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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by dev » Sat May 19, 2012 12:08 pm

Hi Jitu,

Was out yesterday when the courier guy reached. Hopefully will have them today and be able to see if they shoot well.


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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by tirpassion » Sat May 19, 2012 2:02 pm

Dear jitu,

If you have shot ONE 7, you will have to go back to the drill again because the goal is ELIMINATION of 7 and you have not achieved it 100%. Please go for another drill and shoot 40 shots. You must eliminate the 7 before going for the Eights :) . Do not let your mind tolerate a single error.. ZERO TOLERANCE
Please remember that the Men's AP match is of 60 shots and we must achieve 100% in 60 shots some day, whatever be the drill.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by dev » Mon May 21, 2012 12:02 pm

Got the pellets. I am very disappointed at the way the tins are. They look old and as if put thru a nuclear reactor or a tornado. Naturally a load of pellet skirts were damaged. Don't know how they can even sell the packets, that also almost Rs.120 more than what the state shooting clubs sell them for. I am torn between asking for a refund or blaming it on Karma and moving on.

Update: Just had a word with Ballistol India, they claim that two orders were filled by the marketing staff before the supervisor could inspect them. The person has apologised for the same and said that the pellets should be okay. I will take a closer look today and try some out. I am still willing to give them a fair chance and if the pellets perform well, then I will order a sleeve or so.
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by airgun_novice » Mon May 21, 2012 1:30 pm

Ah ! Awaiting Ballistol bluing agent since it landed in Mumbai on May 16th! :-( Wonder what's holding them up.

Edited on May 26, 2012: Received my bottle last week Thanks to Bhavna for reminding me about updating on IFG. :-)
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by jitu sati » Wed May 23, 2012 9:02 am

u were right tirpassion
i should have first got 100%in the 7 elimination. i instead went for the 8 elimination and the result was pathetic. i ended up hitting 10 8s. that is more than 3 in each set. i was pretty upset. unfortunately i saw ur post after my elimination shoot. so back to the 7 elimination. i need to do it 100% atleast 3/4 times before i proceed
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by dev » Wed May 23, 2012 11:35 am

8's are your friend and you can reach a good score with a few 8's even. It is the 7 or lower which can really mess the game up. Great that one can eliminate 7's the moment one can do the 8 elimination, one shan't be talking to anyone on this board ;-). I will also get two people to carry me around on a shield.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by tirpassion » Wed May 23, 2012 1:29 pm

Dear dev, jitu, agn & all,

Our mental framework should be to a level so as not to consider the 8's as friends. If we are complacent with the 8's, they will follow and before long we will find ourselves drowned in a bad score flooded with 8's. The moment we are intolerant with it, we will check, recheck, verify, analyze why the 8 came and will do everything not to reproduce the same error. That way we will be able to control and limit the 8s.
For that, we need to proceed gradually. 7 is the enemy in priority. Destroy it. Then go to for the 8's with the same vengeance and aggression. A bit of aggression is necessary to fight with our own self. In a softer note this aggression can also be interpreted as Determination.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by tirpassion » Wed May 23, 2012 1:51 pm

Dear jitu, dev, agn and all,

I would request you to do a simple exercise. I will tell you later on what it is meant for :) .

- You need to either go to the range because you have 10m in front of you or use reduced proportionate target placed at 140cm height. 6cm black circle dia for 10m. So 6mm for 1m; 12mm for 2m, 18mm for 3m, 24mm for 4m and so on...
- Please draw your SA image (the sleeping E) on a normal Comp target (just below the black circle) as you see it on your sub-six zone when you are holding your AP in stance, ready to shoot live. Do not draw it after checking physically, do it from your memory. The sketch should be on the zone where you will surely get a perfect 10.
- Now lift the AP, aim on the target (be it full size in the range or reduced at home) and check physically if you have drawn (out of memory) correctly (the proportions of the image wrt to the black circle).
- Correct it immediately if you have done it wrongly. Take your time. This is not a wastage of time.
- Take a photo of the corrected image and send it to me

We will carry on from then onwards.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by tirpassion » Wed May 23, 2012 2:01 pm

so back to the 7 elimination. i need to do it 100% atleast 3/4 times before i proceed
Once is more than enough jitu. You must not linger on the 7 for long. It is easy to eliminate, tell it to yourself. Be demanding with yourself and go for the 7 elimination drill with the mental framework of eliminating the 8. Prepare to eliminate the 8's, be determined. You will achieve it (the elimination of 7) in one go. You have already done it. Right?

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by jitu sati » Thu May 24, 2012 8:54 am

ok. will will try the eliminate the 7 drill today. will let u know the results tomorrow

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by jitu sati » Fri May 25, 2012 9:59 am

tirpassion
did the 7 elimination drill yesterday. i dont know how the shoot would have gone if it was scored. but thankfully no sevens. so should i try the 8 elimination now?
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by tirpassion » Fri May 25, 2012 3:38 pm

You have done it jitu! Great!
Now write down in your diary with generous words that you have eliminated the 7's and how you did it. The key is following carefully and meticulously each and every step of your SOA. Chanting the Mantra...
Yes, you should go for the 8's now. If we are intolerant with 8's, we will be able to limit them. Our goal is to limit them at our level. If you shoot a 8, you should stop and analyze what went wrong. Then, you should do everything not to repeat the error.
Your SOA is the ideal condition to score a 10. But being human beings, we commit errors. So, our aim is to limit them.

Be demanding with yourself, be determined and be confident in your abilities.

Please do the drawing exercise? It is important.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by jitu sati » Sat May 26, 2012 10:01 am

thx tirpassion
did my elimination eights drill. not something to write home about. improved from the last time and came from 10 8s to 6 eights but one 7 too.need to concentrate more
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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by airgun_novice » Sat May 26, 2012 12:33 pm

Back from Lakshyavedh. Not much to boast/ roost on. Hit mostly #9s and about 5 #10s and 3 #7s. But the very THIRD shot misfired due to a sneeze and nicked the card. I was about to abort the shot and then it happened and the hand got lifted and finger fired. ZERO :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: The next two shots went with I/ me/ myself scolding I/ me/ myself on how such a thing could happen and I managed to score two back-to-back #5s! Finally pulled myself up. Didn't bother to total towards the end. My guess ? Max of 340/400. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

OS was fun - first got disturbed by TV crew from Canada and the Director simply chose the lane next to mine to give interview and invite the fellows to try their hand at shooting. Plus of course there were two cameras with lens like howitzers - all this when record shots had started. But then AR OS ain't my prime event anyway - plus was shooting with an IHP N25 that was a lemon through and through. But it was tremendous challenge shooting at small cards where the bull's eye appeared more like Club of Cards. :-) Need to revisit the ophthalmologist to get a "number". My guess ? Max of 200/400. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Arre yaar, bad luck what? Move on, pat yourself for the shots well taken. Wish you had a better pistol.
This one seems to be tripping you up all the time.

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Re: Tips on Pistol Shooting

Post by tirpassion » Sat May 26, 2012 5:07 pm

Dear Jitu,
keep on doing the good work. It does not matter much if you know why you shot a 7 or a 8 and you have done everything to eliminate it. This determination to find and cure the root cause of errors will slowly make a better shooter out of you. I already see signs that you are becoming more and more demanding with yourself based on your abilities. Yes, you should be confident of your abilities and be demanding accordingly for optimal functioning of your abilities.
For your information, i have done also a 60 shot drill on last Monday. Shot 8/8's :x .

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