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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by tirpassion » Sat May 26, 2012 5:10 pm

Dear agn,
it was a good move not to count the score. Please write down the match analysis. We will discuss it next week. I will be out of internet reach for the next 2 days.
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by jitu sati » Tue May 29, 2012 10:20 pm

hey agn
it was pretty brave to continue after shooting a zero. takes a lot of courage to do that. just lage raho bhai
hey tirpassion
going a bit slow on taking a live shoot. running short on pellets. so just continuing the SA and fig 8s.trying to get the pellets. will take a live shoot only then.till then just tech ex. as it is wifey not keeping well. so need to concentrate on that first. will let u know the progress of the 8 elimination . till then will be able to report only the SA%. hey dev how were the pellets. any report
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by dev » Wed May 30, 2012 11:05 am

Hi Jitu,

The pellets arrive in crushed tin, company assures me that they will replace the same. In the meantime the desire to try a few drives me nuts. So I shot some 40 odd pellets on Sunday, not withstanding the crushed tin all shot well. Managed to shoot pretty okay. The pellets feel good and I think my Steyr likes them. I got one new tin sent to me by the company and the deal is if I want another one I should ship one back. I think I will just hang on to them for more testing, have to just sort out the few which may have damaged skirts. The pellet is surprisingly a grain or so heavier than the Master Kueglen but my pistol anyway is pumped to shoot heavier stuff. And so after a few clicks center mass was the norm. Shot 4 sevens in forty shots and I know why and how I shot them, all were due to an over hold and then snatching at the trigger. So the pellets are kosher, go ahead and get some.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by tirpassion » Wed May 30, 2012 1:16 pm

Shot 4 sevens in forty shots and I know why and how I shot them, all were due to an over hold and then snatching at the trigger.
Very important point noted by dev.

One should not hold for long when inside the aiming zone. It is not so important to look for the perfect zone and force the shot to break there. One should accept the movement of the hand (the arcs) but keeping the perfect SA image is the most important factor. I insist on the exercise of the sketch of the SA on a comp target. This will help you to understand your arcs and have more confidence in your natural hand movement.

The shot must break within 3 to 5 secs after you have settled down in your zone. Otherwise abort immediately.
If you are holding for long, be sure to lay a big shit on the target.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by tirpassion » Wed May 30, 2012 1:21 pm

Dear jitu,
Daal/roti and parivar are priorities in life. Everything comes later.
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by dev » Wed May 30, 2012 2:37 pm

tirpassion wrote:
Shot 4 sevens in forty shots and I know why and how I shot them, all were due to an over hold and then snatching at the trigger.
Very important point noted by dev.

One should not hold for long when inside the aiming zone. It is not so important to look for the perfect zone and force the shot to break there. One should accept the movement of the hand (the arcs) but keeping the perfect SA image is the most important factor. I insist on the exercise of the sketch of the SA on a comp target. This will help you to understand your arcs and have more confidence in your natural hand movement.

The shot must break within 3 to 5 secs after you have settled down in your zone. Otherwise abort immediately.
If you are holding for long, be sure to lay a big shit on the target.

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Hi Tir,

Apologies for not being able to participate more, was actually determined to draw the sight picture but couldn't do so. Will try to squeeze some time in the next few days. The fact is that even Jaspal Rana once showed me how the arc of movement didn't matter much, it didn't really have to be perfectly still. He kept plotting where the shot would land by creating a sight with his fingers and moving it over the sub six area. I had been overdoing the stay as I thought the holding exercises that I was performing was making it doable.

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P.S. Over holding really makes one eat humble pie .
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by tirpassion » Wed May 30, 2012 2:54 pm

He kept plotting where the shot would land by creating a sight with his fingers and moving it over the sub six area.
That is exactly where I would zero in once the sight picture is drawn. I am happy to know that my thoughts are confirmed by the great Jaspal Rana :D .

