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Hi Friends,

First my special thanks to IFG handle mundaire aka. Abhijeet for publishing a wonderful how to document called "Applying for an Arms License in India" in this url http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=504 .

I'm planning to apply for Arms License to procure a NPB IOF Pistol or Revolver of .32cal, after going through many of the points mentioned in the forum about the weapon I dicided to stick with IOF. Now I'm filling the application and need your help in getting some clarification on the following points, please see that I've downloaded the Arms License application form from Tamilnadu Govt. website in this url: http://www.tnpolice.gov.in/forms/armsfreshapp.pdf


If you can go through and advise me what to fill up on this points, It will be of great help(Some of my questions looks silly but I wanted to be extra cautious to avoid any reasons for the application get rejected).

Part - A

1. Date of Birth in Words - Can some one let me know what format we should write the date of birth while writting it in 27 boxes computer sheet.

2. Address: My native is Tiruvannamalai and Living in Chennai for the past 15 years(I have address proof for both the places). However I have visited/stayed in Bangalore, Atlanta(USA), Singapore, Tokyo(Japan) during the past 15 years. Now I'm interested in applying my license at my hometown as I feel the chances of getting a license in semi-urban towns are higher. Writting present address as Chennai and Permanent address as Tiruvannamalai will lead me compulsory application submission to Chennai or I can still submit it in Tiruvannamalai itself ?

Part - B

3. On the Form - A, under point no.11 - "b) has a safe place to keep the arms: yes/no", if I say yes, I need to provide desciption about saying yes. What is the valid / legally acceptable answer for this question? Should I say in a locker at home

4. Also What should I fill for the type of Weapon required? I'm planning to source on (NPB)IOF Pistol/Revolver .32 caliber. But the form got provision for Pistol and Revolver separately and also got a blank space infront of the question itself. There is a column for others too.

5. I'm going to write Need for weapon as "Self protection", however where should be provide more information and support details to claim this ?

Part - C

1. What is Description of Arms ammunition? I'm asking this question after filling up the details as I asked above in the 4th point.

2. Place where arm ammunition will be kept/mfgd? I don't think I mfgd the weapon., why is this question ?

Thanks & Regards

1. Date of Birth in Words - Can some one let me know what format we should write the date of birth while writting it in 27 boxes computer sheet.

If your DOB does not fit in the boxes keep it empty, ask from someone in office of Licensing Authourity.

2. Address: My native is Tiruvannamalai and Living in Chennai for the past 15 years(I have address proof for both the places). However I have visited/stayed in Bangalore, Atlanta(USA), Singapore, Tokyo(Japan) during the past 15 years. Now I'm interested in applying my license at my hometown as I feel the chances of getting a license in semi-urban towns are higher. Writting present address as Chennai and Permanent address as Tiruvannamalai will lead me compulsory application submission to Chennai or I can still submit it in Tiruvannamalai itself ?

There is no need for you to mention or worry about were you have been or traveled in the world. It would be good if you keep matters simple. If you mention any one address at the moment for which you have the address proof, all related documents, neighbors can tell the policeman that you reside there if he comes for any enquiry and also if needed you can visit and contact that policeman. You can have X as permanent address today, Y as permanent address tomorrow. AFAIK there is no law that bars you from changing your permanent or temporary address anytime. Once you get the license, if you decide to change any of your addresses changed, you can get them changed later on.

3. On the Form - A, under point no.11 - "b) has a safe place to keep the arms: yes/no", if I say yes, I need to provide desciption about saying yes. What is the valid / legally acceptable answer for this question? Should I say in a locker at home

Almirah, safe, locker etc. whatever you have at the address mentioned in application by you. The purpose is to ensure nobody like thief etc. can easily take firearm away.

4. Also What should I fill for the type of Weapon required? I'm planning to source on (NPB)IOF Pistol/Revolver .32 caliber. But the form got provision for Pistol and Revolver separately and also got a blank space infront of the question itself. There is a column for others too.

NPB Pistol/Revolver.(this would mean any NPB bore pistol or revolver of any manufacturer)You can tick both pistol/revolver.

5. I'm going to write Need for weapon as "Self protection", however where should be provide more information and support details to claim this ?

"Self Protection" is more than sufficient reason. You do not need to support it, since need for self protection can arise for anybody from anybody, anytime, anyplace. It is just like accident, it can happen without any prior warning or forecast.

1. What is Description of Arms ammunition? I'm asking this question after filling up the details as I asked above in the 4th point.

NPB pistol/revolver. How can you know anything more about description without purchasing the same? Once you are granted license, you will purchase any NPB pistol/revolver after satisfying yourself about its workings/quality etc. and price at the shop.

2. Place where arm ammunition will be kept/mfgd? I don't think I mfgd the weapon., why is this question ?

Will be kept in almirah, safe, locker etc. whatever you have at the address mentioned in application by you.

goodboy_mentor, Thanks for the information provided.

I was asking about the description as I read somewhere in the forum that I need to provide more details to prove my claim for self-protection.

Also I'm only applying the license in my home town (Tiruvannmalai) and I work in Chennai. Hence I will be touching atleast 4 district on my every weekend travel to the farm. So, I need a state level (Tamilnadu) license.

