valuable experience, esp. wrt shooting in procedures, hot environs, timed shots etc. which will stand in good stead when your real time comes. So do not miss out on any opportunity that comes knocking, else you end up waiting. Of course, the gurus here (hvj1/ tirpassion/ brih/ dev/ jitu) and there (VS) ought to guide you better on this than my suggestion. Good Luck.
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by dev » Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:09 pm

hvj1 wrote:I say folks, it is my humble request that you stop calling VikramDutta as VD, Vikram please find yourself a suitable handle.
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by airgun_novice » Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:51 pm

dev wrote:
hvj1 wrote:I say folks, it is my humble request that you stop calling VikramDutta as VD, Vikram please find yourself a suitable handle.
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When guru gets shuru there is no stopping him . :lol:
+1 Hence addressed Vikram as Vikram Of course still trying to figure out guruji's cryptic "suitable handle" reference...;-) :cheers:

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by major » Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:52 pm

Hi Hvj Sir,
I have been following your pistol tips for
about a week now. And really they have
shown good results. I have started pistol
shooting some 25 days. I am working
therefore I get time to shoot live only on
Saturday and Sundays. Rest of the week, I
practice holding. Last week, after reading
your tips, I shot around. 340/400. I don't
have a pistol at home, so I practice holding
using a water jug in my hand. But I don't
know how to practice sight alignment with
that. I have marked a line with marker
which I try to align with the sixth ring at the
bottom of the target. Could you please tell
some techniques for me for sight alignment
fot me as I do not posess a pistol yet. I
plan to buy a steyr in 5-6 months.
Warm Regards,
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by hvj1 » Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:00 pm

Hello Major,
Did you say 340/400? In 25 days practice time ? That too on saturdays and sundays?
Please do get back to me with the feedback.
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by major » Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:36 pm

Hi hvj sir,

Yeah, you saw that right. Its 340/400 in 25 days practice. In these 25 days, I have practiced holding with the jug as said before , for one hour daily without fail. I started using your tips some 9-10 days back. I will be participating in the Haryana State championship in the coming week. Will keep you updated on that.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by tirpassion » Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:32 pm

Dear dev,
How was your outing in the Delhi State Championships? Please share your experiences with us!
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by dev » Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:06 pm

Oh darn it...mumble...mumble...can I avoid talking about it? :roll:
Well I had been thinking that I will shoot the black out and hit 370 this year. Cause at home I could put 40 odd shots inside the rifle target's black at six meters.
Began by going on Sat and registering for the first detail. All is good, just then range master comes and chucks me out for wearing jeans. I had forgotten this rule as I had decided to shoot the match and then head to work. So leaving my competitor's card and thinking I would shoot the next detail, I rushed home.
At home the voice of reason spoke and said that I could always shoot Sunday morning. So went of to work, asked a friend to keep the card with him.
On Sunday carted wife and baby to range and then got into another spin. The guy allotting the slots says that you have already shot the match. Cause unknown to me he had marked me for Saturday's second slot. To cut the story a bit, I got this sorted out and got the second detail.

Baby decides that she is gonna scream out to me whenever she doesn't see me. There is no language to hush up a nine month old. Wife looks very embarrassed and says you go shoot while I take her out for a spin. After twenty minutes my detail is called. Prep time gets boring as I had already done a few dry fires etc. When the sighter's start is when I get the first surprise...there is no record of the shot...eh what?? I shoot another one with the same result. I call the range officer to take a look. He takes a look and says shoot one, he then tells me that the pellet is hitting the lower frame. As I take in this he notices that the rear sight unit is floating around. We set the sight together. Next shot...10. So that is that and I shoot some fifteen sighters. All is well, mostly nines and an eight and a seven.

So I go for the record shots...first shot...6. For a while I thought that the monitor is showing inverted 9's. Anyway I cackle at my own pj and move to the next shot...5. Wee haw ! Try to recover with a few 8,9 and then a random 10. The first series is horrible, a darn 74. So I regroup and remember to shoot in three shot sequences. 10's and 9's return this series is a 91 set. Next set shoot a five in between two 9's, recover with a 10 and then shoot another 7. This one hits 85. Last set, I am determined not to rush. Three 10', 8, three 10', then the bloody 7 and a few good 9's and my day is over with another 89 or so.

Pack pistol, kiss referee and go to wife and shake hands with baby.
So go and get some lunch, by now wife needs to get baby home. Check 25m pistol range for detail and enter name somewhere. They tell me to be back fast. As they want to wind up by 4 pm and the best part was that I don't have a pistol to shoot SP with. Anyway I find old friend Amit Gupta who sweetly agrees to lend me his pistol. Thinking that I have things sewn up, I go to the car to give wife and baby ride till auto stand.

Some smart guy has parked his car behind me, I am stuck. Finally, smart guys assistant is turns up, he can't drive but he has the keys. In true saddi Delhi style I give him and ear full and drive the car near the where the langur is tied. I was hoping that the langur would have a bowel movement on the car.

Nee way see family off to an auto, get back in and rush to the range. Here I am told that standard pistol detail 2, has already begun. The flunkie in charge guides the attention of the range master to me as Mr.Wajid Ali give me a steely look I mutter about baby needing to go home etc. He melts and shoves me into the next detail.
Now, here is the brilliant part, I am shooting national rules which means I shoot only 30 cartridges straight and I get to go for the GVM...but I haven't shot a standard pistol for a year and by now I am feeling tired. So I decide that I will enjoy getting the chance of shooting a firearm.

When we load for the first series of sighters I am almost smirking,'Billy the Kid is ready'. And by golly if the first five shots didn't justify the smirk 3 10's and two 9's. And now as I loaf for score I look at the Delhi State head and renowned shot Rajiv on the lane next to mine. With a nod of the head I wish him luck. Heh...heh...he was gonna need it.
So first five shots for the 150 second or precision round, 7,7,6,8,9. Damn my group must have moved half an inch.
Next 150 second detail goes 10,8,9,7,5. ahhh getting better...nope the twenty second first detail I shoot some 7's, some 8's and 6's. On the second twenty second detail I manage a 10, 9, 8, X< X. Yup Billy the kid has two bullet left and the light has turned red...damn.
First 10 second detail, I am shooting so fast that my two shots sound like one. It is a straight line over the target. It begins from the five goes up to the three, leaving the ten and nine un-scarred. I am determined to shoot the next ten better. I align my pistol once while the ref is away, by raising it. Then the light turns green I shoot a 10, two 9', an 8 and a 7. Brilliant relay but Billy the Kid has left the building.

So that is what I went thru the lack of practice showed. But its not all darkness, last years score allows me to shoot the gvm in air. A friend whom I shall not name but am now un-friending on FB, picked up a free pistol for the first time and laughed his way to a silver medal and qualifications. Looks like Rajiv didn't need my luck he was as always in top form. The stuff marked in red are all the mistakes.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by Olly » Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:31 pm

Nice writeup...
:D

tirpassion wrote: A friend whom I shall not name but am now un-friending on FB, picked up a free pistol for the first time and laughed his way to a silver medal and qualifications.
And, you can name that friend whom you with to unfriend on FB.... :twisted:

Guess you forgot to mention that the same friend offered you his pants to change into, when that 'tall' Range Officer asked you 'OUT'... ! :lol:

Anyways, the GVM is not very far... so cheer up... !

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