Dear dev,
I can assure you that if your basics are correct, you will always score a respectable score even if you are not practicing a lot. That is the case of your friend Olly.
Master the perfect SA and the perfect trigger timing. You have done it.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by jitu sati » Wed May 30, 2012 5:03 pm

hey dev
how does one order the pellets. pl advise with details
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by airgun_novice » Thu May 31, 2012 9:57 am

Guys, Sorry to let you down.
Lakshyavedh -> Poor Performance. Practically ashamed to put it here. 324/400. :-( :oops:
Adding the sets: 74, 90, 82, 78
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by dev » Thu May 31, 2012 10:23 am

jitu sati wrote:hey dev
how does one order the pellets. pl advise with details
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Hi Jitu,

I am not sure whether outlining the process here is doing free advertising. So I am messaging you the 'how to' :) .

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by dev » Thu May 31, 2012 10:41 am

airgun_novice wrote:Guys, Sorry to let you down.
Lakshyavedh -> Poor Performance. Practically ashamed to put it here. 324/400. :-( :oops:
I have read your match post mortem and can only sympathise with you. However having said that I can't understand why you would shoot air rifle if your main event is air pistol.
Secondly, never go to battle with an unproven arm, I have been in the dumps enough times to know this.
Thirdly, prepare for every match from a month or so away...not just the shooting part but kit...pellets etc.
Whenever I have shot well, it has been also due to having had the time to gather a steely resolve.
If my pellets, pistol etc...are not right I am already beaten mentally.
As far as range noise goes never tolerate it, I have gone up to the range referee when a baboon from the cow-belt insisted on keeping on with his loud comments. This also messed up a few points though but I has managed to shoot 365/400 already for the GVM, the score could have been about ten points better had I had the wisdom to ignore the baboon and realise that my shots were going one ring to the right.

After talking with HVJ1 on the North Zone disaster, he taught me one important thing-don't get into a match unless one has trained enough. It is like fighting with one hand tied. So dear AGN yeh point note kare :) bena tayari match shoot karne ka kasht na lay. Please understand that I say this with utmost affection towards you. Your match analysis has revealed several things. Just to kindly avoid repeating them. Apologies for the bhashan aaj mood ban gaya. ROTFL

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by airgun_novice » Thu May 31, 2012 12:16 pm

dev-wani satya-wani :-)

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by tirpassion » Thu May 31, 2012 1:12 pm

Dear agn,
I agree with dev entirely. You should be prepared for the match with your self and with your machine.

You are working with a complex machine (your AP). The first thing is to know your machine thoroughly and to have 100% confidence in it's functioning. Why? It is a way of eliminating ONE CAUSE / ONE PRETEXT / ONE EXCUSE (I leave you with the choice from the 3 options) definitely.
The easiest way to build confidence on the AP is to shoot on support. There is no shame in shooting on a support and moreover being seated on a chair. You can find out for sure how the AP behaves, adjust it according to your convenience, find out which pellets go down with the barrel well etc. etc. and most importantly, build confidence in your SA image (on support it moves less and you are more comfortable /confident to see it properly)

Secondly, your mental preparation should be like: 'Capt EZEKIEL date is too far away, I want to go now, at once because I am ready, always'.
For that, you need to give yourself some serious time. The physical fitness/endurance is something which will give you this kind of mental boost.

We will have a talk today. Keep your moral high :) !

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by jitu sati » Thu May 31, 2012 1:15 pm

hey agn
i have done this before so i can only sympathise but mind you no more excusing ourselves. we just need to prepare and work harder
hey dev, how long do they take to deliver those pellets
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by airgun_novice » Thu May 31, 2012 1:27 pm

Dear All, dhanyawad. Definitely a tonic from y'all.
Dear tirpassion, can we have that talk tomorrow instead ? Tonight will be a bit late returning. Being "Bharat bandh" et al, visiting a friend tonight instead of in the afternoon.

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