I have another question regarding the Arm License, what will happen to the license and where to keep the weapon when you visit abroad for more than 6 months or lesser than an year ?

trammway wrote:
I have another question regarding the Arm License, what will happen to the license and where to keep the weapon when you visit abroad for more than 6 months or lesser than an year ?

in a safe place, (do not ever disclose where you keep your arms) if you have family staying in your home while you are away is good. licence should be kept at home,(safe place) with a letter of authority in case police etc call for arms verification while you are away.

if possible do not leave arms with police/dealers etc, as parts could go missing.

I remember reading somewhere I need to notify the issuing authority if I relocate to any place for more than 30days in consecutive manner. Which means going out of India for more than a month also a relocation ?

Leaving the weapon at Bank Locker is legal ? is it allowed practice ?

trammway wrote:I remember reading somewhere I need to notify the issuing authority if I relocate to any place for more than 30days in consecutive manner. Which means going out of India for more than a month also a relocation ?

Leaving the weapon at Bank Locker is legal ? is it allowed practice ?

it means (i think) relocating with your arms. you are suppose to go to the nearest police sta, within 48h.

I was asking about the description as I read somewhere in the forum that I need to provide more details to prove my claim for self-protection.

Please read the following and see if it answers your question: http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php ... &start=220 and http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php ... 1&start=18

Also I'm only applying the license in my home town (Tiruvannmalai) and I work in Chennai. Hence I will be touching atleast 4 district on my every weekend travel to the farm. So, I need a state level (Tamilnadu) license.

Yes it appears to make sense, providing 2 different addresses across 4 districts should make it easier for you to claim a state level license straight away. But personally I am not sure what is the "requirement" or "procedure" to get a state level license. You may get confirmed from someone who has got a state level license or some lawyer familiar with this part of the procedure.

nagarifle wrote:

trammway wrote:I remember reading somewhere I need to notify the issuing authority if I relocate to any place for more than 30days in consecutive manner. Which means going out of India for more than a month also a relocation ?

Leaving the weapon at Bank Locker is legal ? is it allowed practice ?

it means (i think) relocating with your arms. you are suppose to go to the nearest police sta, within 48h.

Nope, my question is not that. I'm going to keep my local address unchanged, but I visit abroad on a work demand. It may be a month or close to an year. In that case I will be away from my registered license address for more than a month time. As per the rule as read, one should notify the authority if he is staying in a different address for 30days or more. So my question of foreign travel comes.

Any clue on my question about keeping the weapon at the bank locker while you go abroad? is it legally allowed ?

Nope, my question is not that. I'm going to keep my local address unchanged, but I visit abroad on a work demand. It may be a month or close to an year.

There is a concept of "Retainer". Please read http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php ... 6[quote]As per the rule as read, one should notify the authority if he is staying in a different address for 30days or more.[/quote]It is applicable only if you are staying at an address not mentioned on your license along with the firearm.

Any clue on my question about keeping the weapon at the bank locker while you go abroad? is it legally allowed ?

No clue but AFAIK it should not be a problem, until it gets stolen from locker, or you loose the locker keys. But if I was in your place, I would not do that, since there is a legal option for keeping the firearm with "retainer" which also includes your family members. AFAIK the licensee has to give a signed "Letter of Authourity" on a piece of paper to the retainer.

Shooters,

I must update you all with my License process now

I have submitted my papers around 20 days back to Dt. Collector's office

After the collector's registrar logged the application into the book, he forwarded the same to Collector for his initial and the same returned to the clerk and he dispatched it to the postal department internally to forward the same to next level.

Last week I received a letter which is basically a carbon copy of what is been sent to SP office and RDO office, as per the letter the collector's office asking both this entity to verify conduct, character and criminal charges if any against me. (The entire communication is in Tamil language, do I need to insist when getting the license to issue in English? Is there any possibility to request them for the same?)

Looks like RDO will send the papers to Thasildar and SP office will forward it to Town Station for verification purposes.

In this scenario, where will my interview going to happen ? I read somewhere in the forum the applicant will be asked to present himself infront of police and RDO/Thasildar for interview.

I'm glad atleast the paper is moving until now.

Cool. good going..

While I was in my North East Vacation, I got a call from local town police station writer asking me if he can meet me regarding my Gun License application, I told him that I'm on vacation and will meet him on saturday and met him today.

The process in town police station is simple, he has already filled in a form and asked me to write a letter to Police inspector stating the reason for requesting gun license and also asked me to write if I'm going to use the gun for any hunting activity. In a few minutes I have completed my letter and process got over, he said he will forward the paper back to DSP office on monday.

I guess this is a mile stone in the whole process, I'm now waiting for Revenue department call.

By any chance some one of you please let me know if I will be asked to present for an interview in DSP/SP or any other police department ?

hi, have u got your license or still waiting.

please guide me also that can i try this. also let us know how much you have to spend for this license

i am form indore (MP)

Good Luck Brother

My license process is still ON, Both the police and revenue department given ok certificate. However the police report also describes about the land ownership that I got near a forest and it raised question with the security of animals in the wild.

I had to visit personally to declare that I'm not taking the license or the weapon for hunting purpose before I get my license issued. I have been asked to present physically but due to work I could not visit my home town for the past two months in working days. So the delay.

I'm very honest in giving this information, There is not a single penny involved in the licensing process and here in Tamilnadu all the stakeholders in issuing the license are turning clean and no corruption etc. I paid only the license chalan amount in treasury and nothing else.

trammway wrote:I'm very honest in giving this information, There is not a single penny involved in the licensing process and here in Tamilnadu all the stakeholders in issuing the license are turning clean and no corruption etc. I paid only the license chalan amount in treasury and nothing else.

Good for you.

Regards